BF2S Forums am I the only asshole to Unlock the MG36 ? whats it good for?

slidero wrote:

As I've been going for my expert support I realize that all the support weapons are just awful.  Honestly the mg36 doesn't improve anything.

Everytime I read your posts, I taste bile.

Whats so great about burst mode? I've never fired my PKM for more than 15 bullets in a row anyway. IMO, support guns arent designed for short range, having to go prone constantly means you'll kill one or two but anyone can kill you from the side or behind. All the support weapons work much better at medium ranges, firing bursts. The length of the burst depends on the gun (PKM and RPK need shorter bursts, but make up for it in power), target movement and range. An average burst should be 3-10 rounds, with short range allowing full auto fire. If you get into that situation, you cant normally expect to live that long, so you may as well take as many with you as you can.

Another use of the PKM in paticular is as a single shot weapon. The first bullet is very accurate, and does the same damage as a SVD/Type 88 bullet.

Last edited by Talon (2005-12-19 14:47:38)

I am unlocking the mg36 and the g36e..

Lawk wrote:

slidero wrote:

As I've been going for my expert support I realize that all the support weapons are just awful.  Honestly the mg36 doesn't improve anything.

Everytime I read your posts, I taste bile.

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I snipe most of the time, or I am medic or spec ops, that is all I play really, but I change kits say when I see a tank owning alot of people, or other stuff....But I think I will get the engineer and the medic one....I do not use support that much

MG is great if you like support.

slidero wrote:

Lawk wrote:

slidero wrote:

As I've been going for my expert support I realize that all the support weapons are just awful.  Honestly the mg36 doesn't improve anything.

Everytime I read your posts, I taste bile.

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Lawk wrote:

slidero wrote:

Lawk wrote:

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i think the MG36 is brilliant. for close quarters gun vs gun combat all the extra ammo is the difference. i am sure everyone has experienced this; you turn around a corner to face a squad of enemy coming in your direction. have taken out them without having to reload (unless one of them has the damn GL). the MG36 has saved my ass many a time. i know my k/d isn't much to shout about and that i dont have that many kills in the light machine gun category but before i unlocked the MG36 my ratio was something like 50 kills 220 deaths. now its around 270 kills 370 deaths. still some may say thats awful but to me its a great improvement.

tthf wrote:

i think the MG36 is brilliant. for close quarters gun vs gun combat all the extra ammo is the difference. i am sure everyone has experienced this; you turn around a corner to face a squad of enemy coming in your direction. have taken out them without having to reload (unless one of them has the damn GL). the MG36 has saved my ass many a time.

Considering the PKM takes 3 or 4 shots to kill someone dead on (we'll call it 10 to account for a lot of missing) that means you can kill 10 people before reloading. I'm not quite sure when it overheats, but by firing in burst of 10-15 you can stop it overheating. Plus, since you have ammo bags, you can always reload if you have a quiet moment between shooting, even if you have 40 or so bullets left.

_j5689_ wrote:

When I get SF, the SCAR-L will be priority #2 on my list, #1 is filled by the F2000,

I'd test them thouroughly if I were you. SF lets you try the weapons out first, which emans you dont have to scavenge them to try them out. The Scar-L defeats the point of being a Special Ops, I.E, out ranging your opponent. While it is slightly more powerful than the G36C, the G36C halves its recoil when zoomed, giving it its amazing accuracy. The SCAR-L follows the other rfiles in only losing a quarter of its recoil when zoomed. Granted, it does have a red dot scope, but a few (say 4-6?) hours of using any of the G36C, E or K will enable you to shoot just as effectively with the iron sights. So the SCAR-L is beaten by the G36C is pretty much every area.

The F2000 is a compromise between the M16 and the AKs. It doesnt do either that well, ahving marginally better accuracy than the AKs, but significantly lower damage. It also lacks the high rate of fire of the M16, as well as a lower rate of zoom than the other rifles. The G3 does more damage per shot than anything except the snipers and PKM (yes, that includes the other support weapons), and therefore is a much better unlock. It also posesses reasonable accuracy when firing in bursts, and a well shaped set of iron sights. Its great weakness is the small magazine, making unsuitable for shooting more than three people at close range.

So what is the F2000 good for? At close range, nothing beats the Ak47 and 101. At medium/long range, the G3s power is amazing. At long range, the M16 is the best. The F2000 is good for three things, then. The flashbang grenade you get in regular BF2 (which isnt that much use as the levels are too open for it to be used effectively), the grenade launcher for those who like to use it (I wont say the words noob-tube - oops), and the fact that it works at all ranges. Just not well.

*breathes out*

AFlyingNun wrote:

Personally, I hate it. I'd take RPK-47 or the PKM anyday. I've tried to use it, figuring there must be some advantage to it, but I've yet to see it...

Get used to it. I didn't like it at first, but this last round I played on 64p Karkand I had 29 kills and 7 deaths. In comparison to the other support guns, it's wicked accurate at medium range(3 round burst), rapid fire, quick reload, quiet, and decent power. It's a good happy medium between the other support guns but much more accurate. I'd venture to guess it's accuracy is just below the MP-5. I've used all of the guns for good period of time and would have to say it's the next best unlock to the G36 class rifles.

Adonlude wrote:

MG36 is quality, it fills a niche that the other guns don't in that it is the closest Support can get to an assault rifle.

Well said.

I unlocked the gun last week and I am loving it. Its great because of its similarity to the G36E (burst shot). It is also very good for close encounters with bunny hoppers. They come a bouncing and I just let rip on full auto. That quickly downs them.

i unlocked the pkm first... my second unlock was the mg36, in the hopes to get the tear gas.... much dissapointed i was when i found out that i didn't get the gas, and it didn't do as much damage as the pkm...

strangely enough i kept trying to use it, because i just wanted to like it since i had wasted an unlock on it. And after a few hours of play, i finally realized why i could like this gun...

if i lay on a roof, cutting down infantry when they ran by, and suddenly spotted a sniper on a distant roof, i actually had a chance to hit him and kill him with the mg36.

I could continue to lay down bullets, to provide cover fire for my squad. This baby, can almost fire the entire magazine without overheating, and if you fire everything in bursts, you can use the entire clip.

but now, my days as a support may be limited. Just tried seriously playing assault, and found that the gun kills in fewer shots than the support, as there is too much spread when firing support. And this is not even counting the noob tube, that can actually seriously damage a tank or apc in a few well placed shots.

with 4 tube shots, you damage the tank at half.

It takes 17 handgrenades to completely destroy a tank or apc. That's alot of reloads for a support.