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[TUF]Catbox wrote:

That is so incredibly fucked up... It almost looks like a funny hidden camera show... what a fucked up group of people...  The only hope for them are the young people that decide the ridiculous dress code and other nonsensical laws need to end...  Who the fuck do those nut bags think they are telling somebody how to dress... ?

That's how alien their culture is to us;
it is a hidden camera.

Taking open video of the Iranian police can be hazardous if you are in the media, deadly if you are a citizen.
http://www.hrw.org/press/2000/04/iran0425.htm

They're such backwards people, it's amazing how ignorant humans can be.

As long as they only repress and murder Iranians the libs will say its alright.


There seems to be a basic lack of understanding about right and wrong with them.

ATG wrote:

As long as they only repress and murder Iranians the libs will say its alright.


There seems to be a basic lack of understanding about right and wrong with them.

Hey they follow Sharia law Lots of things are Wrong which Logically should be Right. But you cant blame them they chose Islam as a way of controlling the populace and well you know what happens.

Spark wrote:

David.P wrote:

I wonder how the Libs will defend this? I mean fuck us hardliners have our dirty laundry for everyone to see and we've gotten used to the comments. But this this is something we all know and now that it's being hung out to dry in front of everyone i wonder what excuses we'll get?

I wonder why you always think we will defend us.

I think what you've done is you've created an image of a 'liberal' in your head, and your attacking the 'image'.

If you are talking about an Image based upon my own experiences with them then yes! I am attacking the Image.

But if you're talking about the General Attitude of Liberals defined by "Defending the people we are not friendly with" "Being to politically correct" "Calling Civil rights Leaders visionaries of Equality when they are just using reverse racism" Those are the Liberals i am really attacking.

Btw was my Image Spot on? Come on you can tell me! I promise i wont use it against you. I'm not a cop you know that.

CommieChipmunk wrote:

what the hell are you talking about?  Why would liberals have to defend this?

/confused?

CC, don't be rude, he's built a perfectly good strawman and now you're gonna bother him while he's beating it up?

Of course we could always ask what Iran might be like right now if not for Operation Ajax, but that would probably also be rude.

has the US sorted out juvenile executions yet? http://www.amnestyusa.org/abolish/juveniles.html

although I don't agree with any of the things Iran do, we have to remember different country's have different rules/laws

If we break the law in the UK, US or anywhere else and get caught, we will be punished, why should we expect Iran to be any different

before we can even think about a war shouldn't we at least see how the average Iranian lives

BBC Documentary on Iran
[google]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=554201962695917482[/google]

USA holidaymakers in Iran 2004
[google]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1261997276278762399[/google]


Channel 4 did a 9 program series called the Iraq Commission
what surprised me was the attitude of the *cough* experts when talking about Iran
Sir Christopher Meyer - British Ambassador to the United States (1997–2003) from 27mins in his Video

anyway If you are at all interested in anything to do with the middle east shitpile I would recommend watching most of the Videos
the only video not on the website was David Horowitz but it was shit anyway.

also

Iran Proposal to U.S. Offered Peace with Israel
by Gareth Porter
 
WASHINGTON - Iran offered in 2003 to accept peace with Israel and to cut off material assistance to Palestinian armed groups and pressure them to halt terrorist attacks within Israel's 1967 borders, according to the secret Iranian proposal to the United States. The two-page proposal for a broad Iran-U.S. agreement covering all the issues separating the two countries, a copy of which was obtained by IPS, was conveyed to the United States in late April or early May 2003. Trita Parsi, a specialist on Iranian foreign policy at Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies who provided the document to IPS, says he got it from an Iranian official earlier this year but is not at liberty to reveal the source.

The two-page document contradicts the official line of the George W. Bush administration that Iran is committed to the destruction of Israel and the sponsorship of terrorism in the region.

why wasn't this offer taken further?

I'm trying to figure out why they're pissed off at Iran for this.  They're executing homos and cheaters.  The "hair police" generally just let you off with a citation and small fine.

Apparently the only justified killing of a cheating wife is your own, and the only authorized gay bashing is when your redneck buddies do it.

As far as defense of slave labor, take a look at which party has been supporting it for the last 6 years and come back with some facts.  Give ya a hint, it ain't the libruls.

None of our business. Why they should be militarily threatened while North Korea gets diplomacy is beyond me and smacks of rather obvious ulterior motives. Israeli security and oil. If you keep dicking around in the middle east then it'll bite you in the ass bigtime in the long run. Imagine a world with the oil supply of Iran, Iraq AND Saudi Arabia incapacitated: that's the kind of shit this dicking around might lead to.

