tthf
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mikeshw wrote:

Bernadictus wrote:

mikeshw wrote:

now that the new MacBook Pros are out, i m thinking of upgrading my G4 P-P-P-P-Powerbook. Any of you have got experiences wwith the matt and hi-gloss screen. My work is largely graphic and cad-based. What is the recommendation?
I would advice the 17" top model. Maybe a bit more expensive but very powerfull.
Thanks! But any of you guys out there who actually own a MacBook with a glossy screen? Just need some feedback about it since my G4 has a native matt screen.

And, yes, going to buy the 17" with 4Gb of RAM
lies lies lies!
xBlackPantherx
Grow up, or die
+142|6793|California

tthf wrote:

mikeshw wrote:

Bernadictus wrote:

I would advice the 17" top model. Maybe a bit more expensive but very powerfull.
Thanks! But any of you guys out there who actually own a MacBook with a glossy screen? Just need some feedback about it since my G4 has a native matt screen.

And, yes, going to buy the 17" with 4Gb of RAM
lies lies lies!
You sould get the new 4 core duo (8 cores) Mac G5? Tower and tell how fucking amazing it is.

This is what you can trip it out to be (the Mac Tower Computer [8-core])

Both Bluetooth 2.0+EDR and AirPort Extreme
Apple Keyboard and Mighty Mouse - U.S. English
750GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
750GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
One 16x SuperDrive
Accessory kit
Two 3.0GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
16GB (8 x 2GB) of RAM
750GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
Mac OS X - U.S. English
750GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 512MB, Stereo 3D (2 x dual-link DVI)

Last edited by xBlackPantherx (2007-06-11 06:32:37)

tthf
Member 5307
+210|7207|06-01

xBlackPantherx wrote:

tthf wrote:

mikeshw wrote:


Thanks! But any of you guys out there who actually own a MacBook with a glossy screen? Just need some feedback about it since my G4 has a native matt screen.

And, yes, going to buy the 17" with 4Gb of RAM
lies lies lies!
You sould get the new 4 core duo (8 cores) Mac G5? Tower and tell how fucking amazing it is.

This is what you can trip it out to be (the Mac Tower Computer [8-core])

Both Bluetooth 2.0+EDR and AirPort Extreme
Apple Keyboard and Mighty Mouse - U.S. English
750GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
750GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
One 16x SuperDrive
Accessory kit
Two 3.0GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
16GB (8 x 2GB) of RAM
750GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
Mac OS X - U.S. English
750GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 512MB, Stereo 3D (2 x dual-link DVI)
my office just got 1 of the shiney new quad cores...
so tempted to load bf2 into it and go back to the office over the weekend.....
xBlackPantherx
Grow up, or die
+142|6793|California

tthf wrote:

xBlackPantherx wrote:

tthf wrote:


lies lies lies!
You sould get the new 4 core duo (8 cores) Mac G5? Tower and tell how fucking amazing it is.

This is what you can trip it out to be (the Mac Tower Computer [8-core])

Both Bluetooth 2.0+EDR and AirPort Extreme
Apple Keyboard and Mighty Mouse - U.S. English
750GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
750GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
One 16x SuperDrive
Accessory kit
Two 3.0GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
16GB (8 x 2GB) of RAM
750GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
Mac OS X - U.S. English
750GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 512MB, Stereo 3D (2 x dual-link DVI)
my office just got 1 of the shiney new quad cores...
so tempted to load bf2 into it and go back to the office over the weekend.....
Don't tell where you work, I AM gonna go over there and load bf2 onto it. You will find me playing BF2 with 5 Monster/RedBull cans on the desk when you come into work on monday.
xBlackPantherx
Grow up, or die
+142|6793|California

xBlackPantherx wrote:

I fucking love you EA and Steve Jobs

Teh Shexy EA News wrote:

Electronic Arts (EA), the video and computer game publisher behind some of today’s most popular games, has announced its direct support for the
Macintosh. The company will begin releasing Mac versions of some of its biggest games beginning in July.
ADVERTISEMENT

Taking the keynote stage with Apple CEO
Steve Jobs, EA co-founder and Chief Creative Officer Bing Gordon told attendees of this week’s Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) that EA would return to the Macintosh beginning in July with four of its most popular franchises: Command and Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars, Battlefield 2142, Need for Speed Carbon and
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. In August, EA will ship Madden NFL 08 and Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08.

