san4
The Mas
+311|6690|NYC, a place to live
I like to think Iran is a great, complex and interesting society, but this kind of thing brings me back to reality. Death penalty for making porn? Lashes for appearing in a sex tape? Extreme brutality isn't a very effective way to preserve societal values.

AP wrote:

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) -- Iran's parliament on Wednesday voted in favor of a bill that could lead to the death penalty for persons convicted of working in the production of pornographic movies.

With a 148-5 vote in favor and four abstentions, lawmakers present at the Wednesday session of the 290-seat parliament approved that "producers of pornographic works and main elements in their production are considered corrupter of the world and could be sentenced to punishment as corrupter of the world."

The term, "corrupter of the world" is taken from the Quran, the Muslims' holy book, and ranks among the highest on the scale of an individual's criminal offenses. Under Iran's Islamic Penal Code, it carries a death penalty.

The "main elements" referred to in the draft include producers, directors, cameramen and actors involved in making a pornographic video.

The bill also envisages convictions ranging from one year imprisonment to a death sentence for the main distributors of the movies and also producers of Web sites in which the pornographic works appear.

Besides videos, the bill covers all electronic visual material, such as DVDs and CDs. Other material, such as porn magazines and books, are already banned under Iranian law.

To become law, the bill requires an approval by the Guardian Council, a constitutional watchdog in Iran.

It is widely believed that the drafting of the bill came about as a reaction to a scandal last year, when a private videotape, apparently belonging to Iranian actress Zahra Amir Ebrahimi and allegedly showing her having intercourse with a man, became available across Iran.

The videotape was leaked to the Internet and released on a black market DVD, becoming a full-blown Iranian sex tape scandal. Ebrahimi later came under an official investigation, which is still ongoing. She faces fines, whip lashing or worse for her violation of Iran's morality laws.

The unnamed man on the tape, who is suspected of releasing it, reportedly fled to Armenia but was subsequently returned to Iran and charged with breach of public morality laws. He remains in jail.

In an exclusive interview with the British newspaper The Guardian early this year, Ebrahimi denied she was the woman in the film and dismissed it as a fake, made by a vengeful former fiance bent on destroying her career.

In recent years, private videotapes have increasingly been leaked to the public in Iran, riling the government and many in this conservative Islamic country, where open talk of sex is banned and considered taboo.

However, pornographic material is easily accessible through foreign satellite television channels in Iran. Bootleg videotapes and CDs are also available on the black market on many street corners.
CameronPoe
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Another Iran is evil news report. How predictable. How is Than Shwe doing recently? And what about Robert Mugabe? And Kim Jong Il? The dictators don't seem to get the attention in the media anymore since America started building a case for war against Iran....

In case you hadn't noticed, abhorrent though the law is, that was democracy in action - isn't that what America wants to spread?

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-06-13 16:42:51)

usmarine
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CameronPoe wrote:

Another Iran is evil news report. How predictable.
You calling a thread predictable is down right laughable.
King_County_Downy
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Sure beats another "Israel is Evil" thread.
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
san4
The Mas
+311|6690|NYC, a place to live

CameronPoe wrote:

Another Iran is evil news report. How predictable. How is Than Shwe doing recently? And what about Robert Mugabe? And Kim Jong Il? The dictators don't seem to get the attention in the media anymore since America started building a case for war against Iran....

In case you hadn't noticed, abhorrent though the law is, that was democracy in action - isn't that what America wants to spread?
The only Americans who want to spread democracy are the Americans who know nothing about the places they want to spread it to.

If this anti-porn brutality is the will of the Iranian people, that's worse than having one brutal idiot in charge (e.g., Mugabe, Kim Jong Il, etc.).
oug
Calmer than you are.
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Worse, maybe. But what are you gonna do about it? If that's what they want then so be it. Its their society to form any way they want to. Don't like it? I hear Cyprus also has better beaches.
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d4rkst4r
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CameronPoe wrote:

