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Esker wrote:

Then there's the tank whores who spawn kill but no one really cares about those anymore.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!!...all i ever fucking hear it OMG h4xx0r t4nK wh0r3!!!!!!!!

Last edited by [N.B]canadiannnn (2005-12-13 07:57:33)

I have played Karkand more than any other map because of the infantry fighting. I like to be able to run 5 feet and have a guy around that corner. Since I hit 20k I have been moving around alot more lately. I have been trying to get flying down the for last 2-3 weeks.

It is nice not having to worry about bombs coming down on your head, because your the one raining death.

Shut Up And Go Back To Karkand

That's the best advice i got for you.

seriously why should i waste my time on a huge map, running from control point to control point because all my teammates take off with the vehicles, one person in a humvee, one person in a buggy. Thats boring I find more action in the city maps, so im gonna play there.

I suppose This Also Applies to People who Just Straight Up Use Medic All The Time.

who cares who plays where with what kit how many times???
the only person that matters is the player himself.
if he is having fun then thats money well spent on his part.
let it go.

Am I missing something, or arent you stuck with the maps the server puts up.  Without jumping from server to server that is.  I like to be evenly balanced and suck at them all. LOL

JeSTeR_Player1 wrote:

I suppose This Also Applies to People who Just Straight Up Use Medic All The Time.

Whats so bad about being a medic all the time? I can actually help my team if I'm a medic. Why is it that your a n00b if you play nothing more then 1 map or 1 kit? Sure, its a shame but come on, everybody has his way of gaming. If you cant accept this my friend, you siriously need to.. Piss off.

The fact of the matter is that the map most servers run is karkand.  So that is why most people have karkand as their most played map.  Frankly, there are only a few maps I really care for.  Daquing, Karkand, Sharqi, and Dalian. I've only played 7 rounds on Cleansweep because its just not fun to anybody not flying a jet.

Here's my take on the subject...

Look at the leader board, and look at the top 10 stats of the game player in the world.  Everyones favorite map is Karkand.  I'm gonna venture out on a limb and say that, although they may whore Karkand for their points, I'm pretty sure SOMEONE in the top 10 is pretty damn good to get up there. 

Now, since the majority of players play on Karkand as their favorite map, I'm gonna say there are proportionally many more player who are very good soldiers on this game who play on Karkand.  I personally think you have to get to know a map well in order to be effective on it - that takes (for me) at least 10-20 hours.  Since I've gotten to know Karkand pretty well, it's my favorite map.  I'm not gonna bother trying to be an all around player and play on maps I detest like Dragon Valley or Kubra dam where I'm going to get jet whored every step I take.  Nor am I going to play on maps where I need to run for 10 minutes or drive for 5 in order to get to a flag, and maybe just MAYBE see someone on my way there.  If you don't have a tough armor/helo/jet on these maps, you're screwed because you can't defend yourself adequately from them (generally - I know there are exceptions so bug off).

This game is for fun and I'm not gonna piss myself off trying to play and learn maps that I don't like or want to play to begin with.  For you to have the audacity to call everyone who plays Karkand often a noob because they spent 50-80 dollars for their ability to be able to play this, you sir are a fucktard.  But back to my original point...

Many more people play Karkand, and many more people know Karkand.  There may be a lot of noobs who love this map, but there are many more people who have great skills who play this map - much more than those who play other maps.  Let me break it down...

If 10,000 people have Fu She pass as their favorite map, and lets throw out an extremely high rate of 50% of them being "good/non-noob" players - that makes 5000 people who are good and maybe all around players.  Now let's say 300-350k people play Karkand the most - and lets also say only 25% of them can be called good players - thats still 7500-8750 players who are great at this game, and therefore not noobs. 

Besides, you can run around Karkand and get the shit beat out of you if you truely suck - simply playing one map doesn't mean you're bad. 

And might I point out that although you play all the maps - Karkand is the one you play most.

Check mate.

TehSeraphim wrote:

I'm not gonna bother trying to be an all around player and play on maps I detest like Dragon Valley or Kubra dam where I'm going to get jet whored every step I take.  Nor am I going to play on maps where I need to run for 10 minutes or drive for 5 in order to get to a flag, and maybe just MAYBE see someone on my way there.  If you don't have a tough armor/helo/jet on these maps, you're screwed because you can't defend yourself adequately from them (generally - I know there are exceptions so bug off).

I feel bad for this persons rational.  You cant just go around on your merry way if theres a good jet in the sky  (Same as if a good armour squad is raping on Kark).  Take it apon yourself to make it A. harder for him  or B. you may actually take him down.  AA is very effective if used right. 

now the misnomer that it takes 10 mins or 5 mins to get from place to place on the more wide open maps is just stupid.  Most times I am trying to defend a flag and get killed and say while im waiting to respawn at the same flag, it goes nuetral.  Before I respawn i can see at a near by flag there is a jeep.  So I spawn there and get to the base before they take it and be able to take them out.  A jeep is very fast and can get to the next closest flag in less than 15 - 30 seconds more often than not.

I play on large maps I usually spend a lot of time doing nothing.

Just to add to Seraphim's thoughts - there is something to be said for being able to handle yourself in a situation which is all chaotic and just Normundy beach.

The larger maps offer quieter action, especially when it's a squad of say, 4 people, going up against 4 defenders for a particular flag. Both sides likely know what to expect, if their commanders are competant, as there will be spotting and both will move to meet each other.

In Karkand, things are just absolutely nuts. At any time you can be flanked, shot from the side, have an artillery dumped on your head, have a hand grenade dumped in your lap from over a fence, or have a vehicle materialize from out of nowhere. One skill that Karkand really helps to develop is keeping a third eye on that minimap display while still paying attention to all going around you. It promotes fast thinking and decision making, especially when faced with escaping a 3on1, avoiding a hand grenade without running into an even worse situation, not getting plowed by a vehicle, etc.

My main complaints with Karkand are some really questionable level goofs. Such as 32 player Kark missing APCs for the MEC side. Or the fact that MEC starts out on the disadvantage (or at least in my opinion - I'd rather be attacking hotel than defending it). Or the fact that the commander assets for both sides are rather unreasonably placed, making it very difficult for a specops to make his way in to disable them (and when he does, the people who spawn in their mains will usually finish him off quick). Only the worst teams on Karkand allow the commander resources to be down for any great length of time.