ATG
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Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6934|Tampa Bay Florida

usmarine2007 wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:


He does not know the reason, unless he is really in the Iran government.
The Iranian government does not want war with the UK or the US.  If you honestly believe they are that dumb, then you are even more dumb than them.
When did I say that?  Keep your words in your own mouth.
What other motive would they have for capturing sailors from another nations Navy?  Tell me the possible motives. 

1. Prisoner exchange or demonstration of power

2. War

What else?  There aren't many reasons a country willingly captures members of foreign armed forces.
Raptor1
Member
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God damn Fucking Iran is really starting to piss me off. It's like they just want attention.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6611|Columbus, Ohio
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070325/ap_ … an_nuclear

At least they are trying to help the situation.

/sarcasm
GunSlinger OIF II
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dont know if this has been said but perhaps the brits saw something in the waters the irananian gov't doesnt want the rest of the world to know?
usmarine2007
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GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

dont know if this has been said but perhaps the brits saw something in the waters the irananian gov't doesnt want the rest of the world to know?
Never.  When have they ever done anything like that?
GunSlinger OIF II
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usmarine2007 wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

dont know if this has been said but perhaps the brits saw something in the waters the irananian gov't doesnt want the rest of the world to know?
Never.  When have they ever done anything like that?
we keep ending up on different sides in the same server
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6611|Columbus, Ohio

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

dont know if this has been said but perhaps the brits saw something in the waters the irananian gov't doesnt want the rest of the world to know?
Never.  When have they ever done anything like that?
we keep ending up on different sides in the same server
It is a sign.  You are my enemy.
theelviscerator
Member
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Turquoise wrote:

theelviscerator wrote:

You guys never cease to amaze me on here with the level of naivete that permeates these forums.

Still thinking you can befriend the crocodiles of the world....you only end up getting eaten...last.
Your ignorance never ceases to amaze me.  Yet, I guess you enjoy acting as an American stereotype, don't you?...
Another straight ad hominem attack with nothing to back it up.

you claim to live in the US, yet you sound french.



The Iranians are charging them with espionage, and may very well hang them.

Last edited by theelviscerator (2007-03-25 17:41:03)

[Ew]Ess
Member
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Spearhead wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Spearhead wrote:


The Iranian government does not want war with the UK or the US.  If you honestly believe they are that dumb, then you are even more dumb than them.
When did I say that?  Keep your words in your own mouth.
What other motive would they have for capturing sailors from another nations Navy?  Tell me the possible motives. 

1. Prisoner exchange or demonstration of power

2. War

What else?  There aren't many reasons a country willingly captures members of foreign armed forces.
Middle Eastern Politics are not like Western Politics. I am not claiming to understand the Iranian motives for this act but its possibly a Demonstration of Power, in the eyes of the Arab states.
They arrest a group of British soldiers to ( in their eyes), demonstrate to the people that they are "not to be messed with", that they have stood up to the West. Brinksmanship is also a common ploy used by Middle Eastern states.
Similarly Nasser, in the 60's was seen as a hero even though his forces were essentially pushed back to Egypt. Its all about taking a stance against the invader, and their history is littered with such tales.
It may just be Middle Eastern spin doctoring and posturing, which is often quite alien to our own methods.
They will make their point and release them when its played out
Hurricane
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theelviscerator wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

theelviscerator wrote:

You guys never cease to amaze me on here with the level of naivete that permeates these forums.

Still thinking you can befriend the crocodiles of the world....you only end up getting eaten...last.
Your ignorance never ceases to amaze me.  Yet, I guess you enjoy acting as an American stereotype, don't you?...
Another straight ad hominem attack with nothing to back it up.

you claim to live in the US, yet you sound french.



The Iranians are charging them with espionage, and may very well hang them.
Don't hate on the French, without them we wouldn't have delicious foods like lemon tart.. mmm...

Anyways if they do hang the soldiers they're likely to get an ass-whooping.

Ahmadinejad: This is madness!
Tony Blair: Madness? This is Britain!
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6649|North Carolina

theelviscerator wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

theelviscerator wrote:

You guys never cease to amaze me on here with the level of naivete that permeates these forums.

Still thinking you can befriend the crocodiles of the world....you only end up getting eaten...last.
Your ignorance never ceases to amaze me.  Yet, I guess you enjoy acting as an American stereotype, don't you?...
Another straight ad hominem attack with nothing to back it up.

you claim to live in the US, yet you sound french.



The Iranians are charging them with espionage, and may very well hang them.
Let's see... you made a broad ad hominem attack on the members of this forum with your initial remark without backing it up.  So, now I can add "hypocrite" to the various labels that can apply to you.

Second, I find it ironic that you think I'm French.  The French are actually a lot like us: they do crazy things without really considering the repercussions.  Because of their individualism and their often foolhardy approach to foreign policy, you can essentially think of them as a much weaker version of the U.S.  They'd likely behave just as arrogantly as we do, if they were the world's only remaining superpower.

I would agree with you at this point that Iran cannot be trusted and that they had better release those soldiers, but I attacked you because your posts usually smack of an ignorant arrogance that I find unbearably easy to disarm.

I know you're an easy target, so I'll try to hold back some....
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6845|132 and Bush

Hey I'm American/French Turquoise and I think everything out..lol


Edit:Well maybe not my girlfriends

Last edited by Kmarion (2007-03-25 19:13:32)

Xbone Stormsurgezz
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6649|North Carolina
Heh...  I hope that last post wasn't too offensive...  Admittedly, I love French women and French food.

I know what you mean about the girlfriend thing though...  I could stand to be more careful about who I date as well...  lol

Last edited by Turquoise (2007-03-25 19:21:00)

usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6611|Columbus, Ohio

Kmarion wrote:

Hey I'm American/French Turquoise and I think everything out..lol


Edit:Well maybe not my girlfriends
Do you drink wine with every meal?
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6845|132 and Bush

usmarine2007 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Hey I'm American/French Turquoise and I think everything out..lol


Edit:Well maybe not my girlfriends
Do you drink wine with every meal?
Not with every. But I most certainly drink my share . (I usually go for the Italian wines anyways)
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Dauntless
Admin
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If the sailors were in Iraqs waters, then surley that means Iran crossed into Iraqs waters?

Why has no one pointed this out?
https://imgur.com/kXTNQ8D.png
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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"Where ya goin,' soldier? Return to the battle or you will be shot!" Guess I should be more serious, but it's still a video game forum.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-03-26 08:40:41)

Braddock
Agitator
+916|6534|Éire

Dauntless wrote:

If the sailors were in Iraqs waters, then surley that means Iran crossed into Iraqs waters?

Why has no one pointed this out?
Those waters have alway been disputed, Iran have said they were in Iranian waters and the British have said they were in Iraqi waters. Both sides are probably 'convinced' they're in the right.
[Ew]Ess
Member
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That old chestnut has been used for years ( Belgrano et al ) - there are no physical borders at sea and boundaries are disputed anyway so they will both claim to be correct but we will never really know

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