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WWIII then?

ATG i bet you're a blast at parties...

Last edited by SuperSlowYo (2007-07-09 20:05:06)

elstonieo wrote:

ATG wrote:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8Q97U100&show_article=1

Paybacks are a bitch.

http://www.analogartsensemble.net/blog/2087.jpg

Please explain how I've got this totally wrong.

What the Fuck has Turkey and the Kurds got to do with 911 and Payback?

If you dont get what ATG was saying, then don't reply...it makes you look stupid.

DeathBecomesYu wrote:

If you dont get what ATG was saying, then don't reply...it makes you look stupid.

No not asking Questions and assuming I know the answers makes me look stupid

i asked a question you assumed

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

tthf wrote:

WWIII then?

Not really. USA leaves. Turkey, Iran, and Saudi Arabia fight it out.

and some jerkoff will bomb israel to win over the neutral arabs, forcing the EU and US to (re)enter the war followed by Russia...
WWIII

LOL..

16 years.... many many many long deployments to some of the crappiest places on the planet... Air Force combat search and rescue unit.

did i mention many long deployments to the assholes of the earth.. places that make some time at Taji seem downright civilized.

i heard, if Turkey is gonna go into north Iraq, the Kurds are gonna get the shit kicked out of them, last time turkey went into Iraq, they lost a hundred soldiers but took 3000 kurds into the ground with them. before that in 95 around 60 turkish soldiers died, and about 200-300 Kurds died. Turkey IS a modern muslim army which is a force to be reckoned with. i saw a pic of their special forces on yahoo...they looked so mean

http://www.nato.int/shape/graphics/2005 … 51012a.jpg

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

agwood wrote:

Whatever happens the Turks will have their hands full with the Kurds up north.

The ONLY reason the Turks have massed these troops is their hatred of the Kurds and the fear that they will try to create a free Kurdistan should the Iraqi Gov. fall or become unstable, which would encompass part of eastern Turkey.

I am sad that I will have true friends on both (Turkish and Kurdish Iraqi) sides.

If the Turks do decide to "keep the peace" as they will call it in northern Iraq, the US military will have the obligation to help defend the sovereign nation of Iraq. and I don't know if the Turks brought that many body bags.

I tell you from experience that Kurdish Iraqi Peshmerga and US Military would together roll over the Turk armies coming out of Sirnak and surrounding areas.

how the hell you get so many ribbons?

He's very leet at LF2 (Lifefield 2)

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

agwood wrote:

Whatever happens the Turks will have their hands full with the Kurds up north.

The ONLY reason the Turks have massed these troops is their hatred of the Kurds and the fear that they will try to create a free Kurdistan should the Iraqi Gov. fall or become unstable, which would encompass part of eastern Turkey.

I am sad that I will have true friends on both (Turkish and Kurdish Iraqi) sides.

If the Turks do decide to "keep the peace" as they will call it in northern Iraq, the US military will have the obligation to help defend the sovereign nation of Iraq. and I don't know if the Turks brought that many body bags.

I tell you from experience that Kurdish Iraqi Peshmerga and US Military would together roll over the Turk armies coming out of Sirnak and surrounding areas.

how the hell you get so many ribbons?

America has about 150 000 + troops in Iraq, their morale is constantly under attack by IED and suicide bombers, Turkey has massed 140000 troops on the border so that they could defend themselves from the KPP attacks in Turkey (TERRORISM!), if the US army will stand in Turkey's way would be fighting with the same passion the US fought post 9/11 in Afghanistan, to rid themselves of terrorists, they are supporting TERRORISM! which would prove them as hipocrits, so in my opinion they will not touch Turkey's business with the Kurds, and the Peshmerga would get steamrolled under the might of the Turks....97, turks invaded Iraq north, lost 100 soldiers killed 3000 enemy combatants...if your thinking the Peshmerga would fight better after US training, look at the Iraqi Forces and you will see the result.

CDK3Y wrote:

i heard, if Turkey is gonna go into north Iraq, the Kurds are gonna get the shit kicked out of them, last time turkey went into Iraq, they lost a hundred soldiers but took 3000 kurds into the ground with them. before that in 95 around 60 turkish soldiers died, and about 200-300 Kurds died. Turkey IS a modern muslim army which is a force to be reckoned with. i saw a pic of their special forces on yahoo...they looked so mean

