TuataraDude
Member
+115|6968|Aotearoa

chittydog wrote:

Isn't that the same pic superfly posted?
Yes, I do believe it is.
Blehm98
conservative hatemonger
+150|6909|meh-land
HIV is a virus that destroys the T cells in your immune system.  Thankfully it is not very virulent, and it can take anywhere from 6 months to years before you get any symptoms of having the virus, if you get it at all

AIDS is what happens once your white blood cell count is down to about 400, in which case the disease can be called 'advanced' and there is pretty much 100% chance that you won't fight off the virus. 
HIV = Human immunodeficiency virus
AIDS = Aquired ImmunoDeficiency syndrome
it is called a syndrome as it is a series of effects caused by prolonged infection by HIV
CannonFodder11b
Purple Heart Recipient
+73|7135|Fort Lewis WA

KnowMeByTrailOfDead wrote:

CannonFodder11b wrote:

AudioAtomica wrote:


Has the past 20 years gotten us anywhere?
Magic Johnson had HIV and was "supposedly" cured.
I think maybe there is a cure, but AIDs is being used as a population control.
I do not believe that is an accurate statement about Magic Johnson.
If you don't believe then go here:  http://www.sciencecases.org/aids/aids1.asp

Magic Johnson has worked with Dr. Michael Mellman, his personal physician for the past 20 years, to try to keep the virus under control using a combination of antiretroviral drugs.  This combination therapy is termed HAART or Highly Active Anti-Retroviral Therapy.  The "drug cocktails" that make up a HAART regimen combine the power of multiple drugs to block multiple targets in the HIV life cycle.  Central to Magic's therapy regimen is a drug called Combivir®, a combination of two drugs:  lamivudine and zidovudine, which are nucleoside reverse transcriptase inhibitors.  You may be familiar with zidovudine by another name, AZT.  HAART regimens can cost an average of $1,000 per month or more depending on the source and type of drugs administered.

Johnson was recently hired as a spokesperson for GlaxoSmithKline, the company that produces Combivir®.  The medication Magic Johnson takes is not a top secret magic bullet but rather a commercially available antiretroviral treatment.  Thus, the same medication that Magic Johnson takes to control his HIV infection is available to everyone who is HIV-positive.

Although Magic Johnson tested positive for HIV in 1991, his routine HIV tests show that his virus load is currently at undetectable levels and does not show AIDS-related symptoms.  Thus, Johnson is considered a non-progressor.  Many people who are non-progressors live with HIV without major health complications and their immune system seems to keep the virus under control.  Progressors are people who have uncontrollably high virus load levels and advance to AIDS quickly, usually within five years after infection.

What keeps Magic Johnson alive and symptom free? 

There you have it, thats all from the site above.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7212|UK

FeedUsYourFetus wrote:

Vilham wrote:

I understand how it works already... thanks for being a dick. You just basically repeated exactly what i said.
No, I DIDN'T.  Just keep reading what you wrote until you understand that you're wrong.  It doesn't "allow AIDS into your body."  That doesn't even make sense.  AIDS is not a tangible thing like HIV.  HIV is a virus.  AIDS is a state of health. 

KiL
ok i change the word "in" to "happen to".

That good enough for you..
norge
J-10 and a coke please
+18|6915

AudioAtomica wrote:

Hurricane wrote:

AudioAtomica wrote:


If it's known then show me PROOF. Un-Deniable Proof. Not some hypothesis or theory.
I haven't watched the videos, but is your stuff any more "un-deniable" than the past 20 years of research?
Has the past 20 years gotten us anywhere?
yes it has.  the technology and treatments we use today are lowering the rates of death by the thousands, and will continue to do so.  HIV does not 'cause' aids, but it is the 1 thing we have found to link to the cause of AIDS.   we know the chemistry and biology of the dieseases, and have concluded that one comes from the other.  so what if we dont got a fucking microscope good enough to actually see it happen, do u not believe other shit that science has proven?
Blehm98
conservative hatemonger
+150|6909|meh-land

norge wrote:

AudioAtomica wrote:

Hurricane wrote:


I haven't watched the videos, but is your stuff any more "un-deniable" than the past 20 years of research?
Has the past 20 years gotten us anywhere?
yes it has.  the technology and treatments we use today are lowering the rates of death by the thousands, and will continue to do so.  HIV does not 'cause' aids, but it is the 1 thing we have found to link to the cause of AIDS.   we know the chemistry and biology of the dieseases, and have concluded that one comes from the other.  so what if we dont got a fucking microscope good enough to actually see it happen, do u not believe other shit that science has proven?
AIDS is HIV...  there is absolutely no difference between the two, just AIDs mean that you have HIV and its winning over your immune system
agent146
Member
+127|6832|Jesus Land aka Canada
personally what i think the bottom line is this. .... you dont' want get either, hiv or aids.
FeedUsYourFetus
Member
+89|6898

Vilham wrote:

FeedUsYourFetus wrote:

Vilham wrote:

I understand how it works already... thanks for being a dick. You just basically repeated exactly what i said.
No, I DIDN'T.  Just keep reading what you wrote until you understand that you're wrong.  It doesn't "allow AIDS into your body."  That doesn't even make sense.  AIDS is not a tangible thing like HIV.  HIV is a virus.  AIDS is a state of health. 

KiL
ok i change the word "in" to "happen to".

That good enough for you..
If taken 100% literally, then your quote would be "....allow AIDS 'happen to'to your body."  Still doesn't make complete sense......but I DO understand what you mean.  Yes, HIV is the virus that allows AIDS to occur or 'happen to' you if untcontrolled.

KiL
BlAiR_AgaiN
Member
+12|6791|Slovenia
AIDS can take years to evolve from HIV (AIDS not being a disease or somethin like that), and most of people don't even know if they are suffering from it.
Is Slovenia we have approx. 100 people with HIV and 40 people in the AIDS stage. At least for now.

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