Poll

"EVERY city has a slum. Every city ! "Do you agree

Yes67%67% - 58
No32%32% - 28
Total: 86
Hunter/Jumper
Member
+117|6371
Please weigh in, say where and why, give examples if you can. Try and stick with first hand experince.

If you are in N.Y.C. for instance Don't pontificate ad nauseam on the qualities of Cork & Kerry...snicker.

Try not to insult. Have at it.
_NL_Lt.EngineerFox
Big Mouth Prick
+219|6547|Golf 1.8 GTI Wolfsburg Edition
I agree. The Hague has a famous neighbourhood called Schilderswijk, thats where we keep all the illegal immigrants
Ender2309
has joined the GOP
+470|6587|USA
D-D-D-D-D-DOWNTOWN, things will get mugged when you're downtown, everyone's been waiting to rob yooooo-uuu!

clear enough?
pedigreeuk
I'm English, not British!
+113|6787|Rotherham, England
Easy way to settle this is for someone to name a city that doesn't. I for one cant
ShowMeTheMonkey
Member
+125|6718
Birmingham:

Lozells Road. It's a predominantly black community, there's nothing wrong with that at all, but lately the younger generation are copying American "ghetto" ideals and are now turning themselves into a ghetto with shootings and crime rates spiralling out of control.

What pisses me off is that before hand it wasn't a ghetto! All of a sudden as it's cool to be in a ghetto tey are turning the areas they live in into ghettos.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6571
Dublin, Ireland has the north inner city, the Liberties, Ballymun, Kilbarrack, Darndale, Clondalkin, Tallaght....

As regards other places I've been: Palestine IS a slum, London has Brixton and many other less than salubrious areas, most of Belfast IS a slum, Paris has slums, I checked out Harlem and various areas like that when I was in NYC, Cabrini Green in Chicago is notorious.... the list is endless.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-05-25 08:10:01)

soldevilla13
SuperFly
+21|6738|oregon
Portland oregon has no ghetto, the closest tehy come is an african american suburb where the houses are, for the most part, under 2k sq ft. Outside of portland, there are trailer trash sort of places, but nothing inside portland.
theDude5B
Cool member
+804|6767
I disagree with this because of my view of a slum.

What you guys seem to be referring to more is that of a ghetto rather than a slum.

These areas you are talking about might be where the poor live, but they have facilities which separate them from slums, i.e. the availability of council services, garbage collection, ambulance services, police service, etc...
Also, they generally have permanent housing in those areas where as in a slum, homes will come and go.
Hunter/Jumper
Member
+117|6371
If Manhattan, White plains or Hoboken has a slum, please tell me where it is I would like to invest heavily there. I already have in Brooklyn. To late for Harlem. Its gone.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6571
A slum: government supplied housing for those below a certain means level/income.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slum#Slums_versus_ghettos
daddyofdeath
A REAL Combat Engineer in the house
+187|6269|UK Bradford W,Yorks. Age 27
Sheffield, Manor estate.  Just, fucking wow!!
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6571

CameronPoe wrote:

A slum: government supplied housing for those below a certain means level/income.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slum#Slums_versus_ghettos
They don't put them in fields in central Montana.

Also, for those with Acrobat.

http://www.cssny.org/pubs/special/2003_09poverty.pdf

The trends are the same in any country I would imagine as regards concentration of poverty and social problems in urban centres.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-05-25 09:55:14)

jarhedch
Member
+12|6686|Aberdeen, Uk, SF Bay Area 1st
i'm in aberdeen with all the oil wealth and there are slums here. Granted, far better than other places (like Brummieland), but still a slum nonetheless
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6410|The Gem Saloon
i would have to say there is. every city i have visited (49 of the 50 states and a couple times out of the country) has had a bad area. hell even on maui there were some pretty sketchy places.

Last edited by Parker (2007-05-25 10:03:29)

unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6788|PNW

ShowMeTheMonkey wrote:

Birmingham:

Lozells Road. It's a predominantly black community, there's nothing wrong with that at all, but lately the younger generation are copying American "ghetto" ideals and are now turning themselves into a ghetto with shootings and crime rates spiralling out of control.

What pisses me off is that before hand it wasn't a ghetto! All of a sudden as it's cool to be in a ghetto tey are turning the areas they live in into ghettos.
Waitwaitwaitwait...shootings? UK? Impossible!
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|6660
try to  find one in beverly hills or bel air.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,973|6648|949

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

try to  find one in beverly hills or bel air.
its the neighborhood with $2 million houses instead of $10.
Rickard.Jarl-
Member
+7|6235|Sweden, Norrbotten, Luleå.
Her in Luleå with 70000habitants we have, Hertsön, Björksgatan, Tuna. All dealers is there and also the immigrants.
1 thing, dont go there after midnight if you only can speak swedish and english, you'll get smashed if you cant spak arabic, turkish, syrian languages, slavic langauges.
thats a fact
ELITE-UK
Scratching my back
+170|6490|SHEFFIELD, ENGLAND
Sheffield has the manor of course, but that god i live in a relatively nice part of sheffield so ive not really been to the manor..i think

But yea all cities have their shite holes
EVieira
Member
+105|6494|Lutenblaag, Molvania

CameronPoe wrote:

A slum: government supplied housing for those below a certain means level/income.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slum#Slums_versus_ghettos
By this definition, Brazil barely has any slums.
"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered;  the point is to discover them."
Galileo Galilei  (1564-1642)
san4
The Mas
+311|6704|NYC, a place to live
Relatively poor workers are employed in every wealthy area, and they have to live somewhere. It is a common pattern for poor areas--maybe slums, maybe not--to spring up near wealthy areas so the maids, cleaning people, nannies, etc. don't have to travel too far to work.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6732
Oslo, Norway. With good social service, doubt theres any slums there.
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CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6571

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Oslo, Norway. With good social service, doubt theres any slums there.
Been there. Better than any other city I've been too but somehow was still plagued by prostitutes from eastern Europe, Russia and Africa. Didn't actually notice any slums per se though. Gotta love socialism: the way forward - everyone marches forward towards prosperity together.
Hunter/Jumper
Member
+117|6371

EVieira wrote:

By this definition, Brazil barely has any slums.
wow, never looked at it that way, I thought around the world there would be lots of Neat clean cities with people defiantly boasting about them with pride. Maybe not the Norm but achievable however. I am very suprised be the results so far. Perhaps most of the young adults ( the clear majority here ) have left school for vacation already? leaving just some demented old guys and a few shut in who can't score women or look cool at a beach.

I qualify for 2 out of 4 myself so I am building a pool.
B-Scimitar
Defeating your warriors.
+116|6425|Espoo, Finland

EVieira wrote:

By this definition, Brazil barely has any slums.
Same here in Finland.

Last edited by B-Scimitar (2007-05-26 11:10:17)

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