Another Iran is evil news report. How predictable.
Coming from a guy who's majority of posts trash America, more specifically the Republican Party. Congratz, you've been awarded King of Contradiction.
"you know life is what we make it, and a chance is like a picture, it'd be nice if you just take it"
oug
Calmer than you are.
+380|6521|Πάϊ

d4rkst4r wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Another Iran is evil news report. How predictable.
Coming from a guy who's majority of posts trash America, more specifically the Republican Party. Congratz, you've been awarded King of Contradiction.
How is that contradictory?
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DeathBecomesYu
Member
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d4rkst4r wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Another Iran is evil news report. How predictable.
Coming from a guy who's majority of posts trash America, more specifically the Republican Party. Congratz, you've been awarded King of Contradiction.
DeathBecomesYu
Member
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usmarine2005 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Another Iran is evil news report. How predictable.
You calling a thread predictable is down right laughable.
d4rkst4r
biggie smalls
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oug wrote:

d4rkst4r wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Another Iran is evil news report. How predictable.
Coming from a guy who's majority of posts trash America, more specifically the Republican Party. Congratz, you've been awarded King of Contradiction.
How is that contradictory?
Because he is stating "how predictable" that someone else is about trashing Iran, when he is really predictable about trashing America.
"you know life is what we make it, and a chance is like a picture, it'd be nice if you just take it"
oug
Calmer than you are.
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d4rkst4r wrote:

oug wrote:

d4rkst4r wrote:


Coming from a guy who's majority of posts trash America, more specifically the Republican Party. Congratz, you've been awarded King of Contradiction.
How is that contradictory?
Because he is stating "how predictable" that someone else is about trashing Iran, when he is really predictable about trashing America.
It's not trashing though. There's a reasoning behind it. In this case: the Iranian society has a slightly different sense of right and wrong. The punishment is harsh according to western standards. I wouldn't go for it either...

But the essence is that this harsh punishment was decided democratically, and supposedly, it is exactly this kind of democratic procedure that the west is aiming to spread.

So again, for us who consider the death penalty for making porn to be outlandish, I recommend some other vacation destination.

Not to mention the fact that all this attention is suspiciously springing up now... surely some time ago nobody would bother posting this. Everyone was all about how bad the Iraqis were.
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iamangry
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Makes me glad to be an American in America, where I can have my 200 GB of porn and nobody can do a damned thing about it!  Take that muslim lunatics!!  I'll make up for your people not being able to "corrupt the world" by having a full 2 weeks of porn on my computer and being able to send it to anyone who wants it!
CameronPoe
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usmarine2005 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Another Iran is evil news report. How predictable.
You calling a thread predictable is down right laughable.
It's called being consistent...
usmarine
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CameronPoe wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Another Iran is evil news report. How predictable.
You calling a thread predictable is down right laughable.
It's called being consistent...
roger
Bubbalo
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What's funny is the rest of the Western world says the exact same thing about Americans using the death penalty.....................
usmarine
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Bubbalo wrote:

What's funny is the rest of the Western world says the exact same thing about Americans using the death penalty.....................
We put people to death for porn?
Bubbalo
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Where did I say that?
usmarine
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Bubbalo wrote:

Where did I say that?
You didn't.  But we put people to death for killing people, not because they filmed a chick getting railed.

Last edited by usmarine2005 (2007-06-13 20:59:36)

san4
The Mas
+311|6690|NYC, a place to live

Bubbalo wrote:

What's funny is the rest of the Western world says the exact same thing about Americans using the death penalty.....................
I don't think the world says that the US death penalty is fine because it is the will of the American people. By the same token, I think it's fair to say that, democratic or not, Iran's brutal attempts to suppress sex are wrong, repulsive and doomed to fail.
konfusion
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DeathBecomesYu wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Another Iran is evil news report. How predictable.
You calling a thread predictable is down right laughable.
I can quote too!

-konfusion
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
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usmarine2005 wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Where did I say that?
You didn't.  But we put people to death for killing people, not because they filmed a chick getting railed.
He is saying that the rest of the western world calls the US mediaeval (proper spelling for the win) because it uses the death penalty. Think about what he's saying before you post.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
DeadboyUSMC
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The death penalty isn't used by every state in the US, don't generalize.
konfusion
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DeadboyUSMC wrote:

The death penalty isn't used by every state in the US, don't generalize.
eh - why bother. usmarine2005 generalizes all the time by calling Muslims a bunch of terrorists.

Nah,  I know not all use the death penalty, and I hope more will change their ways to follow the example of those who don't.

-konfusion
PureFodder
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DeadboyUSMC wrote:

The death penalty isn't used by every state in the US, don't generalize.
It is still considered 'medieval' to many western nations. Similarly guns, abortions, etc. the US is seen by much of Europe as being fairly backwards. But hey, it's what the American people want.

On the other hand, Iran is absolutely nowhere near the bottom of the pile in terms of crazy laws and harsh penalties. There doesn't seem to be any genine reason to single them out on this issue.

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