My mistake... It has a "partnership" with Russia, despite it not having membership.Magpie wrote:
Dude Russia is not in NATO
Oh, I wouldn't go so far as to say they make you look saintly. They tend not to go around invade people they dislike, for one.Turquoise wrote:
Because several member nations are so corrupt that they make the U.S. look saintly by comparison: Russia and China, for two major examples.
You do know what NATO stands for?Turquoise wrote:
We'd need to add Australia, Japan, Brazil, and a few others to NATO, but we'd still keep the really corrupt nations out of the mix.
And how did the rest of the world get so screwed up in the first place?Turquoise wrote:
For the most part, America and Europe should be the key players in making many of the world's decisions, because we're less corrupt than a lot of the rest of the world. Granted, we still have plenty of problems.
No, it was created to fight Russia. In fact, many NATO members are currently on the verge of a shitfight with RussiaTurqoise wrote:
My mistake... It has a "partnership" with Russia, despite it not having membership.
The UN is useless because the permanent Security Council members use their vetoes to defend their interests wherever possible. It is because of the supposedly uncorruptible coalition of America and Europe that it doesn't work.
That and the fact that whenever anything is imposed that the US doesn't like the US just ignores it. The US is the primary reason that the UN is useless.
Actually I think it really isn't the US' fault. What about Russia? They veto a lot of shit for their own interests.Bubbalo wrote:
Oh, I wouldn't go so far as to say they make you look saintly. They tend not to go around invade people they dislike, for one.Turquoise wrote:
Because several member nations are so corrupt that they make the U.S. look saintly by comparison: Russia and China, for two major examples.You do know what NATO stands for?Turquoise wrote:
We'd need to add Australia, Japan, Brazil, and a few others to NATO, but we'd still keep the really corrupt nations out of the mix.And how did the rest of the world get so screwed up in the first place?Turquoise wrote:
For the most part, America and Europe should be the key players in making many of the world's decisions, because we're less corrupt than a lot of the rest of the world. Granted, we still have plenty of problems.No, it was created to fight Russia. In fact, many NATO members are currently on the verge of a shitfight with RussiaTurqoise wrote:
My mistake... It has a "partnership" with Russia, despite it not having membership.
The UN is useless because the permanent Security Council members use their vetoes to defend their interests wherever possible. It is because of the supposedly uncorruptible coalition of America and Europe that it doesn't work.
That and the fact that whenever anything is imposed that the US doesn't like the US just ignores it. The US is the primary reason that the UN is useless.
As do France, Britain, and China, and I pointed out that they are partially to blame.cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Actually I think it really isn't the US' fault. What about Russia? They veto a lot of shit for their own interests.
But as I said, the US blatantly ignores the UN. Example: they're exempt from the International Criminal Court.
you should be harmed too for that useless comment. see, that was their war, not US war. you guys should stop invading countries like Somalia, Irak, etc for no reason except training your soldier to do shitty work. if someday USA invade Canada because you pumped all oil on earth except here an di have the chance to hurt a US soldier, i will hard him for sure. not because hes american, not because he simply followed orders he received, but because you guys (american governement here) are freaking dumbasses (at least since 6 years now and probably for 2 more).usmarine2007 wrote:
I hope we cut off support to Somalia and nuke the fucking place. These people are a useless society in the world and need to be left alone to die.
before saying we should nuke them becasue they punished 2 soldiers who shouldnt be there, nuke your fucking Capitol or better, the White House. theres more useless retarded in there than in Somalia
You so sure about that? True there are a lot of greedy politicians in the US, but hell, at least they aren't corrupt to the point where they take foreign aid for themselves.PvtStPoK wrote:
you should be harmed too for that useless comment. see, that was their war, not US war. you guys should stop invading countries like Somalia, Irak, etc for no reason except training your soldier to do shitty work. if someday USA invade Canada because you pumped all oil on earth except here an di have the chance to hurt a US soldier, i will hard him for sure. not because hes american, not because he simply followed orders he received, but because you guys (american governement here) are freaking dumbasses (at least since 6 years now and probably for 2 more).usmarine2007 wrote:
I hope we cut off support to Somalia and nuke the fucking place. These people are a useless society in the world and need to be left alone to die.
