Mr.Pieeater
Member
+116|6622|Cherry Pie
I'm really sorry to hear about that bud, just remember everything happens for a reason and some things are just out of your control.  Any guy that is 20+ years old has been through what you are going through.  It stresses me out to even think of it!  I would feel the exact same way as you.  You can't threaten her back with divorce to scare her because you are scared she may actually want to do it.  And you can't tell her that guys look at porn without her thinking that she isn't attractive anymore and you need another woman to turn you on...  Its a vicsious cycle... 

If I were you I woudn't spend any more of your hard earned money on her than you have to...  But if you feel like things are getting really bad between her, you need to start researching some stuff.  You have to be VERY secretive about this but you may want to look into what a divorce would cost you and that kind of stuff...  This may be bad advice, but don't be taken advantage of by her because she won't hesitate to take advantage of you.  But like I said, you have to keep that kind of stuff a HUGE secret.  You need to see how much child support will be, how much she would possibly get from your house, etc...  I have also heard stories from ex-coworkers about how they said to their wife during a divorce "You can't have the car, the house, the boat, etc."  And then the wife told her lawyer she wanted that stuff.  Well, she ended up calling him and asking, "How I am suppose to pay for all of this stuff?"  As in the loans payments.  Fight back!  You have to, women have far too much power in the court system these days.  Haha, am I anti-woman or what.. LOL.

One of my favorite quotes is:
"You never know a woman until you've met her in court."  That is so true.  Granted I am only 23 years old, I have a feeling I won't be marrying anytime soon.  Through all of the experiences I have been through, it would take the most amazing woman in the world for me to tie the knot...  And even then I would get a prenup.  Thats just the way it is for us these days... Especially in my generation.  It sucks, but people just aren't satisfied with anything... 

In the end, if she is ever stressing you out, just think about your kids.  Think about how much you love them and how you should stay with her for the kids.  When they turn 18 and move out, you move out too...  Just keep making that money!  Also, put a little on the side for yourself that she doesn't know about.  That would be a smart idea.
FeedUsYourFetus
Member
+89|6450
Some women (ok, a lot of women) have this problem see.  They get everything they want in a man, and then they get lazy, and start to believe that all the responsibility for keeping the relationship in line rests on YOUR shoulders. 

YOU should go to work everyday, because dammit, if you don't you're not a good husband.
YOU should tell her every word she's been dying to hear, because dammit, if you don't you're not a good husband.
YOU should just shut up and listen when she's had a bad day and just needs to vent, because dammit, if you don't you're not a good husband.
YOU should know when she's tired of cooking, and take her out to a nice dinner, because dammit, if you don't you're not a good husband.
YOU should be willing to give up the intimacy, love, and reassurance of love making when she's put on a few pounds and doesn't feel sexy anymore, because dammit, if you don't you're not a good husband.

Sometimes it takes a big fat ass smack upside a woman's head (metaphorically speaking, don't beat your wife, it PROBABLY won't fix the issue, unless she likes that kinda thing) to realize everything that SHE has been doing wrong in the relationship.  Unfortunately, as the men, WE usually can't be the one to show them, because it falls on deaf ears coming from us.  They need to hear it from some female figure that they hold as a rolemodel (like a mother-in-law that actually thinks you're a good husband, and believes you're worth fighting for....*gasp*.....who has one of those?).

Now, this isn't to let YOU off the hook entirely.  Chances are you've been doing dumb, selfish shit in the relationship too.....but it also looks like at this point you are being the more introspective one and trying to figure out what you can do differently.

I don't care if you've never heard of Dr. Laura, or have, and hate her......buy the book "The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands" and give it to your wife.  Or, if you have a female in the family that you know she is close with, but also respects you, you can maybe convince THEM to give it to her (cause lets be honest, your wife will likely have a negative initial reaction to receiving such an item from you, because dammit, YOU are the bad husband).

And don't be afraid of marriage counselling.  You don't have to wait till things are beyond repair before going that route.....because then, things are BEYOND REPAIR.

