My New World Order, Part One

2007-03-29 21:29:26

#26

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6695|North Carolina

Kmarion wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
I described the dependency in my first post. So I must agree. Don't confuse what we should do with what the reality of what we know is going to happen. The Chinese market will not be sacrificed by the business elite. Our only hope for them to start to address their human rights issue is from broad international pressure.
Well, what I mean is... I think more of the business elite will start to value the idea of trade diversity when the Chinese standard of living rises significantly. What began as cheap labor will eventually become less cost effective than Indian or Indonesian labor.

Even from a completely selfish point of view, we're probably going to see a shift of trade towards India and Indonesia.
Possibly. The reason China has gotten so much attention over these last few years in the shift in their trade policies. After thousands of years of Isolationism they have decided to come out and show themselves.

I think if I were to keep an eye on anyone right now it would be Putin. He has been doing some very erratic things lately.

This is from today. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070329/ap_ … s_russia_7
WASHINGTON - Russia has fully restored its espionage capabilities against the United States after a period of decline following the Cold War, a senior U.S. counterintelligence official said Thursday.

Hmmm... I agree... I will definitely keep an eye on this as it develops... Russia certainly has a lot of problems, and Putin is as scummy as they come.

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2007-03-29 21:34:28

#27

Eagle: Togs8896 is my evil alter ego; +567|6921|New Hampshire, USA

@ China and USA

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2007-03-29 21:50:45

#28

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7006

China doesn't have as good logistics as US. So no invasion

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2007-03-29 23:34:37

#29

Reciprocity: Member; +721|6871|the dank(super) side of Oregon

Pubic wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
I'd actually suggest we trade less with China and more with India and Indonesia.
I think India is a sleeping dragon, and will play a bigger global role in 20+ years time than most people realise.

in 20 years India will be begging the rest of the world for water and food as they combat famine and disease.

2007-03-30 02:03:37

#30

JahManRed: wank; +646|6918|IRELAND

ATG wrote:
May 7, 2009
Iran Strikes Israel With New Holocaust.
Iran delivered on it's long term goal and dealt a murderous blow to the State of Israel. Tens of thousands of innocents were annilated in a flash of 'holy' fire. The small warhead leveled large swaths of Tel Aviv, but does not pose a major threat to the region..

Not going to happen as long as the US is a credible military and nuclear power. Iran is silly not stupid.

ATG wrote:
May 10, 2009
Thousands of Pakistani troops pour across Kashmir.

Within hours New Delhi was a graveyard for millions and Islamabad became a slag heap burning white hot in a nuclear inferno.

Why would they bring on a nuclear Holocaust? The reason both countries have nukes is for Mutually assured destruction, so why would one nation commit suicide en-mass?

ATG wrote:
China invades the United States

Tens of thousands of tanks, jeeps and armored fighting vehicles poured forth from our ports and terminals following a series of EMP weapons discharges. Power, communications are gone. The Red Army had quietly imported 2 million combat troops to U.S. in shipping containers paid for by Walmart. Executives from the company who caught in a motorcade and torn limb from limb.

Chinese troops quickly set up mobil gas houses to dispatch of political unfriendlies and establishment relics..

China has no interest in spreading its territory to another Continent.........its logistically impossible anyway.

ATG wrote:
June 11, 2022
Mass beheadings in London as Sharia law takes effect.

With Her long time military supporter America now official disbanded as a nation and under joint control of the Socialist Forces of Venezuela and the Chinese army, citizens of England lined up for Islamic Court identification cards.
Those caught without cards or beards are executed the next day..

LOL, still harping on about the UK's 'Muslim' problem. We have a small group of extremists which the security forces have under control. This group of extremists is not even a fraction of the problems the UK had with the IRA which lasted 25 years. English people have not been forced to be catholics against their will and mass forced baptisms never took place!! So your time line of the UK being under Sharia law in 15 odd years is just pure sensationalism.

ATG wrote:
It doesn't have to be this way...but it will be if radical steps are not taken to over-throw and replace all the existing world governments..