In Ireland abortion is illegal and is considered murder. In other countries it's no worse than taking a shit. Different strokes for different folks.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-07-25 02:33:47)

CameronPoe wrote:

None of our business. Why they should be militarily threatened while North Korea gets diplomacy is beyond me and smacks of rather obvious ulterior motives. Israeli security and oil. If you keep dicking around in the middle east then it'll bite you in the ass bigtime in the long run. Imagine a world with the oil supply of Iran, Iraq AND Saudi Arabia incapacitated: that's the kind of shit this dicking around might lead to.

In Ireland abortion is illegal and is considered murder. In other countries it's no worse than taking a shit. Different strokes for different folks.

Umm....maybe North Korea is getting diplomacy because it is finally doing what the INTERNATIONAL community has asked for? Mainly shutting down its nuclear tech and getting it verified by INTERNATIONAL monitors. 

What is Iran doing? Threatening Israel (whether it be ambiguous or not, still threatening), continuing its enrichment in the face of INTERNATIONAL condemnation and now selling nuclear and chemical weapons technology to Syria in exchange for a promise to not have peace with Israel. The problem is that you can't have it both ways. You cry about the Palestinian people being oppressed by Israel and how horrid it is, even comparing Israel to the Nazi occupation of WW2. But when people are being oppressed within a country border...its "none of our business"?????????WTF you smoking.

Oppression is oppression no matter if it's within a country's border or not. It is ignorant to separate the two and say "oh well" to one and make post after post against another? That my friend is two faced to fit what you want to believe. So recently, when two teenage boys, 17 and 19, were hung in Iran for being............gay............your attitude is that it's nobody's business....BULLSHIT! If you are going to post as much as you do about the oppression of Palestinians, then how are the lives of two young men rather meaningless to you.

I have been on these forums for a relatively short time but I have noticed that when someone brings up something legitimate that you don't agree with, you usually respond in a very "who cares" attitude. But, OMG, everyone is an idiot if they don't get upset about the things you are upset about. This is what pisses me off, people who basically see only one side and only fight for wrongs they attach themselves to, instead of seeing the bigger picture and condemning every injustice where it lives and breathes.

It is totally ignorant, uncaring and obnoxious to just say "oh well" let them deal with it. If the world took that attitude of "sitting on hands" because its none of the world's business what happens within a country's border then you, my friend, and every other European would be a German Nazi. If people stood by and did nothing in Bosnia...the Muslim population would have been wiped out. We have learned lessons, hopefully, by seeing what happens when the international community sits still and does nothing...does Rwanda ring a bell. Does Pol Pot and Cambodia ring a bell? It is a joke to say for even one moment that the actions ATG has put forth here is acceptable to you....BULLSHIT!

Whether its the oppression of the Palestinians or regular people within Iran...wrong is wrong....and to sit back and not condemn one or the other is a serious character flaw. Actually, this attitude towards one type of human pain and the lack of passion for another type of human pain disturbs me. Very two faced in my book. Actually...you should take your own advice. Since the Palestinian issue has NOTHING to do with Ireland, then it is NONE of your business. So shut up and only speak up when the Irish are oppressed. Otherwise your "none of our business" philosophy doesn't hold any weight. You are not Palestinian, you are not Israeli, you do not live there and since the oppression of the Palestinian people doesn't happen within the Irish borders, then it's "none of your business" So going by your logic....STFU!!!!

Last edited by DeathBecomesYu (2007-07-25 05:18:48)

DeathBecomesYu wrote:

Umm....maybe North Korea is getting diplomacy because it is finally doing what the INTERNATIONAL community has asked for? Mainly shutting down its nuclear tech and getting it verified by INTERNATIONAL monitors.

After they launched experimental weapons.

sergeriver wrote:

I agree with ATG this time.  Iran is executing kids?  That's way over the limit IMO.  And they call themselves a democracy?

Whether they execute children has nothing to do with whether they're a democracy.

Further, on of the reasons they can get away with it is the convention on child's rights lacks a key signature.  Whose?  The US'.  Why?  The US won't sign away their right to execute minors for crimes.

I also feel it should be pointed out that in terms of requiring dress codes and the like, Saudi Arabia is far worse.  Yet, strangely, ATG has yet to make a thread about that.

Lol, gotta love the ignorance of people like ATG attributing this to Islam. What the governments of most countries in the Middle East do has nothing to do with Islam. As much as what Bush, Blair or in the past Hitler did had anything to do with Christianity. Its just a government which is supported by the majority of the people there after the terrorist rule of the Shah which the US installed. This is just a backlash of that.