ATG
Banned
+5,233|6740|Global Command
Rap is garbage. Rap tends to be self racism ( if your, erm, black that is ). It demeans your culture.


It may be a art form in that it requires talent to produce, but it is glorification of gun crimes and violence. All women are Hoes and all black men are Niggas.


Tony Blair is one guy that is getting it right;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/sto … 48,00.html
Tony Blair yesterday claimed the spate of knife and gun murders in London was not being caused by poverty, but a distinctive black culture. His remarks angered community leaders, who accused him of ignorance and failing to provide support for black-led efforts to tackle the problem.

One accused him of misunderstanding the advice he had been given on the issue at a Downing Street summit.

Black community leaders reacted after Mr Blair said the recent violence should not be treated as part of a general crime wave, but as specific to black youth. He said people had to drop their political correctness and recognise that the violence would not be stopped "by pretending it is not young black kids doing it".


Bill Cosby has made gazillions entertaining all colors of Americans for 30+ years.
In recent times he said this;

"Network executives never did understand what made our show work," Cosby says. "Although they wanted things like that in their own executive homes — a wife who works and children doing well in school — that's not what they wanted to put into the homes of the American people.

"They wanted (The Simpsons') Bart Simpson and were telling people, 'Yeah, this is a hip person, this is the kind of kid you want to love.' And Married with Children, let's lower the standards and talk back to your parents. There was this whole run of ridding TV of our kind of family and getting on with the easy kind to lure those 13-year-olds right into 8 o'clock."

When he asked blacks to shrug of using the " N " word and stop glorifying violence he was shit on.

And speaking of shit, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson got it flowing through their veins. They are racist bastards and every time they are put on television as " African American Leaders " that leadership remains a laughingstock.

Fire Don Imus, fine, who cares. Keep calling each other niggas, thats a lot worse.
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|6977|Cambridge (UK)
Wasn't there something related to this topic recently to do with one of your 'shock jocks' and some comments about members of a basketball team?

Is that who Don Imus is?

Anyhoo - I kind of agree with you and I don't - I think the 'N' word is like a lot of other words used to label other minorities which are then 'reclaimed' by that minority and turned round to be used not as a word of intolerance but as a word of pride. The homosexual/lesbian community and words like 'gay' and 'queer', even the word 'lesbian' itself, for example.

What I don't get is the self-reinforcement of negative stereotypes. 'Ho', the glorification of the 'gangsta' lifestyle and so on. Is it any wonder that afro-caribbean blacks are feared by the anglo-saxon and other communities in both the US and UK when this is the self-image that is promoted by many afro-caribbean black rap stars?

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2007-04-11 19:02:56)

Wreckognize
Member
+294|6696
I think the main problem is poverty.  Youth in the ghettos can relate to rappers and what their singing about, and they see that the rappers are rich, wear expensive clothes, drive expensive cars, so they emulate this behavior.  Throw in the fact that the only real moneymaker in the ghetto is illegal activities, and this produces youth crime.
Miller
IT'S MILLER TIME!
+271|6966|United States of America
I blame the parents, or lack thereof.
Mitch
16 more years
+877|6736|South Florida

ATG wrote:

Rap is garbage. Rap tends to be self racism ( if your, erm, black that is ). It demeans your culture.


It may be a art form in that it requires talent to produce, but it is glorification of gun crimes and violence. All women are Hoes and all black men are Niggas.


Tony Blair is one guy that is getting it right;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/sto … 48,00.html
Tony Blair yesterday claimed the spate of knife and gun murders in London was not being caused by poverty, but a distinctive black culture. His remarks angered community leaders, who accused him of ignorance and failing to provide support for black-led efforts to tackle the problem.

One accused him of misunderstanding the advice he had been given on the issue at a Downing Street summit.

Black community leaders reacted after Mr Blair said the recent violence should not be treated as part of a general crime wave, but as specific to black youth. He said people had to drop their political correctness and recognise that the violence would not be stopped "by pretending it is not young black kids doing it".


Bill Cosby has made gazillions entertaining all colors of Americans for 30+ years.
In recent times he said this;

"Network executives never did understand what made our show work," Cosby says. "Although they wanted things like that in their own executive homes — a wife who works and children doing well in school — that's not what they wanted to put into the homes of the American people.

"They wanted (The Simpsons') Bart Simpson and were telling people, 'Yeah, this is a hip person, this is the kind of kid you want to love.' And Married with Children, let's lower the standards and talk back to your parents. There was this whole run of ridding TV of our kind of family and getting on with the easy kind to lure those 13-year-olds right into 8 o'clock."

When he asked blacks to shrug of using the " N " word and stop glorifying violence he was shit on.

And speaking of shit, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson got it flowing through their veins. They are racist bastards and every time they are put on television as " African American Leaders " that leadership remains a laughingstock.