The current world governments are certainly not out for the average joe anymore. Big business comes first. The rich looking after the rich..............its kinda like Communism gone wrong....you know?

ATG wrote:
Next...

The legal Case for the sacking of the U.S. Government, the arrest of George Bush and the beginning of the end of modern governments.

Looks like I might agree more with your next post. Seams it will take a nuclear war, a US invasion and the over throw of the UK government to get Bush impeached...............

2007-03-30 02:37:30

#31

TrollmeaT: Aspiring Objectivist; +492|6962|Colorado

I'm with you ATG , we can rebuild capitalism with the proper base & change the laws that conflict with an individuals rights.

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2007-03-30 03:30:45

#32

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6851

You have a vivid imagination, maybe you should try for a job in Hollywood.

2007-03-30 04:34:54

#33

PureFodder: Member; +225|6575

Will part two involve Jack Bauer?

2007-03-30 04:39:56

#34

PvtStPoK: paintball > bf2; +48|6804|montreal, quebec

ThomasMorgan wrote:
The scariest part about this...

...is within the next 10-20 years, China could potentially overthrow the US.

that would be awsome. USA might stop invading countries for oil after that.

2007-03-30 05:12:48

#35

Braddock: Agitator; +916|6580|Éire

Type up the screenplay ATG, I'll direct it...

Very entertaining, it sounds like the new concept album by Nine Inch Nails but in an opposite political direction. JahManRed and Kmarion have already articulted the reasons why such a chain of events wouldn't take place so I won't regurgitate what they've already said but on the issue of China hypothetically invading the United States it reminds me of a stand up routine by Al Murray ...do you guys even have enough bullets to take out the entire Red Army? They probably make the bullets, that would be an interesting phonecall:

"US Dept. of Defence: Hello China, we'd like to place an order for 4 million bullets please.

China: What do you want them for?

US Dept. of Defence: None of your business" ...click.

By the way...

Turquoise wrote:
I hope you realize that China has never been especially close to Pakistan or Iran.

Pakistan and China have been very friendly allies since 1951 and China is one of Pakistan's principal missile suppliers. The US has expressed concern over this in the past.

2007-03-30 05:23:18

#36

JahManRed: wank; +646|6918|IRELAND

BTW, don't let us put you off part two ATG, its all hypothetical and their is nothing wrong with exploring your perceptions of man kinds looming doom...........

2007-03-30 05:25:07

#37

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6851

What shits me, is for ages and ages he's perfectly reasonable and balanced, and then I vote him my favourite regular..............and then he pulls this shit.................I wanna switch my vote to CamPoe.

2007-03-30 05:29:07

#38

Braddock: Agitator; +916|6580|Éire

Bubbalo wrote:
What shits me, is for ages and ages he's perfectly reasonable and balanced, and then I vote him my favourite regular..............and then he pulls this shit.................I wanna switch my vote to CamPoe.

Just like real politics Bubbalo! They put on a public display to get in office then do what they please once they get in!

2007-03-30 05:47:26

#39

artofsurvival: Idiot!; +33|6647|the Great British Queendom :)

From me in the UK, I doubt very much that any English person would allow any kind of Religious rule here, been there done that and got the T-Shirts, maybe we have a problem in the UK with religion but thats what makes the UK what it is, acceptance and diversity! You have more of a chance if you know your enemy, let them come closer and learn, yes mistake will be made but that is how people learn, from mistake and not doing the same thing again! So I doubt that any country would really try or want to take over England anymore as it fucked up enough already :p
And I think that the majority of English, Welsh and Scottish, least not forgetting Irish People would have no problem with fighting a guerilla war should this Great Land ever be taken over. But I do speak for myself and for the people that agree with me, as of ages ago and the wars of old, English archers where told that once a battle was over to then go forth and kill wounded soldiers in the field, so we are as bad as the rest of world when it comes to wars, we just don't tell the world that we are doing this type of shit!!!!!!!!

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2007-03-30 05:51:09

#40

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6819|Global Command

Bubbalo wrote:
What shits me, is for ages and ages he's perfectly reasonable and balanced, and then I vote him my favourite regular..............and then he pulls this shit.................I wanna switch my vote to CamPoe.

