Which processor is better?

2007-07-02 14:40:28

#1

blademaster: I'm moving to Brazil; +2,075|6637

AMD Opteron 185 Denmark 2.6GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core Processor

Model
Brand AMD
Processors Type Server
Series Opteron
Model OSA185CDBOX
CPU Socket Type
CPU Socket Type Socket 939
Tech Spec
Core Denmark
Multi-Core Dual-Core
Name Opteron 185
Operating Frequency 2.6GHz
HT 1000MHz
L1 Cache 128KB+128KB
L2 Cache 2 x 1MB
Manufacturing Tech 90 nm
64 bit Support Yes
Hyper-Transport Support Yes
Virtualization Technology Support No
Multimedia Instruction MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, 3DNOW! Professional
Voltage 1.30 V/1.35 V
Cooling Device Heatsink and Fan included

Price: $239

or

AMD Athlon 64 FX-60 Toledo 2.6GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor

Model
Brand AMD
Processors Type Desktop
Series Athlon 64 FX
Model ADAFX60CDBOX
CPU Socket Type
CPU Socket Type Socket 939
Tech Spec
Core Toledo
Multi-Core Dual-Core
Name Athlon 64 FX-60
Operating Frequency 2.6GHz
HT 2000MHz
L1 Cache 128KB+128KB
L2 Cache 2 x 1MB
Manufacturing Tech 90 nm
64 bit Support Yes
Hyper-Transport Support Yes
Virtualization Technology Support No
Multimedia Instruction MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, 3DNOW! Professional
Voltage 1.30 V/1.35 V
Cooling Device Heatsink and Fan included

Price: $459.00

2007-07-02 14:42:18

#2

genius_man16: Platinum Star whore; +365|6670|Middle of nowhere

from what i can see, the first one, as the only difference is 1000MHz

that MIGHT be a big difference, but idk

2007-07-02 14:44:02

#3

buLLet_t00th: Mr. Boombastic; +178|6434|Stealth City, UK

The second is definetly the better one but for the price difference I would go for the Opi.

2007-07-02 14:44:50

#4

blademaster: I'm moving to Brazil; +2,075|6637

does HT stand for hyper threading? under where it said HT 1000Mhz and 2000Mhz

also any other significant difference

Last edited by blademaster (2007-07-02 14:45:54)

2007-07-02 14:47:55

#5

Mong0ose: Will it blend?; +24|6478|UK

i wouldnt go for either - unless u particularly want a 939 cpu - they dont support DDR2 RAM as far as i am aware

I used to have a 4400 X2 939 and they replaced it with a new version that could use ddr2 - cant remember what the suffix was tho

2007-07-02 14:50:20

#6

ReDevilJR: Member; +106|6343

FX-60 has an unlocked multiplier, instead of upping up the frequency, just increment the multiplier... Few kinks like that are different...

2007-07-02 14:55:14

#7

devilcat: Member; +7|6683

HT stands for Hyper Transport, basically AMDs replacement for the FSB, Intel will be loosing there FSB later this year or next year.
I would get the Opteron if you are setting up a server, get the FX if you want to do any gaming... the motherboard you will pick will probably be the deciding factor, see if you can get a board that supports DDR3

2007-07-02 15:00:42

#8

ReDevilJR: Member; +106|6343

devilcat wrote:
HT stands for Hyper Transport, basically AMDs replacement for the FSB, Intel will be loosing there FSB later this year or next year.
I would get the Opteron if you are setting up a server, get the FX if you want to do any gaming... the motherboard you will pick will probably be the deciding factor, see if you can get a board that supports DDR3

How can those processors support DDR3? They're both Skt 939 Processors.

2007-07-02 15:04:06

#9

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6573|SE London

blademaster wrote:
does HT stand for hyper threading? under where it said HT 1000Mhz and 2000Mhz

also any other significant difference

Hypertransport.
Hyperthreading is HTT.

I'd definately go for the Opty.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2007-07-02 15:05:06)

2007-07-02 15:05:07

#10

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6641

Opty is the better buy, but the FX-60 is the better processor.

2007-07-02 15:10:22

#11

tiptopT: Member; +72|6574|Scotland's Capital

ghettoperson wrote:
Opty is the better buy, but the FX-60 is the better processor.

Bingo!