The plan is for EA to release the Macintosh versions of all of these games simultaneously with their PC and console counterparts, said EA spokesperson Tammy Schachter.

“We want to capitalize on the marketing momentum for these games,” said Schechter. That’s a distinctly different approach than in the past, where EA has licensed out Macintosh versions of the games to Mac-specific publishers, like Aspyr Media.

Almost all of these games have some kind of proven history on the Macintosh: Command and Conquer made a recent appearance on the Mac via an Aspyr port, as have past versions of the Battlefield, Harry Potter, Madden and Tiger Woods franchises. Need for Speed Carbon is brand new to the Macintosh, however — it’s the latest edition of the popular street racing game series, in which you and your crew must race in an all-out war for the city, winning territory one block at a time by testing your racing prowess in an increasingly challenging ladder of performance cars, muscle cars and exotics.

Bypassing PowerPC systems

While a Mac-centric publisher can efficiently code games for the Mac and take the burden of publishing and marketing on themselves, they usually lose that critical marketing momentum. Most often, months or a year or more will pass before the game is ready for Mac customers. By then, many consumers have lost interest or have purchased the game for another platform, such as a video game console.

In order to manage a simultaneous release, EA is working with TransGaming Technologies, developers of Cider, a technology which enables Windows games to run on Intel-based Macs. Cider has already been used to bring forth Macintosh conversions of games including Myst Online: Uru Live, Heroes of Might & Magic V, X3: Reunion and the forthcoming release of EVE Online, a massively multiplayer role play game set in outer space.

Cider uses an abstraction layer similar to other Mac
OS X-to-Windows “virtualization” products like CrossOver from Codeweavers or Parallels Desktop for Mac. But unlike Parallels, Cider doesn’t require a separate Windows partition or “virtual machine” to be installed — the application looks and acts like a Mac app.

This is a very different approach than a native Mac game port, where the game’s source code is rewritten to run natively on the Macintosh platform. That approach is much more time-consuming, but in this case means the difference between EA’s new Mac game being able to work on PowerPC-based Macs or being limited to Intel-based Macs instead. The EA titles will run only on Intel-based Macs.

EA and Aspyr to continue working together

Schachter said that the growing influence of the Macintosh market was key to EA’s decision to bring its first games to Mac OS X. “Our own EA employees are very passionate about the Mac,” she said, echoing comments made by Gordon during his keynote speech.

While these titles mark the first time EA has published its own games for Mac OS X, EA’s hardly a stranger to the platform — the company has worked behind the scenes for years with Mac publisher Aspyr Media to bring its top games to the Macintosh. Much of Aspyr’s A-list Mac game library can be traced back to licensing deals it’s struck with EA.

Fortunately, it doesn’t appear that this latest move is going to erode that relationship — at least not entirely. Schechter said that EA will continue its relationship with Aspyr Media going forward. EA and Aspyr will continue to partner together to bring forth Macintosh versions of The Sims games and add-ons, she said.
Jagexx
Member
+1|6619
YES hell YES.

Last edited by Jagexx (2007-06-13 10:19:59)

Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|7187

W00t!

https://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1950/photo3jg3.jpg

Shiny. *Notices reflection of iSight*
jkg1389
The Sound Of Silence
+9|6915
How do I enlarge the size of a disk image so that I can load an entire game on to it. So I can play without putting in the disk
xBlackPantherx
Grow up, or die
+142|6793|California

jkg1389 wrote:

How do I enlarge the size of a disk image so that I can load an entire game on to it. So I can play without putting in the disk
If it says, "Please put in [insert game name here] disk." Then chances are you can't "load entire game" onto the disk. You HAVE to have the disk in there to run. Just like Battlefield. (<-----If theres a way you don't have to have the CD in to run Battlefield, PLEASE tell me.)
Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|7187

jkg1389 wrote:

How do I enlarge the size of a disk image so that I can load an entire game on to it. So I can play without putting in the disk
That makes absolutely no sense. Could you please rephrase that?
xBlackPantherx
Grow up, or die
+142|6793|California
JUST IN:

I have found a way to get bf2 to run WITHOUT the CD IN the COMPUTER to run it. PM for details.
fitz8402
Member
+10|7060|The Halls of Montezuma

xBlackPantherx wrote:

jkg1389 wrote:

How do I enlarge the size of a disk image so that I can load an entire game on to it. So I can play without putting in the disk
If it says, "Please put in [insert game name here] disk." Then chances are you can't "load entire game" onto the disk. You HAVE to have the disk in there to run. Just like Battlefield. (<-----If theres a way you don't have to have the CD in to run Battlefield, PLEASE tell me.)
I never have the disk in when I play.  I would tell you what to download but I am guessing that is against the rules?  If its not let me know and I would be more than happy to tell you.  It only takes a few minutes to set up and dramatically improves load times.
jkg1389
The Sound Of Silence
+9|6915
Ok I'm rephrasing a prior post. I'm using SuperDuper cloner to load a disk onto my hard drive so I can run a game without a disk. SuperDuper allows me to download to a disk image. However, about halfway through, it stops, citing lack of space as the reason. I need to make the disk image capable of holding more data. How?
Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|7187

jkg1389 wrote:

Ok I'm rephrasing a prior post. I'm using SuperDuper cloner to load a disk onto my hard drive so I can run a game without a disk. SuperDuper allows me to download to a disk image. However, about halfway through, it stops, citing lack of space as the reason. I need to make the disk image capable of holding more data. How?
The Image is a clone of your CD. I think this has something todo with your overal disk space of your main hard-drives.
Remember, the program needs room for the temp. files and the image itself.!
B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|7291|Cologne, Germany

after a couple of weeks with the new MacBook, I have to admit that if you have never used a computer before, OS X is not easier to use than Windows.

the documentation provided with the MacBook is laughable at best, if not outright ridiculous. There is no real manual, just a small booklet telling you how to clean the thing, switch it on and off and some warnings with regard to overheating and general use.

One of the worst let-downs ? Installing applications. The whole thing with the image that you have to draw here and there and then drag it into the trashcan is way too complicated. And it isn't even in the manual. While installing, there is no way to tell where the file actually goes ( except that it must be somewhere on the hard disk ).

how does one set up file systems on the HD ? How do I defrag the HD ? Is that even necessary ?  No idea.

Keyboard shortcuts. Essential for the Mac user. Not provided with the manual. I couldn't even find a complete list for OS X online. This is my personal opinion only. My GF, who I bought the MacBook as a birthday present, says it is easy to use, but she hasn't done much more than surf the web and play music on it. I installed all the applications, and set up the internet connection, not without some hassle, I might add. she could never have done it herself. If I wouldn't have told her how, she wouldn't even have been able to eject the CD from the drive after playing it.

it is pretty fast, I'll give you that, and it boots like a rocket. Great connectivity, too. But that's nothing a state-of-the-art Windows laptop can't do either these days.

All in all, I draw the same conclusion as I did with windows computers. You have to be willing to invest time to get to know the system. hours. days. weeks.

granted, maybe I am biased. For all of my computing life, I have used windows OS's. Maybe it is the essential differences in the way the two OS's do things that irritate me. Nevertheless, it is not as easy to use as the Mac fanboys are quick to assure you.

And no, the Mac help is not much better than windows help.
xBlackPantherx
Grow up, or die
+142|6793|California

B.Schuss wrote:

after a couple of weeks with the new MacBook, I have to admit that if you have never used a computer before, OS X is not easier to use than Windows.

the documentation provided with the MacBook is laughable at best, if not outright ridiculous. There is no real manual, just a small booklet telling you how to clean the thing, switch it on and off and some warnings with regard to overheating and general use.

One of the worst let-downs ? Installing applications. The whole thing with the image that you have to draw here and there and then drag it into the trashcan is way too complicated. And it isn't even in the manual. While installing, there is no way to tell where the file actually goes ( except that it must be somewhere on the hard disk ).

how does one set up file systems on the HD ? How do I defrag the HD ? Is that even necessary ?  No idea.

Keyboard shortcuts. Essential for the Mac user. Not provided with the manual. I couldn't even find a complete list for OS X online. This is my personal opinion only. My GF, who I bought the MacBook as a birthday present, says it is easy to use, but she hasn't done much more than surf the web and play music on it. I installed all the applications, and set up the internet connection, not without some hassle, I might add. she could never have done it herself. If I wouldn't have told her how, she wouldn't even have been able to eject the CD from the drive after playing it.

it is pretty fast, I'll give you that, and it boots like a rocket. Great connectivity, too. But that's nothing a state-of-the-art Windows laptop can't do either these days.

