Poll

Which mode do you prefer commanding in?

Titan44%44% - 28
Conquest55%55% - 35
Total: 63
jsnipy
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+3,276|6530|...

Most of the time I have played 2142 it has been in titan mode. Lately (in an effort to chase a badge) I have been "command whoring" in conquest and I have to say as a conquest commander you tend to have more influence over the outcome (IMO).

Which do you prefer and why?
Ayumiz
J-10 whore
+103|6741|Singapore
Titan. Cause i get more points there
madmurre
I suspect something is amiss
+117|6718|Sweden
conquest has orbital strikes and on citymaps you can make sure the enemies won´t have their walker operating.
( and as you say more influence covering a flag or 2 )
JovesApples
Member
+4|6461|USA
conquest...

Titan commanding is dull. half the servers will not allow Titan movement, so if you depend on the guns for points you are screwed. plus the Orbital Strike is not available...

sure Titan is good for repair points and some Titan defense points... but i think Conquest is just superior in every way.
TimmmmaaaaH
Damn, I... had something for this
+725|6447|Brisbane, Australia

I have not really played or commanded conquest much in 2142. So I voted titan...........I need those conquest commander badges though....
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FloppY_
­
+1,010|6294|Denmark aka Automotive Hell
I think titan is too boring when you are in command, mostly because of the lack of orbital strike, and unless you are a noob it can get pretty darn boring lying in one place the entire round, whilst in conquest you can either camp and cover a flag whilst commanding or if you can manage it, follow your team, and assist them from the battle itself

BTW i hate those noobs who teamkills you when you are commanding because they think you are AFK just because you are not moving... what they really should realize is that THEY are the noobs, thinking that they can run around at the frontline whilst beeing able to command at the same time (not that they ever do anything but supply/UAV themselves) but in titanmode you really have to be in one place the whole battle using sattrack, uav, emp, supply and titan move to assist your team to victory...


However as the average soldier i do prefer titanmode but i'm not a whore, i inf. when i can. =]

Last edited by ShawN_ (2007-03-27 00:53:29)

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DerGraueWolf
aka Nekrodamus
+52|6740|Germany, near Koblenz
I HAVE to command in Conquest mode now and I LIKE to command team players.

Would not say that you get "more" points in Titan mode. Normally the rounds last longer which will result in (good looking) higher scores but the score per minute is not much different. But there's a negative (if you want to see it like this) aspect with the long Titan rounds too: Less medals (gold, silver, bronze) per hour.

I used the Titan commander time to get the air defense hours. At the beginning of the round you won't block a vehicle for your team members and when nobody is willing to use them after the shield is down you can get some kills there just to have a little fun (allthough this means less commander points for you).
bf2junk
Banned
+0|6249
2142 sucks wont buy to slow, booring,,zzzzzzzz
TimmmmaaaaH
Damn, I... had something for this
+725|6447|Brisbane, Australia

DerGraueWolf wrote:

after the shield is down you can get some kills there just to have a little fun
lol both my clear skies pins are the result of commanding on titan mode, using titan AA guns against incoming transports. No one else was using them....
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thefousteph
Member
+8|6739

bf2junk wrote:

2142 sucks wont buy to slow, booring,,zzzzzzzz
You are sooo pathetic (you almost understood the question; good!)

I'm the oposite of most of you: I played a lot conquest and then go for awards from Titan mode....and love it!

I like killing with the Titan guns and getting good repair points.
Titan defend pins makes easy points. I got all my best round as Titan commander
113, 93, 91 pts without counting bonus points!

You also get a great K/D ratio!
sparrowpisuke
Fractalman
+27|6453|Barcelona
Titan mode... if the server allows titan movement.
gvers
Bad at BF:BC2
+109|6680|The Real World

Titan at the moment with a bit of titan gun whoring .
GeoEnvi
Member
+22|6695|Philadelphia, PA
Conquest commander FTW.  Titan commander for a NAP!

Conquest commanders have more control over the potential victory.  Oribital and EMP strikes are essential to eliminate walkers, prevent flag caps, and cause disorder in the ranks of enemy troop concentrations..  UAV placement is critical to bridge the 'no mans land' between flags.  Sat Scans are crucial to uncover covert troop movements and behind the lines action.

In Titan mode, the commanders role decreases dramatically.  EMP strikes are WORTHLESS (should have give us orbitals instead). UAV is used more as an "alert" signal at remote silos instead of spannin two silos.  Scans are meaningless when everyone is in a vehicle and silo hopping for the first 13 mins of the game.  You are basically a supply sergeant in Titan mode; dropping boxes on your engineers so they can refill motion mines and piliums.  You are even MORE impotent after the shields drop.  While both your team and the other team Titan whoring on attack and defend, you're better off silo hopping to keep the missles heading their way.