2007-07-02 15:10:27

#12

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6559|NYC / Hamburg

definitely the opty. Usually way better overclockers and much cheaper

ghettoperson wrote:
Opty is the better buy, but the FX-60 is the better processor.

how so? Usually the optys are the higher quality ones (seeing as they are used under tough conditions in servers). The only advantage is the unlocked multi which doesn't really help with overclocking anyhow

Last edited by max (2007-07-02 15:13:17)

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2007-07-02 15:21:16

#13

Monkey Spanker: Show it to the nice monkey.; +284|6244|England

opty all the way they are so good at oc'ing research the MB as well, have a look at some of the DFi mobo's or possibly epox. Try this website they are mostly a friendly bunch and could help you out with the choice of mother board.

http://www.overclockers.com/

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2007-07-02 15:22:37

#14

[PTG]shogun: PS n00b & proud vista user; +44|6424

C2D anyone

for those prices you can get a quad core for them same or less in a few weeks

£150 for the Q6600 (thats $300 )

2007-07-02 15:27:39

#15

ReDevilJR: Member; +106|6343

[PTG]shogun wrote:
C2D anyone

for those prices you can get a quad core for them same or less in a few weeks

£150 for the Q6600 (thats $300 )

$266 in USnA

2007-07-02 15:29:33

#16

buLLet_t00th: Mr. Boombastic; +178|6434|Stealth City, UK

ReDevilJR wrote:
[PTG]shogun wrote:
C2D anyone

for those prices you can get a quad core for them same or less in a few weeks

£150 for the Q6600 (thats $300 )
$266 in USnA

Thts what the shops will be buying individual CPU's in 1000 batches. Expect it to be a bit higher.

2007-07-02 15:37:35

#17

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6708

buLLet_t00th wrote:
ReDevilJR wrote:
[PTG]shogun wrote:
C2D anyone

for those prices you can get a quad core for them same or less in a few weeks

£150 for the Q6600 (thats $300 )
$266 in USnA
Thts what the shops will be buying individual CPU's in 1000 batches. Expect it to be a bit higher.

Expect it to be about $280. Not that much of a difference.

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2007-07-02 22:06:24

#18

devilcat: Member; +7|6683

Just use this memory, wich is a hell of alot better than DDR2 http://tinyurl.com/3bod4j
and yes, they will be making 939 boards that support DDR3

ReDevilJR wrote:
devilcat wrote:
HT stands for Hyper Transport, basically AMDs replacement for the FSB, Intel will be loosing there FSB later this year or next year.
I would get the Opteron if you are setting up a server, get the FX if you want to do any gaming... the motherboard you will pick will probably be the deciding factor, see if you can get a board that supports DDR3
How can those processors support DDR3? They're both Skt 939 Processors.

2007-07-02 22:26:54

#19

bajabug69: Member; +2|6525|Oz

You can overclock the shit out of an FX chip because of the unlocked multis,no other AMD has that feature,the rest are all limited.

2007-07-03 04:45:01

#20

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6559|NYC / Hamburg

bajabug69 wrote:
You can overclock the shit out of an FX chip because of the unlocked multis,no other AMD has that feature,the rest are all limited.

urgh ..... NO?

you can still OC all other procs by increasing the "FSB". How do you think my opty 170 (stock 2.0 GHz) runs at 3.1 GHz? Optys are usually the better OCers

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2007-07-03 04:59:21

#21

kylef: Gone; +1,352|6485|N. Ireland

Generally speaking, the Opteron cores are highly overclockable but the FX-60 boasts that it is one of the most powerful cores in the range.

2007-07-03 05:09:43

#22

Slayer: ---hates you; +1,137|6748|Hell, p.o box 666

max wrote:
bajabug69 wrote:
You can overclock the shit out of an FX chip because of the unlocked multis,no other AMD has that feature,the rest are all limited.
urgh ..... NO?

you can still OC all other procs by increasing the "FSB". How do you think my opty 170 (stock 2.0 GHz) runs at 3.1 GHz? Optys are usually the better OCers

Optys are overclockers paradise. But what are those prices? A FX60 is only 169€, a Opteron180 is 159€ and the almighty Opteron154 is 199€ over here

@max: yours run on 3.1GHz?! Just wow.

Anyways I´d go for the FX60 (because I dont dare overclocking)!

2007-07-03 05:13:27

#23

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6559|NYC / Hamburg

Sl4y3r wrote:
max wrote:
bajabug69 wrote:
You can overclock the shit out of an FX chip because of the unlocked multis,no other AMD has that feature,the rest are all limited.
urgh ..... NO?

you can still OC all other procs by increasing the "FSB". How do you think my opty 170 (stock 2.0 GHz) runs at 3.1 GHz? Optys are usually the better OCers
Optys are overclockers paradise. But what are those prices? A FX60 is only 169€, a Opteron180 is 159€ and the almighty Opteron154 is 199€ over here

@max: yours run on 3.1GHz?! Just wow.

well I am pumping a fair bit of voltage though it: 1.6V. 1.65V will even push it to 3.2GHz but my Big typhoon fails at cooling those speeds.That would be a definite case for water cooling/phase change/TEC/... 3.1 is the highest stable OC that will say somewhat cool. Usually I have mine at 2.6 GHz @ stock (1.35) volts

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2007-07-03 05:39:02

#24

kylef: Gone; +1,352|6485|N. Ireland

max, what's the stock of your Opty?

2007-07-03 05:49:01

#25

Cheez: Herman is a warmaphrodite; +1,027|6431|King Of The Islands

max wrote:
(stock 2.0 GHz)

My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.

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