unnamednewbie13
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Sometimes I think about how Americans get nervous about things like guns being on government file. If the government wanted to take our guns, where would they even start? With what personnel? What's the absurd number of guns per American again? Literally throw a dart at a residential map, assume there's a gun in whatever household it lands on. With zero records we could theoretically just round up the guns that way.

People should be more concerned about social media than registries and the DoL.
Dilbert_X
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People don't have a problem adding crazy stuff to their eternal electronic footprint, but don't want the gubmint to know they own a gun.
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Cybargs
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Obviously they needed all those guns and ammunition for the area spiders. (slash-s)
There’s a lot of feral animals and other pests in the bush that you need guns for.
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SuperJail Warden
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Opening line from an article I couldn't believe.

"The Seward County Homeland Security task force, sometimes using the controversial practice of civil asset forfeiture, seized $11.8 million from Interstate 80 drivers through civil and criminal forfeiture in its first 32 months."

Places really do this? The cops are highway bandits? I almost never interact with police in the metro area I live in. This seems strange.
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pirana6
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Is that that stretch of highway where the cops use that rule where you can take anything you want and not give it back? But like to an ultra-extreme?


I heard if you drive through that highway, basically have nothing in your car or on your person. Nothing above $5 cash or worth more than $10 besides the car itself.
unnamednewbie13
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Civil forfeiture has been a controversial and criticized-for-corruption thing for a long time.

In other cop news:

‘The Goon Squad’ (self-named): How six Mississippi officers tried to cover up horrific torture of 2 Black men
https://missoulian.com/news/nation-worl … cc2e2.html

I wonder if the police ever fixed Afroman's door? I should check on that.
unnamednewbie13
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could have also put this in the race thread (re: "racism is over and no longer a factor in people's lives") or the trump thread tbh:

https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/stat … 56609?s=20
https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/ant … ayor-says/

A sweeping investigation began in early 2022 as a narrow probe into officers who allegedly cheated on college tests to obtain salary raises. FBI agents dug into the cheating scandal and opened a “Pandora’s Box” of unethical and criminal behavior among officers, a source told KRON4.
talk about overturning rocks. stripping wallpaper only to discover the rot goes all the way into the foundation.



"45 out of 100 officers"
"field goal kicked his head"

hollis? hollis?

unnamednewbie13
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i wonder what hollis thinks the value of a 2623yo is.

Investigation launched into tape of Seattle police guild leaders downplaying death of woman struck by officer
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-ne … cer/?amp=1

Auderer, VP SP Officers Guild wrote:

But she is dead. *laugh* No, it's a regular person. [video cut] Yeah, just write a check. Just … yeah *laugh* Eleven thousand dollars. She was 26 anyway, she had limited value.
Auderer acknowledged his role in the investigation as an impairment recognition officer but said the conversation was “private” and meant to be part of his duties as a SPOG representative, according to what Jason Rantz, a conservative KTTH talk-show host, described as a self-reported complaint to Seattle’s Office of Police Accountability.

According to KTTH, Auderer reported Solan “lamented” the young woman’s death during their initial conversation, Auderer’s half of which is recorded on the body camera, and said it was unfortunate her death would “turn into lawyers arguing ‘the value of human life.’ ”

“I responded with something like: ‘She’s 26 years old. What value is there? Who cares?’ I intended the comment as a mockery of lawyers,” Auderer reported, according to KTTH. “I laughed at the ridiculousness of how these incidents are litigated and the ridiculousness of how I watched these incidents play out as two parties bargain over a tragedy.”

Auderer acknowledged, according to KTTH, that anyone listening to the body-camera recording “would rightfully believe I was being insensitive to the loss of human life.”

He reported the comment “was not made with malice or a hard heart.”
I could see someone making a comment like that in bitter sarcasm mocking how these things normally go. Rings less true here, for some reason.
Dilbert_X
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The phenomenon of people taking on the Police with nothing more than an iphone is an interesting one.



Every cop should have a bodycam on all the time

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unnamednewbie13
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Here's another one of these with some police department sketch.



Police fatally shot her husband after they went to the wrong house — then detained her for hours
Kim Dotson has sued the city of Farmington, N.M., and the three officers who fired.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fa … rcna105152
older link - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/vi … -rcna79848

The wife of an armed New Mexico homeowner whom police officers fatally shot when they went to the wrong house on a domestic violence call said she was treated like a suspect, detained for hours and given few details about why officers gunned down her husband.

Months later, the Farmington Police Department still hasn’t reached out to Kim Dotson or her family since police killed Robert Dotson, 52, on April 5, she said.

She said in an interview Wednesday that she learned the officers had knocked on the wrong door that night only because her son is a police officer in the area and was able to read the dispatch log.

“I feel helpless the way all of this has happened,” said Dotson, 49, a former trauma nurse, who said she quit the profession after she tended to her husband when he was shot multiple times in the doorway of their home.
From the older link:

Robert Dotson was killed after police in Farmington, New Mexico, said he opened the door late April 5 with a handgun. Officer responding to a call were at the wrong address.
So not 100% blameless looked at through the lens of common sense, but it shouldn't have happened. I would urge every armed person to not go playing Rambo, poking around their property with firearm visibly in hand for precisely reasons like this incident.

