ATG
Banned
+5,233|6814|Global Command
As a whole, elected officials fail to do their jobs. The best we could insist on is mandatory term limits. In reality, those in power are so firmly entrenched that only armed conflict will end the cycle of national destruction we are in.
Iran, for example, like the U.S. is engaged in foreign adventures the people do not support. China and Russia
are equally as guilty, as is Syria and many others.
The citizens of the Earth do not want war.

Among the charges one could level against george Bush:



The Bush Whitehouse has violated or ignored 750 laws, including military regs, affirmative action, immigration. whistleblower protections.

They have authorized indefinite detention for U.S. and foreign persons

Authorized the leaks of classified information.

Violation of seperation of church and state laws via discrimation against gays and religious based policy.

Failure to prevent death and suffering following hurricane Katrina.

Crimes against Humanity  http://www.bushcommission.org/?q=node/22   http://whatreallyhappened.com/aboutoil.htm

Neglect and failure to enforce immigration policy.


I would refer you to this.




According to the annual survey by the Berlin-based organization Transparency International, Finland, Iceland, and New Zealand are perceived to be the world's least corrupt countries, and Haiti is perceived to be the most corrupt. The index defines corruption as the abuse of public office for private gain and measures the degree to which corruption is perceived to exist among a country's public officials and politicians. It is a composite index, drawing on 12 polls and surveys from 9 independent institutions, which gathered the opinions of businesspeople and country analysts. Only 163 of the world's 193 countries are included in the survey, due to an absence of reliable data from the remaining countries. The scores range from ten (squeaky clean) to zero (highly corrupt). A score of 5.0 is the number Transparency International considers the borderline figure distinguishing countries that do and do not have a serious corruption problem.

Countries that have significantly improved their rating since the 2005 index were Algeria, Czech Republic, India, Japan, Latvia, Lebanon, Mauritius, Paraguay, Slovenia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, and Uruguay. Some of the countries that have a significantly worse rating since 2005 include Brazil, Cuba, Israel, Jordan, Laos, Seychelles, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, and the United States. Because inclusion in the index requires at least three sources Afghanistan, Fiji, Liberia, Palestine, and Somalia, with only two sources in 2006, were not included.
Here is the complete corruption index, from least  to most:
Country
rank     Country     2006
CPI Score
1.    Finland     9.6
    Iceland     9.6
    New Zealand     9.6
4.    Denmark     9.5
5.    Singapore     9.4
6.    Sweden     9.2
7.    Switzerland     9.1
8.    Norway     8.8
9.    Australia     8.7
    Netherlands     8.7
11.    Austria     8.6
    Luxembourg     8.6
    United Kingdom     8.6
14.    Canada     8.5
15.    Hong Kong     8.3
16.    Germany     8.0
17.    Japan     7.6
18.    France     7.4
    Ireland     7.4
20.    Belgium     7.3
    Chile     7.3
    USA     7.3
23.    Spain     6.8
24.    Barbados     6.7
    Estonia     6.7
26.    Macao     6.6
    Portugal     6.6
28.    Malta     6.4
    Slovenia     6.4
    Uruguay     6.4
31.    United Arab Emirates     6.2
32.    Bhutan     6.0
    Qatar     6.0
34.    Israel     5.9
    Taiwan     5.9
36.    Bahrain     5.7
37.    Botswana     5.6
    Cyprus     5.6
39.    Oman     5.4
40.    Jordan     5.3
41.    Hungary     5.2
42.    Mauritius     5.1
    South Korea     5.1
44.    Malaysia     5.0
45.    Italy     4.9
46.    Czech Republic     4.8
    Kuwait     4.8
    Lithuania     4.8
49.    Latvia     4.7
    Slovakia     4.7
51.    South Africa     4.6
    Tunisia     4.6
53.    Dominica     4.5
54.    Greece     4.4
55.    Costa Rica     4.1
    Namibia     4.1
57.    Bulgaria     4.0
    El Salvador     4.0
59.    Colombia     3.9
60.    Turkey     3.8
61.    Jamaica     3.7
    Poland     3.7
63.    Lebanon     3.6
    Seychelles     3.6
    Thailand     3.6
66.    Belize     3.5
    Cuba     3.5
    Grenada     3.5
69.    Croatia     3.4
70.    Brazil     3.3
    China     3.3
    Egypt     3.3
    Ghana     3.3
    India     3.3
    Mexico     3.3
    Peru     3.3
    Saudi Arabia     3.3
    Senegal     3.3
79.    Burkina Faso     3.2
    Lesotho     3.2
    Moldova     3.2
    Morocco     3.2
    Trinidad and Tobago     3.2
84.    Algeria     3.1
    Madagascar     3.1
    Mauritania     3.1
    Panama     3.1
    Romania     3.1
    Sri Lanka     3.1
90.    Gabon     3.0
    Serbia     3.0
    Suriname     3.0
93.    Argentina     2.9
    Armenia     2.9
    Bosnia and Herzgegovina     2.9
    Eritrea     2.9
    Syria     2.9
    Tanzania     2.9
99.    Dominican Republic     2.8
    Georgia     2.8
    Mali     2.8
    Mongolia     2.8
    Mozambique     2.8
    Ukraine     2.8
105.    Bolivia     2.7
    Iran     2.7
    Libya     2.7
    Macedonia     2.7
    Malawi     2.7
    Uganda     2.7
111.    Albania     2.6
    Guatemala     2.6
    Kazakhstan     2.6
    Laos     2.6
    Nicaragua     2.6
    Paraguay     2.6
    Timor-Leste     2.6
    Viet Nam     2.6
    Yemen     2.6
    Zambia     2.6
121.    Benin     2.5
    Gambia     2.5
    Guyana     2.5
    Honduras     2.5
    Nepal     2.5
    Phillipines     2.5
    Russia     2.5
    Rwanda     2.5
    Swaziland     2.5
130.    Azerbaijan     2.4
    Burundi     2.4
    Central African Republic     2.4
    Ethiopia     2.4
    Indonesia     2.4
    Papua New Guinea     2.4
    Togo     2.4
    Zimbabwe     2.4
138.    Cameroon     2.3
    Ecuador     2.3
    Niger     2.3
    Venezuela     2.3
142.    Angola     2.2
    Congo, Republic     2.2
    Kenya     2.2
    Kyrgyzstan     2.2
    Nigeria     2.2
    Pakistan     2.2
    Sierra Leone     2.2
    Tajikistan     2.2
    Turkmenistan     2.2
151.    Belarus     2.1
    Cambodia     2.1
    Côte d´Ivoire     2.1
    Equatorial Guinea     2.1
    Uzbekistan     2.1
156.    Bangladesh     2.0
    Chad     2.0
    Congo, Democratic Republic     2.0
    Sudan     2.0
160.    Guinea     1.9
    Iraq     1.9
    Myanmar     1.9
163.    Haiti     1.8