Perfectly reasonable and balanced?

Who?

2007-03-30 06:58:03

#41

buttersIRL: Member; +17|6887

"citizens of England lined up for Islamic Court identification cards.
Those caught without cards or beards are executed the next day"
Hmm, .growing a beard in 1 night ? I like a challenge, the women and are screwed !

I like the way china invades the US, obviously unlikely, but a pure genius way of getting the all troops and armour there. they could be entrenched in lots of major cities before the US knew what hit them.

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2007-03-30 07:04:23

#42

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6911|London, England

It would all go very nuclear. Very quickly. You were on the right track with Pakistan and India, but how a Chinese invasion of the U.S wouldn't go nuclear in miliseconds is a mystery. Everybody would lose. Nobody wants to, we're never gonna get another war like WW2 and even if something like that was tried it would go nuclear and everyone would lose.

2007-03-30 07:31:13

#43

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6851

Braddock wrote:
Just like real politics Bubbalo! They put on a public display to get in office then do what they please once they get in!

Ooooh..........somebody just got owned, and I'm not sure who......................

ATG wrote:
Perfectly reasonable and balanced?

Who?

Why do you think I voted for you? Unlike lowing, you aren't a douchebag.

2007-03-30 07:41:36

#44

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6941|USA

Bubbalo wrote:
Braddock wrote:
Just like real politics Bubbalo! They put on a public display to get in office then do what they please once they get in!
Ooooh..........somebody just got owned, and I'm not sure who......................

ATG wrote:
Perfectly reasonable and balanced?

Who?
Why do you think I voted for you? Unlike lowing, you aren't a douchebag.

LOL......This coming from the guy that got a perm ban from the socialist mods???!!! Good thing you know how to grovel with such great effect, or you would not be posting such things under this name.

2007-03-30 07:49:08

#45

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6851

Uh-huh. Grovelling, that's what happened. Which is why, with no communication with me, the ban was revoked because most or all mods (including the one who had given it) decided it wasn't appropriate.

2007-03-30 07:55:29

#46

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6941|USA

Bubbalo wrote:
Uh-huh. Grovelling, that's what happened. Which is why, with no communication with me, the ban was revoked because most or all mods (including the one who had given it) decided it wasn't appropriate.

Sorry bub, I read your " limited apology". grovelling.

2007-03-30 07:56:33

#47

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6851

lowing wrote:
Bubbalo wrote:
Uh-huh. Grovelling, that's what happened. Which is why, with no communication with me, the ban was revoked because most or all mods (including the one who had given it) decided it wasn't appropriate.
Sorry bub, I read your " limited apology". grovelling.

Which was after the rescinding, closely followed by a temp-ban, and was not to the mods.

Regardless, I'm not going to be drawn into this. Think what you want, I'm done.

2007-03-30 08:00:15

#48

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6941|USA

Bubbalo wrote:
lowing wrote:
Bubbalo wrote:
Uh-huh. Grovelling, that's what happened. Which is why, with no communication with me, the ban was revoked because most or all mods (including the one who had given it) decided it wasn't appropriate.
Sorry bub, I read your " limited apology". grovelling.
Which was after the rescinding, closely followed by a temp-ban, and was not to the mods.

Regardless, I'm not going to be drawn into this. Think what you want, I'm done.

Hmmmm more "cut and run" philosophy, straight from the socialist playbook..

Yeah I think that would be best for you bubbalo.

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2007-03-30 08:17:51

#49

Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6735|The Land of Scott Walker

Turquoise wrote:
You want us to be the world's police, but our friendliness to China shows how little we really value human rights. This is why the human rights argument for removing Saddam is utter bullshit.

Hmmmm, we certainly do give China a pass on their human rights violations. Removing Saddam was quite a bit easier to accomplish than an attempt to change anything in China would be, though.

2007-03-30 08:19:37

#50

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6851

But it's not even that you don't invade. You act like best buddies half the time.

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