before saying we should nuke them becasue they punished 2 soldiers who shouldnt be there, nuke your fucking Capitol or better, the White House. theres more useless retarded in there than in Somalia
Wtf before 9/11 The US had not paid their "fee" to the UN....A few weeks after they started to pay of their debt why would they do that is it cause they noticed that its good having the UN? and now its like fuck the UN, so what who vetos any time there is a resolution against the Israelis the US is their with their big veto stickBubbalo wrote:
As do France, Britain, and China, and I pointed out that they are partially to blame.cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Actually I think it really isn't the US' fault. What about Russia? They veto a lot of shit for their own interests.
But as I said, the US blatantly ignores the UN. Example: they're exempt from the International Criminal Court.
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they prefer invade country to take what they need, mostly oil theses days. and you talk about corruption, sure they dont take case full of cash f or voting out a law or something. no instead they make big fucking tanks with newest technologies, mass produce them while somewhere else they make new rifles or recruit new cannon flesh. so then for next elections, one of the candidate receive fat checks for the campaign.cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
You so sure about that? True there are a lot of greedy politicians in the US, but hell, at least they aren't corrupt to the point where they take foreign aid for themselves.PvtStPoK wrote:
you should be harmed too for that useless comment. see, that was their war, not US war. you guys should stop invading countries like Somalia, Irak, etc for no reason except training your soldier to do shitty work. if someday USA invade Canada because you pumped all oil on earth except here an di have the chance to hurt a US soldier, i will hard him for sure. not because hes american, not because he simply followed orders he received, but because you guys (american governement here) are freaking dumbasses (at least since 6 years now and probably for 2 more).usmarine2007 wrote:
I hope we cut off support to Somalia and nuke the fucking place. These people are a useless society in the world and need to be left alone to die.
before saying we should nuke them becasue they punished 2 soldiers who shouldnt be there, nuke your fucking Capitol or better, the White House. theres more useless retarded in there than in Somalia
Corruption isnt always a matter of money case and stfu, it can be an exchange of services..
You are too stupid to understand what I am saying. Go to the junk drawer.PvtStPoK wrote:
you should be harmed too for that useless comment. see, that was their war, not US war. you guys should stop invading countries like Somalia, Irak, etc for no reason except training your soldier to do shitty work. if someday USA invade Canada because you pumped all oil on earth except here an di have the chance to hurt a US soldier, i will hard him for sure. not because hes american, not because he simply followed orders he received, but because you guys (american governement here) are freaking dumbasses (at least since 6 years now and probably for 2 more).usmarine2007 wrote:
I hope we cut off support to Somalia and nuke the fucking place. These people are a useless society in the world and need to be left alone to die.
before saying we should nuke them becasue they punished 2 soldiers who shouldnt be there, nuke your fucking Capitol or better, the White House. theres more useless retarded in there than in Somalia
good for youd.cripz wrote:
hey all u assholes im Somalian
I highly doubt you live in Somalia.herrr_smity wrote:
good for youd.cripz wrote:
hey all u assholes im Somalian
Let's be honest usmarine2007, that comment of yours he was replying to was pretty stupid. I know you're US military and probably like to have the whole macho thing going on but I'd like to see you push the button that launches that hypothetical nuke and try and live with it for the rest of your life. I know you'll probably come back with some sort of 'you're God damn right I'd fire that nuke' type of comment but if you're truly honest with yourself I think you'd find it a rather unpalatable thing to do. If you really wouldn't have a problem with doing something like that then you truly must have no soul.usmarine2007 wrote wrote:
I hope we cut off support to Somalia and nuke the fucking place. These people are a useless society in the world and need to be left alone to die.You are too stupid to understand what I am saying. Go to the junk drawer.PvtStPoK wrote:
you should be harmed too for that useless comment. see, that was their war, not US war. you guys should stop invading countries like Somalia, Irak, etc for no reason except training your soldier to do shitty work. if someday USA invade Canada because you pumped all oil on earth except here an di have the chance to hurt a US soldier, i will hard him for sure. not because hes american, not because he simply followed orders he received, but because you guys (american governement here) are freaking dumbasses (at least since 6 years now and probably for 2 more).
before saying we should nuke them becasue they punished 2 soldiers who shouldnt be there, nuke your fucking Capitol or better, the White House. theres more useless retarded in there than in Somalia
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You didn't get it either.
