Poll

What is your stance on global warming?

It wont affect me in my lifetime, therefore I dont care11%11% - 16
We must protect the future generations by acting now60%60% - 84
Global warming is a myth28%28% - 39
Total: 139
De_Jappe
Triarii
+432|6811|Belgium

If you looked at todays weather in belgium, you wouldn't talk about global warming. It's summer ffs!
topal63
. . .
+533|7002

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

Hey topal cut it with the personal attacks
How is pointing out that a BS opinion & myth - that scorpion did not personally create - really how is that a personal attack.
Liberal-Sl@yer
Certified BF2S Asshole
+131|6740|The edge of sanity

topal63 wrote:

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

Hey topal cut it with the personal attacks
How is pointing out that a BS opinion & myth - that scorpion did not personally create - really how is that a personal attack.
Lol well i think calling him an idiot and telling him to put up or shut up when hes trying to present his point is a personal attack.
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7050|Cambridge (UK)
You know what, topal, you wanna believe what you wanna believe, go ahead, I'm not stopping you.

Personally, I'll stick with being open-mindedly skeptical.
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7050|Cambridge (UK)

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

topal63 wrote:

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

Hey topal cut it with the personal attacks
How is pointing out that a BS opinion & myth - that scorpion did not personally create - really how is that a personal attack.
Lol well i think calling him an idiot and telling him to put up or shut up when hes trying to present his point is a personal attack.
Don't worry. It doesn't bother me.
topal63
. . .
+533|7002

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

topal63 wrote:

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

Hey topal cut it with the personal attacks
How is pointing out that a BS opinion & myth - that scorpion did not personally create - really how is that a personal attack.
Lol well i think calling him an idiot and telling him to put up or shut up when hes trying to present his point is a personal attack.
LOL, back at ya... first off scorpion, generally knows, I don't think he's an idoit, from past convo.s.

And, I never called him an idiot (you misunderstand the general nature of the word play comment). And "put up shut up" is call to step up... not to step down. But  there is no real way he can step up. The "Global Cooling Alarm in 70's" thing is a myth - a distortion of recent invention.

And lastly, there is nothing reasonable about this specific skeptic position; of which neither of you are its originators.

Last edited by topal63 (2007-06-25 14:02:57)

Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7050|Cambridge (UK)

topal63 wrote:

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

topal63 wrote:


How is pointing out that a BS opinion & myth - that scorpion did not personally create - really how is that a personal attack.
Lol well i think calling him an idiot and telling him to put up or shut up when hes trying to present his point is a personal attack.
LOL, back at ya... first off scorpion, generally knows, I don't think he's an idoit, from past convo.s.

And, I never called him an idiot (you misunderstand the general nature of the word play comment). And "put up shut up" is call to step up... not to step down. But  there is no real way he can step up. The "Global Cooling Alarm in 70's" thing is a myth - a distortion of recent invention.

And lastly, there is nothing reasonable about this specific skeptic position; of which neither of you are its originators.
On this occasion you win on two grounds - 1. your persistence and 2. my not wanting to be bothered with arguing about it now.
topal63
. . .
+533|7002

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

topal63 wrote:

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:


Lol well i think calling him an idiot and telling him to put up or shut up when hes trying to present his point is a personal attack.
LOL, back at ya... first off scorpion, generally knows, I don't think he's an idoit, from past convo.s.

And, I never called him an idiot (you misunderstand the general nature of the word play comment). And "put up shut up" is call to step up... not to step down. But  there is no real way he can step up. The "Global Cooling Alarm in 70's" thing is a myth - a distortion of recent invention.

And lastly, there is nothing reasonable about this specific skeptic position; of which neither of you are its originators.
On this occasion you win on two grounds - 1. your persistence and 2. my not wanting to be bothered with arguing about it now.
I loose then actually... becuase there is no such thing as an "internet debate" to be won - in my mind. There is only the exchange of information (IMO).
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7050|Cambridge (UK)

topal63 wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

topal63 wrote:


LOL, back at ya... first off scorpion, generally knows, I don't think he's an idoit, from past convo.s.

And, I never called him an idiot (you misunderstand the general nature of the word play comment). And "put up shut up" is call to step up... not to step down. But  there is no real way he can step up. The "Global Cooling Alarm in 70's" thing is a myth - a distortion of recent invention.

And lastly, there is nothing reasonable about this specific skeptic position; of which neither of you are its originators.
On this occasion you win on two grounds - 1. your persistence and 2. my not wanting to be bothered with arguing about it now.
I loose then actually... becuase there is no such thing as an "internet debate" to be won - in my mind. There is only the exchange of information (IMO).
Kewl. I win! Yay me!
topal63
. . .
+533|7002

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

topal63 wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

On this occasion you win on two grounds - 1. your persistence and 2. my not wanting to be bothered with arguing about it now.
I loose then actually... becuase there is no such thing as an "internet debate" to be won - in my mind. There is only the exchange of information (IMO).
Kewl. I win! Yay me!
Yep!  (CRAP! I LOST!)

Last edited by topal63 (2007-06-25 14:22:05)

M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6507|Escea

Its just typical summer weather where I am, few days of heat and sun, followed by a week of rain, rinse and repeat.

Last edited by M.O.A.B (2007-06-25 14:26:40)

Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7127|Reykjavík, Iceland.

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

PBAsydney wrote:

All electricity and house warming on Iceland is made by Hydroelectricity and Geothermal heat.
Wow! Didn't Iceland used to be all coal powered, that's a great switcharound. The rest of the world could learn a lot of lessons.
True enough, but unlike most of the rest of the world, Iceland has more than enough Hydroelectric and, particularly, Geothermal heat for all their energy needs.

Wind and tidal power is the best bet for most of the developed world. And anywhere at all equatorial should invest in solar power. But, unlike in Iceland, for the majority of the world, switching from non-renewable to renewable power sources, without going down the nuclear route (which a) ain't green and b) ain't truly renewable), isn't going to be anywhere near as easy as it has been for Iceland.
We never used coal, we have always used renewable sources, we started off with dams in the early 20th century, before that we just lived in houses of turf with candles

Sucks however that 30% of our clean renewable power is used so aluminum factories can pollute more because of cheaper electricity.....
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6959|Canberra, AUS

M.O.A.B wrote:

Its just typical summer weather where I am, few days of heat and sun, followed by a week of rain, rinse and repeat.
FOOOOOOOORRRRRR FUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEE

Where the fuck do you get the idea that the changes are already here? We may be seeing the BEGINNINGS of change, but most scientists agree that on a local level we won't see much - yet.

---

The Global Cooling saga of the 70s was because of all the SOs and other global dimmers, as I've explained for the 5th time. It seems some people refuse to get into their heads this idea.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6507|Escea

Spark wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

Its just typical summer weather where I am, few days of heat and sun, followed by a week of rain, rinse and repeat.
FOOOOOOOORRRRRR FUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEE

Where the fuck do you get the idea that the changes are already here? We may be seeing the BEGINNINGS of change, but most scientists agree that on a local level we won't see much - yet.

---

The Global Cooling saga of the 70s was because of all the SOs and other global dimmers, as I've explained for the 5th time. It seems some people refuse to get into their heads this idea.
1. I gave no idea or interpretation that changes were here.
2. I am merely explaining as others have what the weather is currently like.
3. Take some diazapam.
weerdfoo1
Banned
+26|6449|California
well, i'm not sure how true this is, but somewhere i heard or read (i forget) that i think it was the south antarctic ocean was saturated with carbon dioxide.  This being one of the green house gases, i would say its true that yes global warming is occuring
jsnipy
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+3,277|6806|...

horse.

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