Fire Don Imus, fine, who cares. Keep calling each other niggas, thats a lot worse.
Of coarse the "Niggas" are the base of the crime. Because the nowadays gangsters are black. Im NOT being racist, im being honest. Now, if your a friendly black person who works hard and is nice, then i love you. But if your a gangster you need to be pwned.
15 more years! 15 more years!
CoronadoSEAL
pics or it didn't happen
+207|6729|USA
agreed-
also, i believe black 'artists' have forgotten where they come from.  they need to remember old school R&B and soul music;  they need to make their music for the people- become innovators of sound.  i doubt little richard/fats domino set out to put spinners on their "iced out" escalade.  they loved music; they loved making music.  as soon as today's black artists make meaningful music for the people, i will listen to what they have to say.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6740|Global Command

Dezerteagal5 wrote:

ATG wrote:

Rap is garbage. Rap tends to be self racism ( if your, erm, black that is ). It demeans your culture.


It may be a art form in that it requires talent to produce, but it is glorification of gun crimes and violence. All women are Hoes and all black men are Niggas.


Tony Blair is one guy that is getting it right;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/sto … 48,00.html
Tony Blair yesterday claimed the spate of knife and gun murders in London was not being caused by poverty, but a distinctive black culture. His remarks angered community leaders, who accused him of ignorance and failing to provide support for black-led efforts to tackle the problem.

One accused him of misunderstanding the advice he had been given on the issue at a Downing Street summit.

Black community leaders reacted after Mr Blair said the recent violence should not be treated as part of a general crime wave, but as specific to black youth. He said people had to drop their political correctness and recognise that the violence would not be stopped "by pretending it is not young black kids doing it".


Bill Cosby has made gazillions entertaining all colors of Americans for 30+ years.
In recent times he said this;

"Network executives never did understand what made our show work," Cosby says. "Although they wanted things like that in their own executive homes — a wife who works and children doing well in school — that's not what they wanted to put into the homes of the American people.

"They wanted (The Simpsons') Bart Simpson and were telling people, 'Yeah, this is a hip person, this is the kind of kid you want to love.' And Married with Children, let's lower the standards and talk back to your parents. There was this whole run of ridding TV of our kind of family and getting on with the easy kind to lure those 13-year-olds right into 8 o'clock."

When he asked blacks to shrug of using the " N " word and stop glorifying violence he was shit on.

And speaking of shit, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson got it flowing through their veins. They are racist bastards and every time they are put on television as " African American Leaders " that leadership remains a laughingstock.

Fire Don Imus, fine, who cares. Keep calling each other niggas, thats a lot worse.
Of coarse the "Niggas" are the base of the crime. Because the nowadays gangsters are black. Im NOT being racist, im being honest. Now, if your a friendly black person who works hard and is nice, then i love you. But if your a gangster you need to be pwned.
Christ man, thats like three time today.

It's course, not coarse, unless you speak of the grit on sand paper.
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|6977|Cambridge (UK)

ATG wrote:

Dezerteagal5 wrote:

Of coarse the "Niggas" are the base of the crime. Because the nowadays gangsters are black. Im NOT being racist, im being honest. Now, if your a friendly black person who works hard and is nice, then i love you. But if your a gangster you need to be pwned.
Christ man, thats like three time today.

It's course, not coarse, unless you speak of the grit on sand paper.
"that's", "times" and "sand-paper" ("sandpaper" is also acceptable).

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2007-04-11 19:31:23)

Miller
IT'S MILLER TIME!
+271|6966|United States of America

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

ATG wrote:

Dezerteagal5 wrote:

Of coarse the "Niggas" are the base of the crime. Because the nowadays gangsters are black. Im NOT being racist, im being honest. Now, if your a friendly black person who works hard and is nice, then i love you. But if your a gangster you need to be pwned.
Christ man, thats like three time today.

It's course, not coarse, unless you speak of the grit on sand paper.
"that's", "times", and "sand-paper".
TheOneAndOnlyX
Banned
+36|6585|Florida, USA
I'm moving to England.
Miller
IT'S MILLER TIME!
+271|6966|United States of America

TheOneAndOnlyX wrote:

I'm moving to England.
Don't, they'll take your guns away, if you have any...
TheOneAndOnlyX
Banned
+36|6585|Florida, USA

Miller wrote:

TheOneAndOnlyX wrote:

I'm moving to England.
Don't, they'll take your guns away, if you have any...
Then where do all the home dogs get their shiz?
-=CB=-krazykarl
not always PWD, but usually.
+95|6747|Carlsbad, CA, USA

TheOneAndOnlyX wrote:

Miller wrote:

TheOneAndOnlyX wrote:

I'm moving to England.
Don't, they'll take your guns away, if you have any...
Then where do all the home dogs get their shiz?
from the niggaz
Miller
IT'S MILLER TIME!
+271|6966|United States of America

TheOneAndOnlyX wrote:

Miller wrote:

TheOneAndOnlyX wrote:

I'm moving to England.
Don't, they'll take your guns away, if you have any...
Then where do all the home dogs get their shiz?
Illegally. There is interenet... black market... stuff along those lines...
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|6977|Cambridge (UK)