KiL
comet241
Member
+164|6762|Normal, IL
It's just like she said: She thinks its dead, but hasn't mentioned a divorce

ie: she wants you to spice things up. she's not throwing in the towel yet, she obviously wants to work it out.

maybe shes sick of the routine. Maybe she wants some romance. Maybe she just wants to feel like it was when you were dating.

Show her how you truly feel about her. Take the kids off her hands sometime. Make a 'date' night every week or other week if  you have to. get some alone time with just her.

it seems to me she's reaching out to make it work. do just that.
rawls2
Mr. Bigglesworth
+89|6558
Sounds weird but take her to a strip club and tell her you want her to get a lap dance. Most places accomodate couples. If she's down man it will really spice things up.
chittydog
less busy
+586|6833|Kubra, Damn it!

That really sucks, man. I don't have any new advice to give you, most of the guys here have already said anything I would have to say. Some of them have said it damn well too. You may want to skip rawls2's stripclub suggestion, though.

Good luck, we're all pulling for you here and hope things work out.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6443|The Land of Scott Walker
Thanks for the moral support, everybody. 

Rawls, in my situation if I attempted to take her to a strip club, you'd either see me in chalk on the evening news or I'd be walking around with bag of frozen peas cradling my balls after the swift kick.   She's pretty open-minded when it comes to sex, but that only goes so far.
jamesb
Joined BF2s in November 2005
+133|6721|Doncaster, England
I haven't read every ones replies, so I don't know if this has been said.

You said your daughter is now 7 months.
It is possible your wife has post natal depression.

I have seen this first hand, it happened to me.
In the end we found out what it was too late.
She decided she no longer wanted or needed me, so after living like this for a while I left.

It affects women in all different ways, this may be one way.

I don't know how you approach the subject with her, but try to get some help before it's too late.

By the time my ex worked it out, I had already started again.
We have now been together for 11 years.

Again, good luck...
SEREMAKER
BABYMAKIN EXPERT √
+2,187|6566|Mountains of NC

jamesb wrote:

You said your daughter is now 7 months.
It is possible your wife has post natal depression.
good point .................. I forgot about that
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too_money2007
Member
+145|6306|Keller, Tx
Tell her divorce isn't very Christian of her... that should work.

But, seriously, I'm sorry to hear it. My wife just quit her job to be a stay at home mom (only 3 more weeks or so until he's here!!!) and if she tried to pull that kinda shit with me, I'd go crazy. She's probably just extremely bored with taking care of the kids 24/7. So like others have said, go on a trip or something.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6443|The Land of Scott Walker
I was not aware post partum lasted that long.  My understanding was that is was a short-term thing.  I'm going to do some research on this after work.

too_money2007 wrote:

She's probably just extremely bored with taking care of the kids 24/7. So like others have said, go on a trip or something.
Possibly, but she uses the kids as an excuse not to do anything.  Yes, the kids do require some effort to look after their needs, but the house needs attention, too.  Hopefully our trip next week and some time alone will improve things.

Last edited by Stingray24 (2007-04-12 14:04:46)

rawls2
Mr. Bigglesworth
+89|6558

Stingray24 wrote:

Thanks for the moral support, everybody. 

Rawls, in my situation if I attempted to take her to a strip club, you'd either see me in chalk on the evening news or I'd be walking around with bag of frozen peas cradling my balls after the swift kick.   She's pretty open-minded when it comes to sex, but that only goes so far.
lol, I read about it in one of those Cosmo magazines. After reading what others said I have to agree about the post partum stuff. IMO, a tight family is what really makes the world go around.  I hope it all works out.
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|6714
the fact that she said its dead means whe wants to fix it but she has no clue how to... Women and men sometimes get to a point in a relationship where they think that a new person or thing in their life will make everything ok... the grass is greener syndrome...

  You need to be attentive without smothering and just listen... listen... she will tell you whats wrong... dont try to figure her out... On a side note does she take any medication or drink alcohol?
Love is the answer
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6443|The Land of Scott Walker
Nope, no meds and only drinks when we go out to dinner.

Last edited by Stingray24 (2007-04-12 15:56:56)

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