By poorly correlating a current event to a side show. I think its in bad taste - minimizing the suffering and complexity of the situation. That's my point.Konfusion0 wrote:
This isn't rocket science, you know? It's a hypothetical question of how you would react in real life.Pug wrote:
Well, I can't because you aren't being straight with us.sergeriver wrote:
You are you and your neighbor is some guy. Don't put labels and answer what you would do.
-konfusion
Poll
They steal your home: what would you do?
I would leave in silence | 3% | 3% - 4 | ||||
I would fight them and recover my home | 49% | 49% - 57 | ||||
I would ask the police to evict them | 39% | 39% - 46 | ||||
Other | 7% | 7% - 9 | ||||
Total: 116 |
Maybe it's silly and not subtle at all, but we can see how the D&ST regulars would act in the same situation.Bertster7 wrote:
This thread is silly. It's trying to be subtle in a far too obvious way. Nor is it particularly relevant to the situation in question which is immensely complex.
Obviously in this case you should call the police and have them evicted. But what do you do when the police turn up and tell you that they've decided that your neighbour is entitled to 70% of your house because he's had such bad luck recently and he has some friends in high places who have put a few good words in, despite the fact your neighbour has been throwing bricks at you to try and encourage you to leave.
Well im England, aslong as he hasnt squatted for 3 months you can have him kicked out.
Forget the analogies and answer what you would do.Pug wrote:
By poorly correlating a current event to a side show. I think its in bad taste - minimizing the suffering and complexity of the situation. That's my point.Konfusion0 wrote:
This isn't rocket science, you know? It's a hypothetical question of how you would react in real life.Pug wrote:
Well, I can't because you aren't being straight with us.
-konfusion
I'm surprised we seem to have so many would be vigilantes (from the response I would fight them and recover my home) in D&ST. It explains a lot.
So you're saying you'd actually wait, walk to the police, wait for them to come to your house, and evict the jackass, instead of just getting him out yourself?
-konfusion
-konfusion
Rather than posting a retalitory poll thread, how about this analogy:
You neighbor has shot at you before and has killed many of the people around you. You have asked the police to do something about it in the past, but they have not done anything. You believe you have met their demands in the past but every time you do so he has killed more people around you to your frustration. Now your neighbor has two of your family members held hostage and is making more demands. In the meantime, another neighbor kills your dog because you have not met the demands of the other neighbor. You can't go to the police because they have proven they will not do anything. You have a decision to make.
-Take things into your own hands
-Write off my family members
And you're decision is?
You will note that I did not include any additional information or any other items of revelance, because they are not important to the decision. Anything added would be generated by you, and therefore has no revelance. Plus you must answer the choices I provided, and I want to make sure to shape the question to conform to the result I'm looking for.
You neighbor has shot at you before and has killed many of the people around you. You have asked the police to do something about it in the past, but they have not done anything. You believe you have met their demands in the past but every time you do so he has killed more people around you to your frustration. Now your neighbor has two of your family members held hostage and is making more demands. In the meantime, another neighbor kills your dog because you have not met the demands of the other neighbor. You can't go to the police because they have proven they will not do anything. You have a decision to make.
-Take things into your own hands
-Write off my family members
And you're decision is?
You will note that I did not include any additional information or any other items of revelance, because they are not important to the decision. Anything added would be generated by you, and therefore has no revelance. Plus you must answer the choices I provided, and I want to make sure to shape the question to conform to the result I'm looking for.
Yes. Anything more than that and you're breaking the law yourself and descending to their level. I'd phone the police, let them know there are people in my house and tell them I want them gone now. Why put myself at risk, both of injury and prosecution, when that is what the police are there for. It is their job and to taking the law into your own hands is illegal.Konfusion0 wrote:
So you're saying you'd actually wait, walk to the police, wait for them to come to your house, and evict the jackass, instead of just getting him out yourself?
-konfusion
In that extremely unlikely hypothetical situation I would take matters into my own hands. But it's not exactly a relevant example to me.Pug wrote:
Rather than posting a retalitory poll thread, how about this analogy:
You neighbor has shot at you before and has killed many of the people around you. You have asked the police to do something about it in the past, but they have not done anything. You believe you have met their demands in the past but every time you do so he has killed more people around you to your frustration. Now your neighbor has two of your family members held hostage and is making more demands. In the meantime, another neighbor kills your dog because you have not met the demands of the other neighbor. You can't go to the police because they have proven they will not do anything. You have a decision to make.
-Take things into your own hands
-Write off my family members
And you're decision is?
You will note that I did not include any additional information or any other items of revelance, because they are not important to the decision. Anything added would be generated by you, and therefore has no revelance. Plus you must answer the choices I provided, and I want to make sure to shape the question to conform to the result I'm looking for.
I would see if Iran could send me some rockets and explosives. Then I would proceed to kill everyone on the block to show my disgust.sergeriver wrote:
You had a neighbor who left his home a few years ago. He got a good job and moved to another city. But he was fired. Now he is back and there's a Pakistani restaurant where his house used to be. So he decides to settle in your home while you were at work because he likes that block. He changes the keys, but he lets you stay in the backyard.
What would you do?
The point isn't the justification of the firing, the point is that the nature and persistence of the series of incidents that brought the neighbor back has a huge impact on how the question should be answered. "He was fired" minimizes both the nature and persistence.sergeriver wrote:
He was fired without justification, but you didn't fire him. And FYI the same company that fired him, fired my ancestors.san4 wrote:
By that do you mean he was murdered and his corpse was incinerated in a large oven built specifically for that purpose while all his neighbors stood by and did nothing?sergeriver wrote:
But he was fired.