Still doesn't excuse the incommunicativeness.
Dilbert_X
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Yes, probably don't open your door holding a loaded gun.

Either don't open the door but hold your loaded gun, or check who is outside and if its the police don't open your door holding a loaded gun.

I'm fairly sure a lot of these people are desperate to have something to post on a 2a forum about blowing away a home invader.
"Some guy rang my doorbell so I blew him away. God bless America" etc

Back in the beforetimes it was the 'righteous shootings' page of guns and ammo.
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https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout … p_educate/

Check out the Police Department's Facebook. Total shit show.
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No thoughts newbie?
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unnamednewbie13
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Ran into that elsewhere online. File under 'Ohio,' not much else to add. If you know you have crap police, I guess try the FBI.
Dilbert_X
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Police everywhere will follow the path of least resistance, however stupid it is.
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Spokane County Sheriff’s deputy placed on leave after video surfaces of him bloodying 62-year-old man
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2023/ … leave-aft/

Three minutes later, the deputy yanked Hinton out of his car by his legs and hit him multiple times while ripping his shirt and knocking out his false teeth. The violent arrest left Hinton with eight broken ribs, a punctured lung, severe concussion, shoulder injury and a disfigured lip, according to attorneys he hired, Tim Note and Josh Maurer.
Medics were called to the scene but cleared Hinton to be booked into the Spokane County Jail, according to Note. However, jail staff refused to book Hinton and he was instead taken to an area hospital, Note said.
Medics cleared him for jail. Jail sent him to the hospital.

Aside from the obvious commentary on police violence, I don't think enough is said about the sometimes callous (or in this case, what I'll just go ahead and call complicity) behavior of other emergency services. Medics cleared a man with a "severe concussion," among other injuries. The medics should answer for this too. Read around for some nightmare anecdotes about ambulance people. Some bad culture in that job as well.

The jail people had more sense than the cops or medics.

wow.
SuperJail Warden
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I got a careless driving and some other ticket from the police. I got it in the mail. I don't remember disobeying the police. I wouldn't do that especially in front of my job. One ticket is 2 points even if I plead guilty and pay the fine.

I am going to talk to the cops that work at the school and see what they can do. If I don't get this dropped I will see about getting the union to complain that the cops are being aggressive with the teachers.

I don't mind being punished for wrongdoing but I didn't do this. This reminds me of the time I got pulled over, berated, and given a ticket by a cop for something I didn't do either. To top all of this off, the court date is 12/26. It messes with my holiday plans.
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DesertFox-
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What the hell is careless driving?
unnamednewbie13
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DesertFox- wrote:

What the hell is careless driving?
looking at a nj lawyer's site, looks like a neutered version of reckless driving. puts points on your license and can affect your insurance rate.

doesn't help that it's a driver's burden to get out of even a bs ticket. a lot of people could probably argue their way out of it, but i imagine weighing that against the dehumanizing inconvenience of court, they just pay up.

doesn't help that the cops will pull you over for some nonsense reason they'll easily concede, but then look for something else they can get you for. seriously: go touch grass, officers.

why do we have to hope the guy's not having a bad day when we get pulled over? that shouldn't change the job's procedure.
SuperJail Warden
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DesertFox- wrote:

What the hell is careless driving?
$85 and 2 points on your insurance.

What happens is: you will go to court. The court will ask if you want a public defender. The public defender will ask if you want to plea to a lesser charge: unsafe driving. The public defender will then go to the judge and "talk" to him about your plea deal. The court will drop the careless driving charge and you will plea to the unsafe driving one. The unsafe driving charge doesn't have points but will cost you more money in fines.

Basically it is a scam to pressure you into paying a higher fine to the court.

Newbie wrote:

doesn't help that it's a driver's burden to get out of even a bs ticket.
I actually talked to my girlfriend about this. She was like "in America you are innocent until proven guilty. The court has to prove you..." I had to stop her and explain that it doesn't work that way in practice. She really doesn't comprehend that in America the police largely do what they want and society generally sides against the accused.
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Dilbert_X
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

To top all of this off, the court date is 12/26. It messes with my holiday plans.
Thats literally three years away, worry about it then.

You should be thankful they didn't taze you and shoot you, if you'd looked at them funny they'd have been within their rights.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2023-12-08 00:53:46)

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War Man
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Dilbert_X wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

To top all of this off, the court date is 12/26. It messes with my holiday plans.
Thats literally three years away, worry about it then.

You should be thankful they didn't taze you and shoot you, if you'd looked at them funny they'd have been within their rights.
I think he means December 26
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unnamednewbie13
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There's something particularly vindictive and even personal about scheduling around a major holiday for something stupid like a traffic thing that doesn't even meet the standards of reckless driving. You'd think mac had tagged the court building or something.
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How do we know that isn't what happened
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