ThaReaper
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I was wondering if it is possible to use two different kind of drives. Like a IDE and a SATA. Because I have a IDE for my primary hard drive and then I bought this SATA for a slave, but I don't know if you can do that.
King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|7056|Seattle

Ya sure ya betcha you can do that.
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
ThaReaper
Banned
+410|7099
Alright, installing this hard drive has been the hardest thing to install on my computer... It's getting old lol.
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7176|Riva, MD
Better that the IDE be the slave now since SATA is better.
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7176|Riva, MD

thareaper254 wrote:

Alright, installing this hard drive has been the hardest thing to install on my computer... It's getting old lol.
Be thankful you have SATA slots, I don't. 
The Stillhouse Kid
Licensed Televulcanologist
+126|7101|Deep In The South Of Texas
Run the SATA as your main drive for Windows and programs. Move your music, pics, etc. and pagefile to the IDE drive. With the pagefile on a separate drive from Windows you should see a nice little performance boost.
ThaReaper
Banned
+410|7099

The Stillhouse Kid wrote:

Run the SATA as your main drive for Windows and programs. Move your music, pics, etc. and pagefile to the IDE drive. With the pagefile on a separate drive from Windows you should see a nice little performance boost.
How am I suppose to do that? I'm not the smartest person with computers.
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7176|Riva, MD

thareaper254 wrote:

The Stillhouse Kid wrote:

Run the SATA as your main drive for Windows and programs. Move your music, pics, etc. and pagefile to the IDE drive. With the pagefile on a separate drive from Windows you should see a nice little performance boost.
How am I suppose to do that? I'm not the smartest person with computers.
Switch the jumpers position on them so the IDE one is in the "slave" position and the SATA one is in the "master" position.
ThaReaper
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+410|7099

_j5689_ wrote:

thareaper254 wrote:

The Stillhouse Kid wrote:

Run the SATA as your main drive for Windows and programs. Move your music, pics, etc. and pagefile to the IDE drive. With the pagefile on a separate drive from Windows you should see a nice little performance boost.
How am I suppose to do that? I'm not the smartest person with computers.
Switch the jumpers position on them so the IDE one is in the "slave" position and the SATA one is in the "master" position.
Well the thing about this new SATA drive it didn't come with a diagram saying where to put the pins if you want it to be slave, primary, or whatever. Which makes me mad, but does it really matter if it is primary or slave?

Last edited by thareaper254 (2007-05-07 17:12:21)

_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7176|Riva, MD

thareaper254 wrote:

_j5689_ wrote:

thareaper254 wrote:


How am I suppose to do that? I'm not the smartest person with computers.
Switch the jumpers position on them so the IDE one is in the "slave" position and the SATA one is in the "master" position.
Well the thing about this new SATA drive it didn't come with a diagram saying where to put the pins if you want it to be slave, primary, or whatever. Which makes me mad, but does it really matter if it is primary or slave?
I'm pretty sure it's standard format for all hard drives.  Google stuff about setting up slave and master jumpers on hard drives.
Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6898|King Of The Islands

_j5689_ wrote:

thareaper254 wrote:

_j5689_ wrote:


Switch the jumpers position on them so the IDE one is in the "slave" position and the SATA one is in the "master" position.
Well the thing about this new SATA drive it didn't come with a diagram saying where to put the pins if you want it to be slave, primary, or whatever. Which makes me mad, but does it really matter if it is primary or slave?
I'm pretty sure it's standard format for all hard drives.  Google stuff about setting up slave and master jumpers on hard drives.
SATAs are one device per channel, that is, there is no Master/Slave with SATA.
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7176|Riva, MD

Cheez wrote:

_j5689_ wrote:

thareaper254 wrote:


Well the thing about this new SATA drive it didn't come with a diagram saying where to put the pins if you want it to be slave, primary, or whatever. Which makes me mad, but does it really matter if it is primary or slave?
I'm pretty sure it's standard format for all hard drives.  Google stuff about setting up slave and master jumpers on hard drives.
SATAs are one device per channel, that is, there is no Master/Slave with SATA.
I forgot about that.  Does that mean he has to set it up from inside Windows?
ThaReaper
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What would change if I set the SATA to primary and the IDE to slave, performance wise?
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7176|Riva, MD

thareaper254 wrote:

What would change if I set the SATA to primary and the IDE to slave, performance wise?
Maybe someone else can explain it, I just know it's better.  SATA is faster than IDE so you should make that your primary HDD.
Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6898|King Of The Islands

thareaper254 wrote:

What would change if I set the SATA to primary and the IDE to slave, performance wise?
Much better. If you get yourself HD Tach (not sure if that other program does it), it shows you Access rates (speed) of the hard drives.

This will at least give you numbers to compare instead of seedy testimonials.

Plug it in, if your computer is a little old go into BIOS and change the SATA controller to anything other than RAID (eg. IDE), and if need be get drivers for the controller so Windows can see it. Most likely a SiliconImage or something, check your Manuel.

If your computer is a little newer, they thought 'hey that's a pain in the arse' and they just go now, like PATA drives.
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
ThaReaper
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Well, my drive wont work for some reason, I've followed all the steps, I've plugged everything in. The last reason I can think of why it wont read my hard drive is because the jumper. Could that be the problem?

http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg … 284#jumper

This shows jumper settings, but it says nothing about how to set it as slave.