Corruption usually manifests itself as selective enforcement of laws and " taking from the till." It can be as extreme as hoarding food during a starvation, to knowingly allowing drugs and infiltrators across a border to allow big businesses to use cheap labor.

In Africa the worst examples are human slavery.  Corruption is usually the cause of starvation as evil people interfere with care groups trying to help. Corruption is what causes American manufactures to buy good produced in China where labor is rice cheap and enviromental regulations are almost non-existant.

I work in the metal business. China buys almost all scrap metal yielded from the U.S. . Shredded steel, copper and aluminum are loaded into shipping containers where sea going foundry ships re-smelts the metal and cast it into ingots. They load garbage metal in the U.S. and unload raw materials for Chinese factories. Ever wonder why Chinese drill bits are garbage and always break?

That drill bit was once a Ford F150 truck.

My issue is that these ships pollute madly and the quality of all the goods is garbage. They are resold in American markets by Walmart and Home Depot at costs that drive both U.S. manufactures and small resalers out of business.

Sowing the seeds of war?

http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/bwi … nflict.htm

Last edited by ATG (2007-03-30 18:08:40)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6886|132 and Bush

ATG I'm concerned, are you depressed? I detect a feeling of hopelessness.

https://i3.tinypic.com/482oeac.gif

Last edited by Kmarion (2007-03-30 11:54:38)

Xbone Stormsurgezz
Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|6938
why hasn't anyone taken a shot at bush? seriously, why haven't they? the chances are there
https://i.imgur.com/HTmoH.jpg
topal63
. . .
+533|7003

Kmarion wrote:

ATG I'm concerned, are you depressed? I detect a feeling of hopelessness.

http://i3.tinypic.com/482oeac.gif
For some reason that t-shirt reminds me of Glen Beck, and the statement, that of the Lilliputian of gloom: “We're doomed, we'll never make it, we're all gonna die! ”

Last edited by topal63 (2007-03-30 12:09:21)

CannonFodder11b
Purple Heart Recipient
+73|6974|Fort Lewis WA
Wow ATG you ok bud?