TheOneAndOnlyX wrote:

Miller wrote:

TheOneAndOnlyX wrote:

I'm moving to England.
Don't, they'll take your guns away, if you have any...
Then where do all the home dogs get their shiz?
Nottingham.
-=CB=-krazykarl
not always PWD, but usually.
+95|6747|Carlsbad, CA, USA

Miller wrote:

TheOneAndOnlyX wrote:

Miller wrote:


Don't, they'll take your guns away, if you have any...
Then where do all the home dogs get their shiz?
Illegally. There is interenet... black market... stuff along those lines...
see BLACK market, i told you!
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|6895|United States of America

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

TheOneAndOnlyX wrote:

Miller wrote:


Don't, they'll take your guns away, if you have any...
Then where do all the home dogs get their shiz?
Nottingham.
Where's the Sheriff thereof?
Miller
IT'S MILLER TIME!
+271|6966|United States of America

-=CB=-krazykarl wrote:

Miller wrote:

TheOneAndOnlyX wrote:

Then where do all the home dogs get their shiz?
Illegally. There is interenet... black market... stuff along those lines...
see BLACK market, i told you!
Fine, the Latino Market it is!
Yellowman03
Once Again, We Meet at Last
+108|6446|Texas

Miller wrote:

I blame the parents, or lack thereof.
agreed...my asian parents would whip me if i started rapping likez a gangsta

o man...here they come now!!!!
D6717C
Anger is a gift
+174|6844|Sin City

ATG that was the best fucking post I've read on here in a LONG time.
-=CB=-krazykarl
not always PWD, but usually.
+95|6747|Carlsbad, CA, USA

Miller wrote:

-=CB=-krazykarl wrote:

Miller wrote:


Illegally. There is interenet... black market... stuff along those lines...
see BLACK market, i told you!
Fine, the Latino Market it is!
damn beaners
-=CB=-krazykarl
not always PWD, but usually.
+95|6747|Carlsbad, CA, USA

D6717C wrote:

ATG that was the best fucking post I've read on here in a LONG time.
i agree, its nice to come back after a while, and see why i came in the first place.
Miller
IT'S MILLER TIME!
+271|6966|United States of America

-=CB=-krazykarl wrote:

D6717C wrote:

ATG that was the best fucking post I've read on here in a LONG time.
i agree, its nice to come back after a while, and see why i came in the first place.
Too bad ATG left
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6977|UK

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

TheOneAndOnlyX wrote:

Miller wrote:


Don't, they'll take your guns away, if you have any...
Then where do all the home dogs get their shiz?
Nottingham.
lol yup. Most gun crime in the UK and i go to uni there. We get 50 shootings a year.
Jibbles
Rifle Expert
+56|6840|Mexifornia, USA
I always find it funny that black people can say basically anything they want to white people. For example, "What's up cracka!", "Sup white boy", "Look at this white muthafucka", and basically stuff along those lines. But for a white person to even THINK not to mention SAY something back at them like "yeah, well fuck you nigger" is beyond belief, and would so deeply offend the blacks that called him a "cracka" and such that they would have full confidence, just from that ONE statement, which is basically equivalent to the one they said, that this white person was not only a racist but a white supremacist. Then someone like Don Imus comes along, says ONE phrase about "black people" (two of the Rutger's womens basketball players, including the team leader, are white), and now he's a racist! It's all implied racism, meaning the statement itself is not or is not meant to be racist, but black people take it as a racial slur. For another example, if Don Imus came on and said "That Rutgers womens basketball team - what a bunch of niggers." THAT would be racist (and innaccurate). Saying "nappy-headed hos" is NOT an anti-black statement. It has been taken that way because of the way the black community acts and speaks. It's almost like the beginning of the word "nigga" finding it's way into white people's mouths. But what do, or what should, blacks expect when those words or phrases are all over TV, radio, stores, games - you name it. The more exposure something "cool" has to the public, the more it grows, and the more people strive to look, act, or have whatever that "cool" characteristic or thing is, including the whites. The black community needs a big wake up call. They themselves often fuel the "race war" between whites and blacks, by assuming EVERY white person is a racist. Things like this "hos" comment would be anything but looked down upon if it was a line in a rap song. ANYONE who has EVER heard a modern rap song knows this. I wouldn't be surprised if it WAS an EXACT line out of a popular modern rap song.

The point is, the race war is most likely never going to end. The thing black people don't seem to understand (at large) is that yeah, we fucked up. We used you as slaves. We're sorry. But when black people want "an end to racism", they need to stop treating white people today like WE, the white people alive today, are still oppressing them. WE'RE NOT. And as for this womens basketball team, learn to take a joke. You dont need to go make a press conference because of some old radio hosts joke. This political correctness needs to either calm down, or be equally applying to all races, cultures, and creeds. If you disagree with anything I say, keep it to yourself, or at least dont expect a reply from me, because I probably wont be in this topic again.

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