Harmor
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Varegg wrote:

I vote armwrestling into global politics, let the leaders battle eachother over a disagreement !
If that is true then I would petition to add a new amendment to let Arnold Schwarzenegger be the United States president.


Article II of the United States Constituion:
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Skorpy-chan
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Varegg wrote:

I vote armwrestling into global politics, let the leaders battle eachother over a disagreement !
Nah, pit-fighting is superior.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
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Harmor wrote:

Varegg wrote:

I vote armwrestling into global politics, let the leaders battle eachother over a disagreement !
If that is true then I would petition to add a new amendment to let Arnold Schwarzenegger be the United States president.
Then it would be Terminators lol. Besides we already use unmanned drones as attack platforms, the Israelis built that robot that patrols their airports with a machinegun, the US built that HMMWV that could be controlled from far away. In time we will see robots tackling the most dangerous tasks.

We could also use thumb wars

Last edited by M.O.A.B (2007-05-05 12:17:33)

Sanjaya
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It would be like that really gay plane movie "Stealth"
Harmor
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Sanjaya wrote:

It would be like that really gay plane movie "Stealth"
Or Deal of the Century?
ELITE-UK
Scratching my back
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Harmor wrote:

I'm all for the remote presence that is coming on-line soon. 

This is where I can goto my local military military base at 8am...control drones (trucks and planes remotely on the otherside of the world), and then come home by 6pm for dinner.

Its going to happen...sooner than you think.  There is a good series on the Military Channel called FutureWeapons. 


How would having a 'drone army' affect the way we conduct warfare?
LOL, i watched that exact same TV show over here this morning, yes its coming soon!
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7066

All the grass would die because we all know what makes the grass grow.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6527|Escea

They'll be like the Cypher from MGS2, give em a gun and they'll raise hell.
TigerXtrm
Death by Indecency
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We'd have an entire platoon of tanks stranded in Iraq because the transmitter died...
Reciprocity
Member
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usmarine2005 wrote:

All the grass would die because we all know what makes the grass grow.
BLOOD!  BLOOD! BLOOD!
Liberal-Sl@yer
Certified BF2S Asshole
+131|6760|The edge of sanity
The drone army idea would be shit. Its hard enough to get a computer to complete facial recognition. How is it suppose to tell freind from foe, without being easily fooled? How can it properly hold a rifle for accuracy? How can it preform in a real world situation with sprinting and intense firefights? The human factor is way to important to leave out of any combat situation. and on the day that robots can do all of the things i listed above flawlessly, humanity will fall and the robots will rule
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6709|North Carolina

Harmor wrote:

I'm all for the remote presence that is coming on-line soon. 

This is where I can goto my local military military base at 8am...control drones (trucks and planes remotely on the otherside of the world), and then come home by 6pm for dinner.

Its going to happen...sooner than you think.  There is a good series on the Military Channel called FutureWeapons. 


How would having a 'drone army' affect the way we conduct warfare?
I think people would be more eager to enter war if human lives of their own country wouldn't be on the line during the conflict.

On the other hand, maybe this isn't such a bad thing.  I mean, without the problem of our own people dying in conflicts, then warfare becomes a lot more straightforward.  We could crush an enemy without losing even one of our own men.

If we're still having problems with the Middle East by the time something like this is in place, I see a very short and dim future for Arabs.
RedTwizzler
I do it for the lulz.
+124|6841|Chicago

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

The drone army idea would be shit. Its hard enough to get a computer to complete facial recognition. How is it suppose to tell freind from foe, without being easily fooled? How can it properly hold a rifle for accuracy? How can it preform in a real world situation with sprinting and intense firefights? The human factor is way to important to leave out of any combat situation. and on the day that robots can do all of the things i listed above flawlessly, humanity will fall and the robots will rule
Exactly. Especially considering the warfare we have now doesn't contain 2 sides with different uniforms, it's almost impossible to fathom.
jonsimon
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RedTwizzler wrote:

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

The drone army idea would be shit. Its hard enough to get a computer to complete facial recognition. How is it suppose to tell freind from foe, without being easily fooled? How can it properly hold a rifle for accuracy? How can it preform in a real world situation with sprinting and intense firefights? The human factor is way to important to leave out of any combat situation. and on the day that robots can do all of the things i listed above flawlessly, humanity will fall and the robots will rule
Exactly. Especially considering the warfare we have now doesn't contain 2 sides with different uniforms, it's almost impossible to fathom.
Wtf. We're not talking robots, we're talking UAVs and remote control.
jonsimon
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Turquoise wrote:

Harmor wrote:

I'm all for the remote presence that is coming on-line soon. 

This is where I can goto my local military military base at 8am...control drones (trucks and planes remotely on the otherside of the world), and then come home by 6pm for dinner.

Its going to happen...sooner than you think.  There is a good series on the Military Channel called FutureWeapons. 


How would having a 'drone army' affect the way we conduct warfare?
I think people would be more eager to enter war if human lives of their own country wouldn't be on the line during the conflict.

On the other hand, maybe this isn't such a bad thing.  I mean, without the problem of our own people dying in conflicts, then warfare becomes a lot more straightforward.  We could crush an enemy without losing even one of our own men.

If we're still having problems with the Middle East by the time something like this is in place, I see a very short and dim future for Arabs.
But then the government has free reign to go around killing people. Do you really want our nation to be a killing machine, quite literally?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6709|North Carolina

jonsimon wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Harmor wrote:

I'm all for the remote presence that is coming on-line soon. 