All in all, I draw the same conclusion as I did with windows computers. You have to be willing to invest time to get to know the system. hours. days. weeks.

granted, maybe I am biased. For all of my computing life, I have used windows OS's. Maybe it is the essential differences in the way the two OS's do things that irritate me. Nevertheless, it is not as easy to use as the Mac fanboys are quick to assure you.

And no, the Mac help is not much better than windows help.
You do realize that the thread is called, "Ask a Mac'r. Answer to all things Macintosh/Apple Related." not, "Bitch to a Mac'r. And anything else related."

The reason it has a small booklet is because you don't need a fatass one. I don't have a flying fuck what your talking about with the drawing, and installing as all the shit to delete it. It always tells you where to install it. Internet is remarkably easy to set up. I just found the correct internet setting (a bunch of wireless networks here) and clicked it. Installing applications is as simple as pressing install. Unless you need CD keys and everything. Chances are you're just not doing things right or arent familiar with the setup. First time I used a Mac, at about the age of 6, I figured it out within a half an hour.
B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|7291|Cologne, Germany

no reason to get unfriendly, Panther. Hotheaded, huh ? No wonder your note reads that ..

and in case you are wondering, I did write this because this MacBook has been the topic of much debate between me and Bernadictus before I bought it, and afterwards. Yes, in this very thread. If you plan to contribute, I suggest you do so in a constructive manner, if not, don't bother.

I did mention some good points, mind you, but from what I can tell, it has nothing that a windows based laptop of comparable size and power can't do. And considering Apple products aren't cheap, is a decent manual really too much to ask ?

BlackPanther wrote:

,....Chances are you're just not doing things right or arent familiar with the setup. First time I used a Mac, at about the age of 6, I figured it out within a half an hour...
oh, so you're a genius, huh ? able to operate a Mac at the age of 6 ? wow, I am impressed. you may add 1 inch to your e-penis....

but you mentioned a good point, nonetheless. If you are a new user, it takes just as much time to familiarize yourself with the system as it would on a standard windows pc. With the exception that - with a windows pc - one has not to deal with elitist apple fanboys that look down on those who utter the slightest word of criticism.

My GF has never had a personal computer of her own. This MacBook is her first laptop. Her knowledge about PC's is limited to switching it on and off, opening the browser, checking mail and open text attachments here and there. She has no knowledge about networks, internet connection setup, user accounts, system preferences, drag and drop, etc....you get the idea ? good.

Now tell me this: are you really 100% sure that someone like her, without even the most basic knowledge about the workings of modern personal computers, would find it easier to operate a Mac than regular windows-based PC ? you gotta be kidding me.

Last night, we were browsing the web, each at his own house. She wanted me to check out a web page she found interesting.
So I said "well, copy the URL and mail it to me". She couldn't even do that. Instead, she proceeded to spell the adress out for me, letter by letter.
And believe me, she is smart. But she has no affinity to technology. 

I'll be honest here. I knew she wanted a Mac, because being the girl she is, she has always found the design of MacBooks appealing. The little illuminated apple logo was particularly cute, if I remember correctly. The technical features of the system didn't interest here. So, when the question which laptop to buy for her birthday came up, I agreed to get her the MacBook, with the idea in my mind not only to get her a good working tool for college, but also with a slight hope to find out for myself what the fuss about Mac's and OS X was all about.

It was an experiment, to find out if someone totally new to the world of laptops and operating systems would be able to successfully operate the Mac as quickly as I was told by apple enthusiasts. My personal conclusion is pretty obvious.

The next chapter in this saga will come once the 30-day-trial version of Word for Mac that she currently uses for college papers runs out ( it came with the mac ). I have donwloaded open office, but after reading through the installation FAQ for Mac, I am 100% positive she will never be able to install it alone. X11, anyone ?