Someone give ATG a hug.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6886|132 and Bush

topal63 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

ATG I'm concerned, are you depressed? I detect a feeling of hopelessness.

http://i3.tinypic.com/482oeac.gif
For some reason that t-shirt reminds me of Glen Beck, and the statement, that of the Lilliputian of gloom: “We're doomed, we'll never make it, we're all gonna die! ”
That's his logo in the middle.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
topal63
. . .
+533|7003

Kmarion wrote:

topal63 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

ATG I'm concerned, are you depressed? I detect a feeling of hopelessness.

http://i3.tinypic.com/482oeac.gif
For some reason that t-shirt reminds me of Glen Beck, and the statement, that of the Lilliputian of gloom: “We're doomed, we'll never make it, we're all gonna die! ”
That's his logo in the middle.
I rarely watch his show, yet I remembered it, LOL, it's like a bio-hazard, hazardous-waste symbol, radiation! Avoid, avoid, avoid ... panic .... panic, how ironic - as a t-shirt it makes total sense...
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6730|The Land of Scott Walker
Affirmative action?  Violate away, it’s stupid.  It's been taken so far that now pasty white boys like me need affirmative action so a less-qualified "minority" doesn't get the job first.

Violation of separation of church and state laws?  Sorry, no such law. 

Discrimation against gays? Uh, no.  Gays have more rights than anyone else in this country.  They get rights just based off of how they like to get their sex.

Katrina? Pfff, look to the stupid governor of Louisiana and the genius mayor of New Orleans first.

Immigration?  No argument there, however GWB is no different than the presidents before him.  None of them have properly addressed that issue.  Too hot come election time.

Rehash the Iraq war again?  Boring. 

Oh and Sarge discussing the assassination of a sitting President is not usually a good idea.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6886|132 and Bush

topal63 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

topal63 wrote:

For some reason that t-shirt reminds me of Glen Beck, and the statement, that of the Lilliputian of gloom: “We're doomed, we'll never make it, we're all gonna die! ”
That's his logo in the middle.
I rarely watch his show, yet I remembered it, LOL, it's like a bio-hazard, hazardous-waste symbol, radiation! Avoid, avoid, avoid ... panic .... panic, how ironic - as a t-shirt it makes total sense...
Yes he often talks about the "perfect storm".
http://www.glennbeck.com/perfectstorm/index.shtml
Xbone Stormsurgezz
paranoid101
Ambitious but Rubbish
+540|7025

SargeV1.4 wrote:

why hasn't anyone taken a shot at bush? seriously, why haven't they? the chances are there
Have to be hell of a Sniper to get him in the brain.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6934

Stingray24 wrote:

Oh and Sarge discussing the assassination of a sitting President is not usually a good idea.
Why? I don't believe the FBI has any jurisdiction in the Netherlands.
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7051|Cambridge (UK)

CannonFodder11b wrote:

Wow ATG you ok bud?

Someone give ATG a hug.
He's ok. He's just seeing things clearly.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6730|The Land of Scott Walker

ghettoperson wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Oh and Sarge discussing the assassination of a sitting President is not usually a good idea.
Why? I don't believe the FBI has any jurisdiction in the Netherlands.
I was not aware Sarge was from Europe.
UON
Junglist Massive
+223|6938

ghettoperson wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Oh and Sarge discussing the assassination of a sitting President is not usually a good idea.
Why? I don't believe the FBI has any jurisdiction in the Netherlands.
Maybe he was referring to the fact that the FBI, CIA and NSA are a bunch of fucking criminals who don't care if they have jurisdiction or not
RoosterCantrell
Goodbye :)
+399|6765|Somewhere else

ghettoperson wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Oh and Sarge discussing the assassination of a sitting President is not usually a good idea.
Why? I don't believe the FBI has any jurisdiction in the Netherlands.
Not.....yet.
duranddurad
Member
+1|6523
ATG we all LISTENED attentively to your....speech.....but i mean do u now want us to just SWALLOW all that information without giving it some thought?

I agree that the Bush Administration has not done the best job possible. They played on the fear the people of the US had in order to stay in power and through the use of publicity "made it evident" that a "war against terror" ,i believe they called it, was necessary in order to eliminate terrorists as well as Osama bin Laden. But apart from screwing up a country more than it was and sentencing American troops to their deaths the Iraq war has not stopped terrorism or caught Osama bin Laden.