This is where I can goto my local military military base at 8am...control drones (trucks and planes remotely on the otherside of the world), and then come home by 6pm for dinner.

Its going to happen...sooner than you think.  There is a good series on the Military Channel called FutureWeapons. 


How would having a 'drone army' affect the way we conduct warfare?
I think people would be more eager to enter war if human lives of their own country wouldn't be on the line during the conflict.

On the other hand, maybe this isn't such a bad thing.  I mean, without the problem of our own people dying in conflicts, then warfare becomes a lot more straightforward.  We could crush an enemy without losing even one of our own men.

If we're still having problems with the Middle East by the time something like this is in place, I see a very short and dim future for Arabs.
But then the government has free reign to go around killing people. Do you really want our nation to be a killing machine, quite literally?
Well, I'll put it this way....  I get the impression our government will desire to kill people regardless of whether we have drones or not.  The military industrial complex runs our government, and I don't really see any way around that.

If we're stuck in a situation where we're going to go to war one way or another, we might as well do it in a way that kills less of our own citizens.

And yeah, I know this is a really dismal way of looking at it, but it seems true to reality....
RedTwizzler
I do it for the lulz.
+124|6841|Chicago

jonsimon wrote:

RedTwizzler wrote:

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

The drone army idea would be shit. Its hard enough to get a computer to complete facial recognition. How is it suppose to tell freind from foe, without being easily fooled? How can it properly hold a rifle for accuracy? How can it preform in a real world situation with sprinting and intense firefights? The human factor is way to important to leave out of any combat situation. and on the day that robots can do all of the things i listed above flawlessly, humanity will fall and the robots will rule
Exactly. Especially considering the warfare we have now doesn't contain 2 sides with different uniforms, it's almost impossible to fathom.
Wtf. We're not talking robots, we're talking UAVs and remote control.
"Drone army" implies mechanization of the military - Replacing infantrymen with machines.
Harmor
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RedTwizzler wrote:

"Drone army" implies mechanization of the military - Replacing infantrymen with machines.
You hit the nail on the head.
Harmor
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Turquoise wrote:

I think people would be more eager to enter war if human lives of their own country wouldn't be on the line during the conflict.

On the other hand, maybe this isn't such a bad thing.  I mean, without the problem of our own people dying in conflicts, then warfare becomes a lot more straightforward.  We could crush an enemy without losing even one of our own men.

If we're still having problems with the Middle East by the time something like this is in place, I see a very short and dim future for Arabs.
We will have the ability shortly to do this.  We can attack, but can't occupy anything without boots on the ground though.  We could have robots patrol our ships so we don't have to have so much of our Navy occupied with patrolling?

I was thinking that the U.S. could hire-out these robots when they aren't being used for shipping companies that go near the Eastern African coast, for example, where there are alot of pirates.


Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robots_in_warfare

But what's interesting is that we may be using robots for domestic security first:

Josh Fink brings news of an Atlanta resident who has created a remote control robot to scare off criminals during the night. Rufus Terrill, an engineer, uses it to patrol the streets and encourage drug dealers and other shady characters to move on. Local residents call it his "Robocop."

From CNN: "It's a barbecue smoker mounted on a three-wheeled scooter, and armed with an infrared camera, spotlight, loudspeaker and
aluminum water cannon that shoots a stream of icy water about 20 feet. Operated by remote control, the robot spotlights trespassers on property down the street from his bar, O'Terrill's. Using a walkie-talkie, Terrill belts out through the robot's loudspeaker, 'That's private property. You guys need to get out of here.'"
Source: http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl … p;from=rss
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6979|Canberra, AUS

Harmor wrote:

I'm all for the remote presence that is coming on-line soon. 

This is where I can goto my local military military base at 8am...control drones (trucks and planes remotely on the otherside of the world), and then come home by 6pm for dinner.

Its going to happen...sooner than you think.  There is a good series on the Military Channel called FutureWeapons. 


How would having a 'drone army' affect the way we conduct warfare?
Ah yes, that's a good show on Discovery Channel. I like it.

I would prefer the drones to have a support role. Recon of all kinds, maybe could act as a forward spotter, help place airstrikes more accurately (as drones can send precise electronic signals, rather than smoke. Although maybe smoke is fine...)

I can see a lot of good uses for drones without having to fit them with chainguns or missle launchers.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6718|Finland

I saw a prototype of drone armed with heavy caliber mg. Combine that with aimbot and heat vision and you got a winner. Especially in support. (no need to have real guy shooting with the mg etc.) That is controlled with a laptop and some other equipment. I wonder if the Army wants to hire leet gamers for some real fragfest
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Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6925|London, England
You'd probably see alot more tactical nukes, and even more eletromagnetic ones. And even more hax to ruin the drone army and make them teamkill each other, or reverse the controls of the operator! That's always a funny one
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6718|Finland

You guys who know what STALKER is will love the Exoskeleton suit for soldiers. It is designed to be the Armored Combat Suit for the Field Commanders in future battlefields. The rest of the troops are drones that are controlled elsewhere.
EMP and Railgun are the big things in future. US actually tested the EMP in Iraq and it worked very well. And Railgun is designed to replace the normal Tomahawk cruise missiles. (a lot cheaper ammonition, faster and has more impact energy).
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GC_PaNzerFIN
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Shocking
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it's too impractical. The infantryman will stay.

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