Top Ten Things to Do While Commanding on Titan Mode

10. Work on your repair badges while fixing titan guns.
9. Work on your AA badges while sitting in the titan AA.
8. Pod down to an empty FAV, drive off to a remote spot, and earn transport time.
7. Supplies! Supplies! Supplies!
6. Exercise break! Time to work on your Abs of Steel.
5. Smoke break! Fill your lungs with nicotine goodness.
4. Bio break! All those Cheetos and RedBulls gotta come out sometime!
3. Home Depot break! Sometimes, it's just more fun to watch paint dry....
2. Wife/Girlfriend break! Hasn't it been a few hourse since you last checked up on her TV watching?

and

1. Porn break! Now's the time to browse through last night's batch download~
NooBesT
Pizzahitler
+873|6477

Bf2

Last edited by NooBesT[FiN] (2007-03-27 11:59:20)

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kylef
Gone
+1,352|6501|N. Ireland

GeoEnvi wrote:

1. Porn break! Now's the time to browse through last night's batch download~
Automatic Fail.

I prefer Titan commanding. Not only so do you get a total of 1540 points worth of badges, but you also get up your titan AA time, and in case you haven't realized, there are 2 badges (defend and attack) with 60 hours needed in titan mode. So while commanding titan you get:

- Titan Hours (MUCH more valuable that conquest hours);
- Over 2000 points worth of Titan Command Badges / Ribbons;
- AA Time;
- And lots more.

Titan = Win

I've got 22/25 kill streak
GeoEnvi
Member
+22|6695|Philadelphia, PA

leetkyle wrote:

GeoEnvi wrote:

1. Porn break! Now's the time to browse through last night's batch download~
Automatic Fail.

I prefer Titan commanding. Not only so do you get a total of 1540 points worth of badges, but you also get up your titan AA time, and in case you haven't realized, there are 2 badges (defend and attack) with 60 hours needed in titan mode. So while commanding titan you get:

- Titan Hours (MUCH more valuable that conquest hours);
- Over 2000 points worth of Titan Command Badges / Ribbons;
- AA Time;
- And lots more.

Titan = Win

I've got 22/25 kill streak
Kyle:

Your argument is only valid ! IF ! you need the attack/defend badges.  I had my titan attack and defend badges before I even had 5 minutes of commanding...a potential commander shouldn't even click APPLY until he's put in time on the front line to learn the maps.  AA time is nothing.  Only takes 25 hours for silver; 50 for gold.  I've had my Gold Titan Commander before the 25 hours required for AA.  Now what? Waste another 25 boring hours of Titan Commanding to get the AA gold?

Plus, my Titan Commander SPMs have been lower than Conquest Commander SPM.  Lower SPM mean LESS point value to your overall gaming time.  Check your stats.  I bet your Titan SPM is lower than your Conquest SPM.  That makes sense.  Why?  Noobs.  Before the Noobs get their panties in a bunch, let me explain...

Recall from BF2 days that a commander's score is based on a percentage of his team's individual scores.  In any given game you can divide the players among three types of scoring styles: low, medium, high.  The “high” scoring players (~20%) use their heads, understand advanced strategy, and know all the tricks for efficient scoring, namely teamwork (e.g. working in squads, capping flags, healing, reviving, resupply, defending, etc.).  These are the guys with the multiple gold medals and KDR> 2 to 3.  The “medium” scoring players (~50%) know SOME of the tricks, but still haven’t developed the technical skills.  They’re good at teamwork points, but their KDRs are still average (~1 to 1.2) so their point base is lower. 

The “low” scoring players (~30% aka Noobs) come in three categories: the Neophytes, the Mindless, and the Bored.  The Neophytes are just learning to play so their “kill base points” are low, and are ignorant to the fact that Teamwork = Big Scores.  The Mindless are content to play a sniper kit on a vehicle map and settle for 2 kills in 20 mins.  The third category, The Bored, are tired of playing by the rules and are looking for ways to increase their interest in the game (finding glitches, tk-ing, kidnapping, badge time requirement banking while AFK, etc.).  This is NOT a true Noob, but he’ll get called one anyway!

So how do the Noobs contribute to low Commander SPM?  Easy.  On a given team, Medium and Noob scoring is generally 80% of your team.  No math degrees required to see that a bunch of ZERO scores quickly DECREASES the arithmetic mean of the teams score, and therefore the Commanders score.

Why is Titan mode more sensitive to Noob scoring?