Its more than time that bush retired and lived a life as happy as he can make it after all of his mistakes!

Last edited by duranddurad (2007-03-30 14:37:04)

Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6690|North Carolina

UON wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Oh and Sarge discussing the assassination of a sitting President is not usually a good idea.
Why? I don't believe the FBI has any jurisdiction in the Netherlands.
Maybe he was referring to the fact that the FBI, CIA and NSA are a bunch of fucking criminals who don't care if they have jurisdiction or not
True dat...  lol
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6778|Connecticut

Stingray24 wrote:

Affirmative action?  Violate away, it’s stupid.  It's been taken so far that now pasty white boys like me need affirmative action so a less-qualified "minority" doesn't get the job first.

Violation of separation of church and state laws?  Sorry, no such law. 

Discrimation against gays? Uh, no.  Gays have more rights than anyone else in this country.  They get rights just based off of how they like to get their sex.

Katrina? Pfff, look to the stupid governor of Louisiana and the genius mayor of New Orleans first.

Immigration?  No argument there, however GWB is no different than the presidents before him.  None of them have properly addressed that issue.  Too hot come election time.
lol, true... I wish I was an athiest, homosexual, minority immigrant stuck in New Orleans with a well paying job I received from affirmative action.
Malloy must go
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6690|North Carolina

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Affirmative action?  Violate away, it’s stupid.  It's been taken so far that now pasty white boys like me need affirmative action so a less-qualified "minority" doesn't get the job first.

Violation of separation of church and state laws?  Sorry, no such law. 

Discrimation against gays? Uh, no.  Gays have more rights than anyone else in this country.  They get rights just based off of how they like to get their sex.

Katrina? Pfff, look to the stupid governor of Louisiana and the genius mayor of New Orleans first.

Immigration?  No argument there, however GWB is no different than the presidents before him.  None of them have properly addressed that issue.  Too hot come election time.
lol, true... I wish I was an athiest, homosexual, minority immigrant stuck in New Orleans with a well paying job I received from affirmative action.
Becoming an atheist isn't that hard.  Just look around....

By the way, you have to be careful who you mention your lack of religion to when you live in the Bible Belt.  Down here, it's almost as controversial as being gay....

Still, I would agree that affirmative action is bullshit.  Also, I'm not one of those atheists that makes a big deal about the 10 Commandments being in some courthouses.  Plenty of atheists are rational about the separation of church and state.  You just don't hear about them, because they're not attention whores....
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6814|Global Command
Op updated.
Reciprocity
Member
+721|6866|the dank(super) side of Oregon
I've been screaming about PNAC for nearly 7 years now.  it was  their belief that a "new pearl harbor" was necessary and acceptable as a means of establishing a new axis of evil in lieu of the Soviet Union, securing foreign energy resources, stimulating American nationalism, and reinvigorating the military industrial complex.  Many members of PNAC went on to become prominent officials in the Bush administration.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6814|Global Command
Sorry, I deleted that part, but you are right for shouting about that nest of vipers.
Major_Spittle
Banned
+276|6940|United States of America
Does this mean you are now a Democrat?

Geee Double Yah is from a town with a saying that goes like this:

"Fool me once shame on you; a fool don't fool again......." 

Its a small town with poor articulation and people who don't give a shit about America and put their own greed ahead of the country's.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6814|Global Command

Major_Spittle wrote:

Does this mean you are now a Democrat?

Geee Double Yah is from a town with a saying that goes like this:

"Fool me once shame on you; a fool don't fool again......." 

Its a small town with poor articulation and people who don't give a shit about America and put their own greed ahead of the country's.
It means that I no longer consider myself either.

I didn't leave America, America left me.


I'm no anarchist either.

In following " parts " I shall reveal my solution for a one world government By The People and For The People.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6690|North Carolina

ATG wrote:

Major_Spittle wrote:

Does this mean you are now a Democrat?

Geee Double Yah is from a town with a saying that goes like this:

"Fool me once shame on you; a fool don't fool again......." 

Its a small town with poor articulation and people who don't give a shit about America and put their own greed ahead of the country's.
It means that I no longer consider myself either.

I didn't leave America, America left me.


I'm no anarchist either.

In following " parts " I shall reveal my solution for a one world government By The People and For The People.
Whoa whoa whoa...  One world government...  fuck that.  Regional sovereignty is a GOOD thing.

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