usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6795|Columbus, Ohio

Braddock wrote:

Commie Killer wrote:

I dont remember the 2 world wars being better because the US kept a isolationist policy in the beginning.....
WWI was the stupidest war ever and you only joined in WWII when Japan attacked you. Up until then you seemed quite fond of isolationism.
1) Giving weapons and equipment to fight a war is hardly isolationism.

2) Having secret meetings in bunkers under London with top US generals is hardly isolationism.

3) We were coming out of a depression, and it was hard to convince the public to go to war.  Funny thing is, it was the republicans who opposed going to war.
Superslim
BF2s Frat Brother
+211|7120|Calgary

usmarine2007 wrote:

"Residents burned the bodies of two soldiers and dragged another through the streets, in a grim echo of the treatment meted out to US troops in a failed UN-backed peace operation in Somalia in the early 1990s."



http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070321/ts … 0321181519


I hope we cut off support to Somalia and nuke the fucking place.  These people are a useless society in the world and need to be left alone to die.
Yaa really, whats the point in trying to help people that won't even help themselves.
=n0s=Mykeee
Lock Up Your Daughters, The Scottish Have Arrived
+8|6710
Sometimes it is better to light  a candle than curse the darkness - if we leave them to their own devices then the strong will eliminate the weak and numerous atrocities will occur - Helping them might cost us in the short term but eventually we MAY bring some peace to the region.
Benefits take time and a programme of education for the young so the next generation can join the free world as contributing members.
I would rather be an optimist and wrong than a pessimist and right.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6989
I'd prefer a useless society to an aggressively militant one..............now where could I find one of those.............
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6957|Global Command
Down Under?
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6989
For one, and I've never disagreed with that.
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|7113|United States of America

Bubbalos sig wrote:

WTF!?!?!?! moments: 21/3/2007, approx. 4pm:
Saw a guy riding a bike wearing an army helmet.
Is that a misplaced modifier? According to you the bike is wearing the helmet
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6718|Éire

usmarine2007 wrote:

1) Giving weapons and equipment to fight a war is hardly isolationism.

2) Having secret meetings in bunkers under London with top US generals is hardly isolationism.

3) We were coming out of a depression, and it was hard to convince the public to go to war.  Funny thing is, it was the republicans who opposed going to war.
Where does this policy of intervention stop, you can't fight everyone's war for them. Some nations have to get onto their feet in their own time and in their own way. Let's say Somalia has it's leadership removed and another installed and they turn out to be another Saddam Hussein or Edi Amin, we go back and remove him and keep doing this until they get the right guy in?

The analogy with the world wars doesn't really work either as that was a case of countries attacking other countries, the Somalian situation, like the Iraq situation (this time round, not the first war in Iraq), is/was an internal problem. When sovereign nations are attacked their allies have a right to act IMO.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6989

DesertFox423 wrote:

Bubbalos sig wrote:

WTF!?!?!?! moments: 21/3/2007, approx. 4pm:
Saw a guy riding a bike wearing an army helmet.
Is that a misplaced modifier? According to you the bike is wearing the helmet
Actually, it could be read either way.  To clarify I could have "I saw a guy, riding a bike, wearing an army helmet".  But I didn't because I felt it was fairly self explanatory.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6833|North Carolina
Nuke Mogadishu for all I care...  they're better off dead.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6718|Éire

Turquoise wrote:

Nuke Mogadishu for all I care...  they're better off dead.
Why bother posting a comment like that?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6833|North Carolina
...because I seriously believe it.  There are several areas of Africa where suffering is the majority of the people's existence.  Killing them outright would be literally putting them out of their misery.  We have enough people on this planet already.  It's not like starving Somalis really have much to contribute to our species.
topthrill05
Member
+125|7006|Rochester NY USA
What in the world gives you the right to decide? If they want to be out of their misery then they can blow their head off. Its sure as hell not up too you.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6833|North Carolina
I'm not saying it's right.  I'm just saying I wouldn't really care if it happened.