Last edited by thareaper254 (2007-05-07 18:07:43)

Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6898|King Of The Islands

It is SATA.
There is only one device per cable
It does not have a MS/SL/CS jumper
It does not need a MS/SL/CS jumper

That is a compatibility (slow but guaranteed to work) jumper, which limits it to 1.5mbps (yes?), if you have the older motherboard, its best to probably leave that on.
________
Now then, in your BIOS (At Energy Efficient star, mash Del).
Under main, where you see the regular IDE devices, do you have extra listings (channel 2 and 3)?
https://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data/articles/2004/1192/bios01-standard_features_al.jpg


If so, make all NONEs to AUTOs and reboot.

If not, go into Intergrated Peripherals and set your SATA Controller to something that is not RAID, either 'non-RAID' or 'IDE'.
https://publish.it168.com/2006/0515/images/690037.jpg
________
Once this is done, you will see your drive show up either with the Energy Efficient star as an extra device, or if you had to go to Intergrated Peripherals, a second screen (for older boards). If this is the case, you will have to get a driver for Windows. Your Manuel will have the chipset/brand of controller or if you have the cd, install off that.
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
ThaReaper
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Cheez wrote:

It is SATA.
There is only one device per cable
It does not have a MS/SL/CS jumper
It does not need a MS/SL/CS jumper

That is a compatibility (slow but guaranteed to work) jumper, which limits it to 1.5mbps (yes?), if you have the older motherboard, its best to probably leave that on.
________
Now then, in your BIOS (At Energy Efficient star, mash Del).
Under main, where you see the regular IDE devices, do you have extra listings (channel 2 and 3)?
http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data/ar … res_al.jpg


If so, make all NONEs to AUTOs and reboot.

If not, go into Intergrated Peripherals and set your SATA Controller to something that is not RAID, either 'non-RAID' or 'IDE'.
http://publish.it168.com/2006/0515/images/690037.jpg
________
Once this is done, you will see your drive show up either with the Energy Efficient star as an extra device, or if you had to go to Intergrated Peripherals, a second screen (for older boards). If this is the case, you will have to get a driver for Windows. Your Manuel will have the chipset/brand of controller or if you have the cd, install off that.
I love you! It reads it now, everything is set up. Yay, thanks for the help. I should have tried that to start with.

Last edited by thareaper254 (2007-05-07 19:39:28)

Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6898|King Of The Islands

Thought I'd scoop up any unanswered questions h'yar.

thareaper254 wrote:

The Stillhouse Kid wrote:

Run the SATA as your main drive for Windows and programs. Move your music, pics, etc. and pagefile to the IDE drive. With the pagefile on a separate drive from Windows you should see a nice little performance boost.
How am I suppose to do that? I'm not the smartest person with computers.
Find this under Control Panel > System > Advanced > Performance > Advanced > Change

I have mine at 512MB - 1536MB because I've only got 1GB RAM and a turd of a CPU.

                                          ! REMEMBER TO HIT SET AFTERWARDS !
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
CrazeD
Member
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Cheez wrote:

Thought I'd scoop up any unanswered questions h'yar.

thareaper254 wrote:

The Stillhouse Kid wrote:

Run the SATA as your main drive for Windows and programs. Move your music, pics, etc. and pagefile to the IDE drive. With the pagefile on a separate drive from Windows you should see a nice little performance boost.
How am I suppose to do that? I'm not the smartest person with computers.
Find this under Control Panel > System > Advanced > Performance > Advanced > Change

I have mine at 512MB - 1536MB because I've only got 1GB RAM and a turd of a CPU.

                                          ! REMEMBER TO HIT SET AFTERWARDS !
You should have it at at least twice that.

I have it at 3000 and I have 2gb RAM.
Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6898|King Of The Islands

CrazeD wrote:

I have it at 3000 and I have 2gb RAM.
I bet you freak out when your PF Usage in Task Manager reaches 3%

CrazeD wrote:

You should have it at at least twice that.
* 80GB IDE + Torrents
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
ThaReaper
Banned
+410|7099

Cheez wrote:

Thought I'd scoop up any unanswered questions h'yar.

thareaper254 wrote:

The Stillhouse Kid wrote:

Run the SATA as your main drive for Windows and programs. Move your music, pics, etc. and pagefile to the IDE drive. With the pagefile on a separate drive from Windows you should see a nice little performance boost.
How am I suppose to do that? I'm not the smartest person with computers.
Find this under Control Panel > System > Advanced > Performance > Advanced > Change

I have mine at 512MB - 1536MB because I've only got 1GB RAM and a turd of a CPU.

                                          ! REMEMBER TO HIT SET AFTERWARDS !
I don't get it.
ghettoperson
Member
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Change size of page file on the left, hit set on the right to approve this. You can select the drives at the top.

https://img372.imageshack.us/img372/7529/pagefilepy7.jpg
ThaReaper
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+410|7099

ghettoperson wrote:

Change size of page file on the left, hit set on the right to approve this. You can select the drives at the top.

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/7529/pagefilepy7.jpg
so, you set it so it's the same as the other one?
ghettoperson
Member
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thareaper254 wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

Change size of page file on the left, hit set on the right to approve this. You can select the drives at the top.

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/7529/pagefilepy7.jpg
so, you set it so it's the same as the other one?
Well, I'm not entirely sure if you can set it so that the pagefile goes to one HDD. I have a pagefile on each HDD. I have a feeling if you tried then you'd just not have a pagefile on the SATA but not the IDE. But anyway, if it does work what you want to do is select the SATA at the top and then press the No paging file button and hit set. Then set the one on the IDE HDD to about 3 gigs.

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