BF2S Forums Why do U.S. citizens complain so much? Why not move?

Harmor wrote:

I'm a United States citizen.  Have you noticed that more and more Americans are vilifying their own country?  Its probabaly the war, but I'm not sure.  In Oregon a couple of months back you saw what looked like American citizens buring an effigy of a United State soldier - something like this we usually see in a 3rd world nation or France.

We complain that our privacy is being abated.

We complain that our freedoms are being overridden.

We complain that hate speech is allowed to be heard.

We complain that our governement isn't doing enough for them.

We complain ALOT.


Basically, if its so bad here, why no move to another country?

Can I complain that "a lot" is two words?

But seriously, you can support the best football team in the World but you still moan when they give the ball away and you wouldn't switch teams just because of it either.

Last edited by =OBS= EstebanRey (2007-05-09 08:42:11)

Harmor wrote:

I'm a United States citizen.  Have you noticed that more and more Americans are vilifying their own country?  Its probabaly the war, but I'm not sure.  In Oregon a couple of months back you saw what looked like American citizens buring an effigy of a United State soldier - something like this we usually see in a 3rd world nation or France.

We complain that our privacy is being abated.

We complain that our freedoms are being overridden.

We complain that hate speech is allowed to be heard.

We complain that our governement isn't doing enough for them.

We complain ALOT.


Basically, if its so bad here, why no move to another country?

What a truly ridiculous OP. When are people in this world going to realise that your Government is supposed to work for the people not the other way around? If you don't like what's happening to your country, what do you do? ...complain to the people you elected to run it, that's what. It's there bloody job to run the country properly. Many people are now opposed to the prolonging of the occupation of Iraq but the incumbent administration is too pig headed to listen to the turning tide of the people. American civil liberties have been encroached upon in recent years also and people have a right to complain, the US is still a democratic nation (just about!) is it not. The suggestion that anyone who doesn't like it should leave is complete nonsense.

Your comment is fair enough only in terms of non Americans living in America who are complaining about the US.

Just curious. Is criticizing politicians and thier horseshit policies considered complaining about America?

Overall, your an american complaining about free speech. Welcome to the party. When are you moving?

i love this country. people bitch all over the world, its just how it goes. be happy you live in a country where you can bitch about anything all day long. over here, you can shout "Fuck GW!" all day long and nobody can stop you, now if you go try that over in north korea what would happen? right, none of us know because they dont even allow the fucking press in that shithole.



its all about gratuity......if you want something different, talk to your local elected official and see what the deal is. ive talked to my representative before about laws in missouri, there is no reason why you cant write a letter, or an email or even make a phone call.



i am not so delusional to think that our system is perfect, but sometimes it does work the way its intended.
and as far as people bitching goes.....get over it, its one of our rights, just like owning firearms.

Pug wrote:

Plus you choose what you remember Mr. Negativity.

QFE

Should the colonist have just submitted to the will of the King?
Should Martin Luther King have just moved?
We told the American Indians to move and look what happened there.

It is the duty of every American to stand up for what they believe in. Having a grievance with your government does not mean you hate your country.

First off it did make me laugh seeing a thread entitled "Why do U.S. citizens complain so much?", then seeing the first line of the OP read:

Harmour wrote:

I'm a United States citizen.

It then proceeded to complain about Americans complaining.

Surely I'm not the only one who finds this amusing.

Parker wrote:

i love this country. people bitch all over the world, its just how it goes. be happy you live in a country where you can bitch about anything all day long.

Exactly. Just as those who complain love the country. They are complaining to try and make it a better place.

Parker wrote:

its all about gratuity......if you want something different, talk to your local elected official and see what the deal is. ive talked to my representative before about laws in missouri, there is no reason why you cant write a letter, or an email or even make a phone call.

Or stage some sort of organised demonstration. All of these methods are perfectly legitimate ways of getting things you have grievances about changed.

Parker wrote:

i am not so delusional to think that our system is perfect, but sometimes it does work the way its intended.
and as far as people bitching goes.....get over it, its one of our rights, just like owning firearms.

Properly managed complaints are a good thing. They lead to progress. Poorly managed complaints lead to a discontent population, which leads to having an ineffective country.


@OP
If you don't like people complaining, why don't you move to a country where complaining isn't allowed? That'd make far more sense than complaining about people exercising their rights.

Kmarion wrote:

Should the colonist have just submitted to the will of the King?
Should Martin Luther King have just moved?
We told the American Indians to move and look what happened there.

It is the duty of every American to stand up for what they believe in. Having a grievance with your government does not mean you hate your country.

QFT

The problem with American citizens is that we complain too much, and don't take enough action anymore. It's so much easier to live our cushy lives and raise our voice at something we don't agree with, but never expend the energy needed to actually attempt making a change. The way our country is going, the government could systematically rob us of all our freedoms over the next 20 years (That actually might be a pretty accurate statement already) and nobody would do a god damn thing. We would bitch and complain, but ultimately deal with it because we're lazy. If 1/3 of our country cared about some of the policies and out right lies that our government has been guilty of, then our country would be a bit of a different place at the moment.

How does that one saying go... "People should not fear their government, the government should fear its people."

BeerzGod wrote:

How does that one saying go... "People should not fear their government, the government should fear its people."

You're quoting V for Vendetta.

As a resident of Canuckistan (Canada) I can tell you that America is still the freest country in the world, bar none.  Don't see lineups to live in ANY country in Africa, South America, Asia or Eastern Europe do you? 

As for Western Europe, they are the pinnacle of multi-generational welfare socialism.  Their central government spends time regulating the shape of bananas for God's sake!

A better saying that we have up here:  In Canada, the government hates the people.  In America, the people hate the government.

We country folk do not complain.

We shit out in the woods and wipe our asses with leaves, And we do not care who is watching.

Who is complaining about that?

Last edited by Bull3t (2007-05-09 12:40:58)

Kmarion wrote:

Bull3t wrote:

We country folk do not complain.

We shit out in the woods and wipe our asses with leaves, And we do not care who is watching.

Who is complaining about that?

The leaves?

Yes, The Leafs.