The problem is that we enter war pretending it's about morals, but really, this all comes down to economics and keeping shit from spreading.  The only real concern we have with places like Mogadishu is whether the chaos spreads to an area that matters to us economically.  Since that hasn't happened yet, we don't get involved.

If it did, then we'd likely be dropping a lot of bombs over there by now.
topthrill05
Member
+125|7006|Rochester NY USA
Now if we were to just wipe out a their whole population I would be disgusted and ashamed. We may not see eye to eye on this but lets face one thing. They never asked to be born in such a situation. And while it is true that they don't do anything for society, but really what would you like them to do?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6833|North Carolina
I guess I'm just really cynical about any intervention in Africa after we completely bungled Somalia.  We're bungling Iraq now too, so I think it's clear that staying out of the Middle East and Africa would be in our best interests -- at least in a military sense.

It's just that when you occupy an area rife with ethnic conflict, you can't really expect the people to want you to be there.  So, you have to be willing to kill thousands of people if that's what order requires.  That's what Saddam did, and he was effective as a leader as a result.

He was a murderous asshole as well, but at least he was more competent at maintaining order than we've been.
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7194|Cambridge (UK)

meinfuhrer wrote:

Magpie wrote:

meinfuhrer wrote:

They arent German soldiers... who cares?
Nice comment herman the german and with your "nice" name gtfo
aww did I make the jude mad? starve and die of aids please.
Some people are funny. You are just sad.

EDIT: put what you first wrote back in...

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2007-03-21 22:38:54)

meinfuhrer
Banned
+1|6675

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

meinfuhrer wrote:

Magpie wrote:

Nice comment herman the german and with your "nice" name gtfo
aww did I make the jude mad? starve and die of aids please.
Some people are funny. You are just sad.

EDIT: put what you first wrote back in...
Not meant to be funny, social life ++?

You seem to take alot of offense over a forum.

Last edited by meinfuhrer (2007-03-21 22:43:47)

Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7194|Cambridge (UK)

meinfuhrer wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

meinfuhrer wrote:

aww did I make the jude mad? starve and die of aids please.
Some people are funny. You are just sad.

EDIT: put what you first wrote back in...
Not meant to be funny, social life ++?

You seem to take alot of offense over a forum.
Like I said, you are just sad.

EDIT: correction - you are banned (nice work which ever mod that was).

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2007-03-21 22:46:59)

deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6921|Connecticut

d.cripz wrote:

hey all u assholes im Somalian
hah!!! That sucks.
Malloy must go
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7144

deeznutz1245 wrote:

d.cripz wrote:

hey all u assholes im Somalian
hah!!! That sucks.
Indeed it does.
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BVC
Member
+325|7123
Sometimes you just have to let people batter each other until they can batter each other no more, and do nothing other than scream for help.  THEN is the time to intervene.
apollo_fi
The Flying Kalakukko.
+94|6958|The lunar module

Turquoise wrote:

...because I seriously believe it.  There are several areas of Africa where suffering is the majority of the people's existence.  Killing them outright would be literally putting them out of their misery.  We have enough people on this planet already.  It's not like starving Somalis really have much to contribute to our species.
There are city blocks in Washington DC which match your description of Somalia...

Nuke 'em as well?
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7144

apollo_fi wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

...because I seriously believe it.  There are several areas of Africa where suffering is the majority of the people's existence.  Killing them outright would be literally putting them out of their misery.  We have enough people on this planet already.  It's not like starving Somalis really have much to contribute to our species.
There are city blocks in Washington DC which match your description of Somalia...

Nuke 'em as well?
Let them get shot.
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Braddock
Agitator
+916|6718|Éire

Turquoise wrote:

...because I seriously believe it.  There are several areas of Africa where suffering is the majority of the people's existence.  Killing them outright would be literally putting them out of their misery.  We have enough people on this planet already.  It's not like starving Somalis really have much to contribute to our species.
You know a lot of Germans convinced themselves that the Jews were only a hindrance to society in the 40's.

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