http://www.nato.int/shape/graphics/2005 … 51012a.jpg

I would rather see those guys than these


http://www.militarypictures.info/d/379-2/USN_Seals.jpg

TURKISH ARMY
Main battle tanks
298 Leopard 2A4
77 Leopard 1A3T1/TU120
150 Leopard 1A3T1
166 Leopard 1A1A4 (under Volkan Tank Improvement Project)[3]
170 M60T (under Sabra Tank Modernization Project)[4]
650 M60A3 TTS
105 M60A1 RISE Passive
750 M 48A5T2 (Upgraded to M 60A3 Standard)
600 M 48A5T1 (Upgraded to M 60A1 Standard)
100 M 48T5 (Upgraded to M 60A1 Standard)
Armored personnel carriers
650 FNSS Armored infantry fighting vehicle (AIFV)
1375 FNSS Advanced armored personnel carrier (AAPC)
48 FNSS Armored TOW vehicle (ATV)
170 FNSS Armored mortar vehicle (AMV) (self-propelled 81 mm mortar)
2815 M 113 A1/A2/A3 Armored Personel Carrier
10+ M 125A (self-propelled M-29 81mm mortar)
175 M 106A (self-propelled M-30 107mm mortar)
150 M 113 TOW
260+ Otokar Akrep (4x4)[5]
388+ Otokar Cobra (4x4)[6][7]
240 BTR-80 (8x8)
50+ FNSS Pars (8x8)[8]
Helicopters
21 Sikorsky S-70A28 Blackhawk (13 will undergo Aselsan avionics upgrade, 8 SOF)
52 Sikorsky S-70D28 Blackhawk (5 SAR, 2 SOF CSAR, 4 ambulance, 41 utility)
28 Eurocopter AS-532UL Cougar Mk1 (4 SAR, 4 ambulance, 16 utility, 4 VIP)
28 Bell AB206B3 JetRanger
23 Agusta Bell AB205AT/2020
27 Agusta Bell AB205A1
52 Bell UH-1H/2020-ASAM
20 Bell UH-1D
42 Bell UH-1H Iroquois (24 for training)
Attack helicopters
0 Agusta Westland T129 (a total of 50 (+ 41 optional) will be produced in Turkey)[9][10][11]
9 Bell AH-1W Super Cobra
32 Bell AH-1P/S Cobra
1 Bell TAH-1P Cobra (Combat Trainer)
Air-to-ground missiles
215 Hellfire II K2 (Used in the AH-1W Super Cobra helicopters)
n/a TOW II (Used in the AH-1S/P Cobra helicopters)
Anti-aircraft missiles
n/a Atılgan KMS (1x8 FIM-92B/C Stinger)
n/a Zıpkın KMS (1x4 FIM-92 Stinger)
800+ FIM 92B/C Stinger RPM (4875 missiles)
785+ FIM-43A Redeye
40 9M39 Igla (SA-18 Grouse)
Anti-tank missiles
390+ MILAN With MIRA thermal sights
365 BGM-71 TOW I/II/A/B
40000+ M72 A2 LAW (66mm)
5000+ RPG-7 (40mm)
550 ERYX (1200 missiles)
70 9M113M Konkurs (AT5 Spandrel) (420 missiles)
185 Cobra (Used for training purposes only)
Anti-aircraft guns
300 L/70 & L/70T Bofors (40mm) (50 with Officine Galileo P56 optical sight)
600+ L/60 & M1A1 Bofors (40mm)
100+ Oerlikon GDF-001 (2x35mm)
120 Oerlikon GDF-003 (2x35mm)
440 Oerlikon GAI-D01 (2x20mm)
300+ Rheinmetall Mk.20 Rh202 (2x20mm)
110 M42 Duster (2x40mm)
900 M55 (4x12.7mm)
Rocket artillery
5 TR-300 Kasırga WS-1A (4x302mm, 80km)
25 TR-300 Kasırga WS-1B (4x302mm, 180km)
72 ATACMS MGM 140 Block I (165km)
12 M-270 MLRS (12x227mm PARS SAGE-227F, 70km)
50+ T-122 MLRS (40x122mm, 40km)
48 TR-107 MLRS (12x107mm)
24 RA 7040 MLRS (40x70mm)
n/a TOROS 230A (8x230mm, 65km)
n/a TOROS 260A (8x260mm, 110km)
Self-propelled artillery
80+ T 155 Fırtına (K9T) 155/52 SP-2000 (155mm) (a total of 350 will be produced)[12]
219 M110 (203mm)
36 M107 (175mm)
9 M 55 (203mm)
222 M 44T (155mm) (Upgraded)
365 M 52T (155mm) (Upgraded)
26 M 108T (155mm) (Upgraded)
Towed artillery
110+ T 155 Panter 155/52 FT-2000 (155mm) (a total of 400 will be produced)[13]
825 M 101 (105mm)
535 M 114 (155mm)
162 M 115 (203mm)
175 M 116 (75mm)
171 M 59 (155mm)
128 Skoda (105mm)
10 M.39 Skoda (105mm) (Used in training)
10 105R Metalgun (105mm) (Used in training)
Recoilless artillery
2135 M 40A (106mm)
1000 M 20 (75mm) (in storage)
850 M 18 (57mm) (in storage)
Mortars
578 HY-12Di (120mm)
325 UT1 (81mm)
3175 M1/M29 (81mm)
1265 M-30 (107mm)
n/a M-19 (60mm)


[edit] Small Arms
Weapon Caliber Notes
HK MP5 9x19mm NATO Made under license by Makina ve Kimya Endustrisi Kurumu (MKE)
HK 33 5.56x45mm NATO Made under license by Makina ve Kimya Endustrisi Kurumu (MKE)
HK G3 7.62x51mm NATO Made under license by Makina ve Kimya Endustrisi Kurumu (MKE)
G3A7 7.62x51mm NATO Made under license by Makina ve Kimya Endustrisi Kurumu (MKE)
MG3 7.62x51mm NATO Made under license by Makina ve Kimya Endustrisi Kurumu (MKE)
HK 69A1 40x46mm Made under license by Makina ve Kimya Endustrisi Kurumu (MKE)
T40 40x46mm Made under license by Makina ve Kimya Endustrisi Kurumu (MKE)
Mk 19 grenade launcher 40x53mm Made under license by Roketsan
M203 40x46mm Grenade Launcher
FN MAG 7.62x51mm NATO Machine Gun
FN MINIMI 5.56x45mm NATO Machine Gun
M4 carbine 5.56x45mm NATO Special forces and marines
M16 rifle 5.56x45mm NATO Special forces and marines
CheyTac Intervention M200[14] .408 CheyTac Special forces and marines sniper rifle
Kalekalıp .308 7.62x51mm NATO Special forces and marines sniper rifle
Kalekalıp Avunya .50 BMG Special forces and marines sniper rifle
Gepard anti-materiel rifle 12.7 x 107 mm Special forces and marines Anti-materiel rifle
SVD (Dragunov) 7.62x54mm R WP Used by some units of the Gendarmerie.
AK-47 (Kalashnikov) 7.62x39mm WP Used by some units of the Gendarmerie.

So, Is this bad or good?