blisteringsilence
I'd rather hunt with Cheney than ride with Kennedy
+83|6917|Little Rock, Arkansas

Vernedead wrote:

Exceptions To Free Speech.

The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man who told a small child that santa claus did not exist.
That doesn't even make sense.

What about all the cultures that don't say santa clause exists? The japanese folks from next door where I grew up didn't tell there kids there was a santa clause. When they asked, they said santa didn't exist.
fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6706|Menlo Park, CA
Regardless if he is nuts and their organization is a fraud, he can say whatever the fuck he wants to!

I hate him as most other people do! But thats why we are a great country, and thats why we fight!

Freedom of Speech is a core value of the United States. Therefore, should never be infringed upon just because you disagree with whatever the other person is saying! This applies to individuals as well as the federal government!
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6620|North Carolina

ATG wrote:

No doubt somebody has posted the ravings of this lunatic before. It is not my point just to say " hey looky at this guy " and post the video. My point is to say free speech is not so valuable as to allow these people to spew their vile, insane words. They need to be stopped.
     Stopped from protesting soldiers funerals, stopped from broadcasting or running a website. Stopped from being able to speak at all perhaps.

Free speech be damned.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e0_1178304529&p=1
Agreed...
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|6983
If they can curb this womans freedom of speach

http://www.rawstory.com/showoutarticle. … _plate.txt

why not these sickos?
Home
Section.80
+447|7063|Seattle, Washington, USA

No, there should not be an exception to free speech but rather they should not be allowed to harass the people at the funerals.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6776

blisteringsilence wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Also inciting people to violence is a crime, no?

So, should you be allowed to declare that elected US officials need to die, ATG?
You are all wrong. You can say you want someone to die. You can say someone needs to die.

What you can't say is "I am going to kill [Joe Blow]." That's a threat.
I'm trying to find the part where I'm wrong.  Inciting people to violence is telling them to harm someone, which is neither saying you want them to die nor need them to die.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6744|Global Command
I've never told anyone to harm the mayor of L.A.
I said, IMO they are actively working within the legal system to supplant the laws of the United States, and they need to be taken out.

You simpleton, I meant by the ballot.
fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6706|Menlo Park, CA

ATG wrote:

I've never told anyone to harm the mayor of L.A.
I said, IMO they are actively working within the legal system to supplant the laws of the United States, and they need to be taken out.

You simpleton, I meant by the ballot.
And any other mayor who is supplanting the legal system of the United States. . .aka Gavin Newsome up here in SF!!!
Vernedead
Cossack
+21|6448|Albion

blisteringsilence wrote:

Vernedead wrote:

Exceptions To Free Speech.

The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man who told a small child that santa claus did not exist.
That doesn't even make sense.

What about all the cultures that don't say santa clause exists? The japanese folks from next door where I grew up didn't tell there kids there was a santa clause. When they asked, they said santa didn't exist.
what about people who take light hearted comments far too seriously?
jonsimon
Member
+224|6710

ATG wrote:

No doubt somebody has posted the ravings of this lunatic before. It is not my point just to say " hey looky at this guy " and post the video. My point is to say free speech is not so valuable as to allow these people to spew their vile, insane words. They need to be stopped.
     Stopped from protesting soldiers funerals, stopped from broadcasting or running a website. Stopped from being able to speak at all perhaps.

Free speech be damned.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e0_1178304529&p=1
There are exceptions to free speech. That, however, is not one of them.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6776

ATG wrote:

I've never told anyone to harm the mayor of L.A.
I said, IMO they are actively working within the legal system to supplant the laws of the United States, and they need to be taken out.

You simpleton, I meant by the ballot.
Which is why you didn't object to me assuming you meant kill them when you said it before?

Okay, fine, what about your statements that Ahmadinejad needs to die?
Ridir
Semper Fi!
+48|6979
The single largest current restriction of free speech right now in the United States is the FCC which fines radios and Television for using words on their respective broadcasting systems I believe, I know it's off topic from what you two are rambling about but just food for thought.
JahManRed
wank
+646|6843|IRELAND

Let them rant away...don't let them erode your freedom of speech. Just ignore them as they are getting what they want with all the media attention.
The TV and news stations should group together and agree not to give them any more coverage and they will go away. Ohh and no media coverage of the hairy bikers beating the shit out of them either.....hopefully.
blisteringsilence
I'd rather hunt with Cheney than ride with Kennedy
+83|6917|Little Rock, Arkansas

Ridir wrote:

The single largest current restriction of free speech right now in the United States is the FCC which fines radios and Television for using words on their respective broadcasting systems I believe, I know it's off topic from what you two are rambling about but just food for thought.
Not true. There is no guarantee to free speech over the public airwaves. There IS a guarantee to free speech in public.

Now, while I agree that we should have free speech over the airwaves, I disagree that this is an untenable restriction. Banning this nutjob from speaking in public, that is untenable.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6620|North Carolina

BN wrote:

If they can curb this womans freedom of speach

http://www.rawstory.com/showoutarticle. … _plate.txt

why not these sickos?
That's South Dakota for you...
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6620|North Carolina

JahManRed wrote:

Let them rant away...don't let them erode your freedom of speech. Just ignore them as they are getting what they want with all the media attention.
The TV and news stations should group together and agree not to give them any more coverage and they will go away. Ohh and no media coverage of the hairy bikers beating the shit out of them either.....hopefully.
LOL...  Agreed...

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