I'm hoping that you mean it was sarcastic in that case, if not then explain yourself, don't hide behind a vague comment like 'you just don't get it'.usmarine2007 wrote:
You didn't get it either.
Well, as the U.S.S.R., they generally invaded whoever had the resources they needed. Nowadays, they just do it the American way by installing puppet governments (like in Moldova). I'd say the Russians have invaded more countries in the last 100 years than we have.Bubbalo wrote:
Oh, I wouldn't go so far as to say they make you look saintly. They tend not to go around invade people they dislike, for one.Turquoise wrote:
Because several member nations are so corrupt that they make the U.S. look saintly by comparison: Russia and China, for two major examples.
Yes, yes... North Atlantic, I know, but we could change the name to reflect a more global purpose. Maybe it could be CATO: Corporate Alliance Treaty Organization...Bubbalo wrote:
You do know what NATO stands for?Turquoise wrote:
We'd need to add Australia, Japan, Brazil, and a few others to NATO, but we'd still keep the really corrupt nations out of the mix.
Touche, but many countries in Africa would be mostly better off if Europe was still running them. Too many of them have shown themselves incapable of properly governing themselves.Bubbalo wrote:
And how did the rest of the world get so screwed up in the first place?Turquoise wrote:
For the most part, America and Europe should be the key players in making many of the world's decisions, because we're less corrupt than a lot of the rest of the world. Granted, we still have plenty of problems.
Yes, but a few years ago, it almost entered NATO. Thankfully, things have changed.Bubbalo wrote:
No, it was created to fight Russia. In fact, many NATO members are currently on the verge of a shitfight with Russia.Turqoise wrote:
My mistake... It has a "partnership" with Russia, despite it not having membership.
I don't disagree with this. Still, I believe America would be more likely to come to a consensus with a primarily European international organization rather than one that includes countries like Yemen and Indonesia.Bubbalo wrote:
The UN is useless because the permanent Security Council members use their vetoes to defend their interests wherever possible. It is because of the supposedly uncorruptible coalition of America and Europe that it doesn't work.
That and the fact that whenever anything is imposed that the US doesn't like the US just ignores it. The US is the primary reason that the UN is useless.
Second that motion, Sir!usmarine2007 wrote:
You are too stupid to understand what I am saying. Go to the junk drawer.PvtStPoK wrote:
you should be harmed too for that useless comment. see, that was their war, not US war. you guys should stop invading countries like Somalia, Irak, etc for no reason except training your soldier to do shitty work. if someday USA invade Canada because you pumped all oil on earth except here an di have the chance to hurt a US soldier, i will hard him for sure. not because hes american, not because he simply followed orders he received, but because you guys (american governement here) are freaking dumbasses (at least since 6 years now and probably for 2 more).usmarine2007 wrote:
I hope we cut off support to Somalia and nuke the fucking place. These people are a useless society in the world and need to be left alone to die.
before saying we should nuke them becasue they punished 2 soldiers who shouldnt be there, nuke your fucking Capitol or better, the White House. theres more useless retarded in there than in Somalia
He's probably a Somali immigrant.usmarine2007 wrote:
I highly doubt you live in Somalia.herrr_smity wrote:
good for youd.cripz wrote:
hey all u assholes im Somalian
Cripz, I know I sound like an asshole for what I've posted, but ask yourself this.... If you were a native born citizen of a much richer nation that failed miserably at helping a poor African nation due to that nation's violence, would you try to help them again? I wouldn't.