My bottom line: looks good, quite stable, but pricy, and really not much easier to operate than modern windows OS, like Vista.

why do you think Apple did even bother to release bootcamp and parallels ? Because they have realized that windows is catching up to them, as far as performance and stability are concerned, and they need to make sure that ordinary people ( not the fanboys, they'll buy anything with an apple logo on it ) are being motivated to buy their products. 5 years ago, the idea that apple would put out a product that would allow windows users to install windows OS on a Mac would have been blasphemy. Now, it's reality. my 2 c.
xBlackPantherx
Grow up, or die
+142|6793|California

B.Schuss wrote:

no reason to get unfriendly, Panther. Hotheaded, huh ? No wonder your note reads that <---What??[/b] ..

and in case you are wondering, I did write this because this MacBook has been the topic of much debate between me and Bernadictus before I bought it, and afterwards. Yes, in this very thread. If you plan to contribute, I suggest you do so in a constructive manner<---Read post[/b], if not, don't bother.

I did mention some good points, mind you, but from what I can tell, it has nothing that a windows based laptop of comparable size and power can't do. And considering Apple products aren't cheap, is a decent manual really too much to ask ?

BlackPanther wrote:

,....Chances are you're just not doing things right or arent familiar with the setup. First time I used a Mac, at about the age of 6, I figured it out within a half an hour...
<---Read post
oh, so you're a genius, huh ? able to operate a Mac at the age of 6 ? wow, I am impressed. you may add 1 inch to your e-penis.... <---Woah there cowboy, no need to get hasty.

but you mentioned a good point, nonetheless. If you are a new user, it takes just as much time to familiarize yourself with the system as it would on a standard windows pc. With the exception that - with a windows pc - one has not to deal with elitist apple fanboys that look down on those who utter the slightest word of criticism.

My GF has never had a personal computer of her own. This MacBook is her first laptop. Her knowledge about PC's is limited to switching it on and off, opening the browser, checking mail and open text attachments here and there. She has no knowledge about networks, internet connection setup, user accounts, system preferences, drag and drop, etc....you get the idea ? good. <---Lol

Now tell me this: are you really 100% sure that someone like her, without even the most basic knowledge about the workings of modern personal computers, would find it easier to operate a Mac than regular windows-based PC ? <---How so?

Last night, we were browsing the web, each at his own house. She wanted me to check out a web page she found interesting.
So I said "well, copy the URL and mail it to me". She couldn't even do that. Instead, she proceeded to spell the address out for me, letter by letter.
And believe me, she is smart. But she has no affinity to technology.  <---Lol

I'll be honest here. I knew she wanted a Mac, because being the girl she is, she has always found the design of MacBooks appealing. The little illuminated apple logo was particularly cute, if I remember correctly. The technical features of the system didn't interest here. So, when the question which laptop to buy for her birthday came up, I agreed to get her the MacBook, with the idea in my mind not only to get her a good working tool for college, but also with a slight hope to find out for myself what the fuss about Mac's and OS X was all about.

It was an experiment, to find out if someone totally new to the world of laptops and operating systems would be able to successfully operate the Mac as quickly as I was told by apple enthusiasts. My personal conclusion is pretty obvious.

The next chapter in this saga will come once the 30-day-trial version of Word for Mac that she currently uses for college papers runs out ( it came with the mac ). I have donwloaded open office, but after reading through the installation FAQ for Mac, I am 100% positive she will never be able to install it alone. X11, anyone ?

My bottom line: looks good, quite stable, but pricy <---I'll agree there, but PC's are only cheaper because everyone makes it., and really not much easier to operate than modern windows OS, like Vista. <---I'd rather take XP over Vista

why do you think Apple did even bother to release bootcamp and parallels ? Because they have realized that windows is catching up to them, as far as performance and stability are concerned, and they need to make sure that ordinary people (not the fanboys, they'll buy anything with an apple logo on it )<---Again, lets not get hasty. are being motivated to buy their products. 5 years ago, the idea that apple would put out a product that would allow windows users to install windows OS on a Mac would have been blasphemy. Now, it's reality. my 2 c. <---They released it so you dont have to buy a PC that crashes a lot. Also, they didn't release Parallels. I think a PC company did, I just know Parallels isn't an Apple product
I wasn't getting hotheaded, just tired (like 3.30 AM when I wrote). I worded that wrong. My point was to say that after using a PC for so long, the Mac Setup and organizing can be a little confusing, and vice versa. We used to have a PC desktop and then we got ALL Macs. It was only a couple of years before we put windows onto a Mac partition and I had already forgotten its organization and setup. Sorry if that came off the wrong way.

PS. Read the quote if you haven't already.

Last edited by xBlackPantherx (2007-07-25 11:22:42)

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