BF2S Forums Calvin Broadus refused entry visa to UK

If we don't let Snoop in then pretty much all of the UK's (half decent) musical exports should also be barred from America.

ghettoperson wrote:

UON wrote:

If we don't let Snoop in then pretty much all of the UK's (half decent) musical exports should also be barred from America.

Why exactly? It's nothing to do with the fact that he's a musician as to that he has a criminal record. Or are you saying half of the UK half decent musician have criminal records? And what exactly do you mean by half decent?

I mean drugs, violence and large egos go hand in hand with the music (and film) industry.  Pretty much universally.  Do I really need to elaborate?

edit : and in the UK he only has a formal warning (e.g. caution)...

Last edited by UON (2007-03-25 13:57:29)

ghettoperson wrote:

I'm not entirely sure you're correct, but perhaps a better question would be, why are any musicians/especially rappers allowed to travel?

An interest point to discuss might be whether it was the previous caution, the outstanding cases in America or the combination of the two which lead to the decision.

If the former, and therefore a caution carries the same weight as a conviction, should any person ever accept a caution for a minor offence?  What is the point in a caution if not to give a person a chance to change before serious consequences occur?  Nothing.

If it's the outstanding cases, then what about the presumption of innocence?  Given the fact that money=victory in American courts, why is this not a fair assumption for someone like Snoop?  And if it is for fear of flight, then that is not for Britain to determine, but an American court, which can take away/invalidate his passport to keep him in the country while he awaits the court dates.

If it's the combination of the two, then that also makes the decision no more valid IMO.

And I'm not saying that the majority of British artists have criminal records, I'm saying that the majority of them drink, take drugs and get rowdy from time to time, at least in my personal experience; most you will never find out about as they are responsible users... but some get caught, some take it to far, some just come out and admit when asked... they are human after all.  Punishment should be proportional, and a small fine or community service is perfectly reasonable.  Costing them thousands or millions through lost income hardly seems fair to me, and refusing entry for minor matters just destroys my faith in this country even more.

Cougar wrote:

Why anyone with his reputation, record, habits and recreational hobbies would want to stay in the U.S. is beyond me.

Ghetto booty.

Konfusion0 wrote:

Well, I'm against anyone who uses drugs. Period.
If he wants to smoke weed, he can go to a country where it's legal - or just not get caught.

-konfusion

Should he go somewhere with straightforward laws on cannabis like Switzerland?  Where you can grow superstrong strains and sell them in shops, provided you stitch the cannabis into a little bit of cloth and sell it as a "scented herbal pillow".  Face it, drug laws are a fallacy.

Damn those extradition treaties...

Hey!

We let the Beatles in.


Long haired druggy nogerbooties too.

Seriously;
rap idolizes criminal behavior to a large part.