How is that in any way relevant. It makes no difference what hardships your neighbour has been through, they may come into play when he is being tried after being arrested, but they would not be of any interest to me.san4 wrote:
The point isn't the justification of the firing, the point is that the nature and persistence of the series of incidents that brought the neighbor back has a huge impact on how the question should be answered. "He was fired" minimizes both the nature and persistence.sergeriver wrote:
He was fired without justification, but you didn't fire him. And FYI the same company that fired him, fired my ancestors.san4 wrote:
By that do you mean he was murdered and his corpse was incinerated in a large oven built specifically for that purpose while all his neighbors stood by and did nothing?
I will take the bait.......
I would kill the motherfucker.
I would kill the motherfucker.
Weapon of choice?usmarine2007 wrote:
I will take the bait.......
I would kill the motherfucker.
Katushya rockets or Suicide bombers (not you obviously, just some guilable kids you trick into doing it)?
Hmmmmm....Bertster7 wrote:
Weapon of choice?usmarine2007 wrote:
I will take the bait.......
I would kill the motherfucker.
Katushya rockets or Suicide bombers (not you obviously, just some guilable kids you trick into doing it)?
I like rockets.
Who doesn't?usmarine2007 wrote:
Hmmmmm....Bertster7 wrote:
Weapon of choice?usmarine2007 wrote:
I will take the bait.......
I would kill the motherfucker.
Katushya rockets or Suicide bombers (not you obviously, just some guilable kids you trick into doing it)?
I like rockets.
No one forced him to leave. So his new job didn't work out, that's a shame but it's not my problem or my fault. All that matters to me is my house has been taken from me and my family. I never asked for this scenario but now it is here and I must fight to get my home back, especially if my neighbour shows further aggression towards me.sergeriver wrote:
You had a neighbor who left his home a few years ago. He got a good job and moved to another city. But he was fired. Now he is back and there's a Pakistani restaurant where his house used to be. So he decides to settle in your home while you were at work because he likes that block. He changes the keys, but he lets you stay in the backyard.
What would you do?
Burn it.
Well, since I've been a bad neighbor before, stealing the home of one of my neighbors and destroying the home of the other, I should shut up and fuck myself.Pug wrote:
Rather than posting a retalitory poll thread, how about this analogy:
You neighbor has shot at you before and has killed many of the people around you. You have asked the police to do something about it in the past, but they have not done anything. You believe you have met their demands in the past but every time you do so he has killed more people around you to your frustration. Now your neighbor has two of your family members held hostage and is making more demands. In the meantime, another neighbor kills your dog because you have not met the demands of the other neighbor. You can't go to the police because they have proven they will not do anything. You have a decision to make.
-Take things into your own hands
-Write off my family members
And you're decision is?
You will note that I did not include any additional information or any other items of revelance, because they are not important to the decision. Anything added would be generated by you, and therefore has no revelance. Plus you must answer the choices I provided, and I want to make sure to shape the question to conform to the result I'm looking for.
I thought you liked the Cavaliers.usmarine2007 wrote:
Hmmmmm....Bertster7 wrote:
Weapon of choice?usmarine2007 wrote:
I will take the bait.......
I would kill the motherfucker.
Katushya rockets or Suicide bombers (not you obviously, just some guilable kids you trick into doing it)?
I like rockets.
Sorry, that's not an answer option. Just answer the question.sergeriver wrote:
Well, since I've been a bad neighbor before, stealing the home of one of my neighbors and destroying the home of the other, I should shut up and fuck myself.Pug wrote:
Rather than posting a retalitory poll thread, how about this analogy:
You neighbor has shot at you before and has killed many of the people around you. You have asked the police to do something about it in the past, but they have not done anything. You believe you have met their demands in the past but every time you do so he has killed more people around you to your frustration. Now your neighbor has two of your family members held hostage and is making more demands. In the meantime, another neighbor kills your dog because you have not met the demands of the other neighbor. You can't go to the police because they have proven they will not do anything. You have a decision to make.
-Take things into your own hands
-Write off my family members
And you're decision is?
You will note that I did not include any additional information or any other items of revelance, because they are not important to the decision. Anything added would be generated by you, and therefore has no revelance. Plus you must answer the choices I provided, and I want to make sure to shape the question to conform to the result I'm looking for.
Well, you are missing the other option, but I guess I would take things into my own hands coz I'm a bad neighbor.Pug wrote:
Sorry, that's not an answer option. Just answer the question.sergeriver wrote:
Well, since I've been a bad neighbor before, stealing the home of one of my neighbors and destroying the home of the other, I should shut up and fuck myself.Pug wrote:
Rather than posting a retalitory poll thread, how about this analogy:
You neighbor has shot at you before and has killed many of the people around you. You have asked the police to do something about it in the past, but they have not done anything. You believe you have met their demands in the past but every time you do so he has killed more people around you to your frustration. Now your neighbor has two of your family members held hostage and is making more demands. In the meantime, another neighbor kills your dog because you have not met the demands of the other neighbor. You can't go to the police because they have proven they will not do anything. You have a decision to make.
-Take things into your own hands
-Write off my family members
And you're decision is?
You will note that I did not include any additional information or any other items of revelance, because they are not important to the decision. Anything added would be generated by you, and therefore has no revelance. Plus you must answer the choices I provided, and I want to make sure to shape the question to conform to the result I'm looking for.
Teddy[AK-101]People who stole my home
i would blow and shit all over my house so much that my israeli neighbor would not want to live there. SHIT WHERE I SLEEP....on second thought, its really working for the palis
Oh, it's working so well...they are improving their lives everyday.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
i would blow and shit all over my house so much that my israeli neighbor would not want to live there. SHIT WHERE I SLEEP....on second thought, its really working for the palis