1)    Assuming a Noobs score is mostly attributed to the kills and not teamwork, they are going to get hammered during the first 15 mins of a 22 minute Titan map.  They’re just too busy driving around, exploring, waiting for gunships, walking from one end of the map to another, to score.
2)    After the shields go down, Noobs are the last to flock to the Titan Point Whore Fest.  They’re already down to the last console, so they flood that corridor and grenade spam their way to TK Jackpot.  Maybe they just continue to camp that silo waiting for a headshot or set up their sentry gun in the cargo bay and cross their fingers?

How does Noob scoring affect Conquest Commander SPM differently?

1)    The maps are smaller and the combat is closer.  The chance of getting killed by a Noob is exponentially greater.  APCs, armor, and walkers (Noob staples) are more effective to camp chokepoints for easy kills.
2)    The chances of a Noob picking up revive or resupply points from their errantly deployed packs are greater.
3)    It’s more likely that a Noob will be revived than need to respawn and walk all the way from their last spawn point at the rear.  More time on the battlefield is more potential scoring time.
4)    The games are typically shorter, so the SPM is already higher.

Last edited by GeoEnvi (2007-03-27 15:50:45)

l41e
Member
+677|6656

leetkyle wrote:

Automatic Fail.
Automatic "The fad's dead. Get over it."
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6501|N. Ireland
Once you order your team to attack/defend the titan your command bonus points will rocket up. Titan rounds are long, which means lots of points. I frequently earn 40, usually 45-50. My new BR of 108? 2x Commander.

k30dxedle wrote:

leetkyle wrote:

Automatic Fail.
Automatic "The fad's dead. Get over it."
I didn't type it because it was a fad. I'm not a fanboy groupie like half of the people around here.

Last edited by leetkyle (2007-03-27 23:40:01)

NZDeathBoy
Member
+20|6708|Chch, New Zealand

Ayumiz wrote:

Titan. Cause i get more points there
Boy im sick of people saying that!!!

A titain round, if its even, is about the lenth of TWO Conquest rounds.

Now for commanding. I've got gold in both. Since I got gold in Titian, I havn't commanded since, why? Cuase its boring, no one listens to ya, even though you can see everything.

The points are less, And if your team sucks and you lose, you get shit all points, you can't kill with the orbital strike. (as there isn't one) so no Combat pins.

Though I have got a few hours in titian AA but still no ribbon damn it to hell.


But after I got on Conquest gold, I still command. Why? As in Conquest, the commander can make or break the team. If you have a commader who doesn't spot enemys near your team, then your team has no idea where the enemy is, unless under uav. Everytime you spot and enemy, near your team mates, you are giving your team an advantage, and advantage means you get more points.

And as been mentioned above, Conquest are close fighting rounds, so spotting is important for your score. You shouldn't be running round.

I love the power that Conquest commander has, as most spuad leaders listen to you if you spot, and keep them imfored, and tell them when and where the UAV is going.
GeoEnvi
Member
+22|6695|Philadelphia, PA
Nice post, NZDeathBoy!  Apparently I'm not the only one with the ability to see beyond the "Long Round = High Points Server" bullshit....
Rubix-Cubes
Member
+123|6663|UK
i am definitely conquest, i find that you have more sway in a conquest match to win the round
Sambuccashake
Member
+126|6618|Sweden
Besides, Titan commanding is very boring especially if the server has some kind of "no fighting commanders"-rule. *yawn*
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6501|N. Ireland
Okay, I've recently commanded a lot more in both modes and think I have some fairer points:

Titan
There are several bonuses sitting on the Titan. For a start, a commander who moves the titan in a well placed position can guard up to 3 silos. The Titan introduces massive damage to these 4 and if you keep them, you've won the game. Another bonus is, if there is a "no fighting commander" rule, you can get both AA, Titan, Army and Command time up all in one! Also, you get several points if you issue the right orders.

Conquest
Insane points. I thought Titan was great but conquest today is something different. First round I commanded on, I got 40 command points (with x2) and over 70 command bonus points! That was over 110 points that round alone for me, with no awards (even pins). Ironically, I have 999/1000 conquest command points now. A conquest commander can make or break any time as I saw myself get around 9 wins and 1 loss today.

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Conclusion:

Titan
+ Time up for award requirements
+ Lots of points to be earned through command ribbons/badges only for Titan
- Very boring if there is a no-commander fighting rule
- Lack of Orbital Strike is death

Conquest
+ Insane crazy command bonus points when issuing the right order
+ Commander can make or break the victory
+ Orbital Strike
- Actual command points are harder because of shorter rounds
- Less points to be earned through awards via Titan mode

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Personal Preference
If I need points? Now I know where to get them. Conquest mode.

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