| Venezuela | 11% | 11% - 10 | ||||
| Iran | 50% | 50% - 43 | ||||
| North Korea | 38% | 38% - 33 | ||||
| Total: 86 | ||||||
I asked which one of these three anyway.usmarine2007 wrote:
None. America is the biggest threat to America currently.
Maybe both Iran and Venezuela. Hugo and wacko number two are close friends.King_County_Downy wrote:
I still think Iran. They produce terrorists. Venezuela just harbors them (for the most part). I don't see N. Korea doing shit except maybe lobbing over a missile in a flagrant attempt at suicide.
Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-03-05 16:22:37)
How do you know Hugo is not allied with Iran? That could be dangerous if you ask me.CameronPoe wrote:
I think Venezuela are doing what they have to do - if I was Chavez I wouldn't trust America as far as I could throw it. He needs to build up the military to make sure that Venezuela won't be a walkover when they nationalise their oil fully and the US finds a convenient pretext for 'liberation'. Venezeula would never EVER attack the US without being attacked first by the US. As such, Venezuela is not a threat to the US.
Iran is not a threat to the US although it is a threat to Israel but remember folks: America and Israel are NOT the same thing (apparently).
North Korea are a threat to the US because although they don't have the range to do jackshit to US territory they can bomb South Korea, where many US soldiers are stationed with the willing acceptance of the South Korean government.
So North Korea is the biggest threat. QED
Last edited by javierwar (2007-03-05 16:25:02)
He is allied in the sense that they share the views of the non-aligned movement, which includes a great many more countries than just Iran and Venezuela. Serge - both you and I know that the sovereign territory of the USA will not be attacked by anyone other than a man with a suicide note in his hand. Chavez and Ahmedinejad may talk tough but they certainly aren't stupid and both are answerable to their electorate.sergeriver wrote:
How do you know Hugo is not allied with Iran? That could be dangerous if you ask me.CameronPoe wrote:
I think Venezuela are doing what they have to do - if I was Chavez I wouldn't trust America as far as I could throw it. He needs to build up the military to make sure that Venezuela won't be a walkover when they nationalise their oil fully and the US finds a convenient pretext for 'liberation'. Venezeula would never EVER attack the US without being attacked first by the US. As such, Venezuela is not a threat to the US.
Iran is not a threat to the US although it is a threat to Israel but remember folks: America and Israel are NOT the same thing (apparently).
North Korea are a threat to the US because although they don't have the range to do jackshit to US territory they can bomb South Korea, where many US soldiers are stationed with the willing acceptance of the South Korean government.
So North Korea is the biggest threat. QED
Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-03-05 16:48:54)
I am always surprised and impressed that you can be so logical. Good work.CameronPoe wrote:
I think Venezuela are doing what they have to do - if I was Chavez I wouldn't trust America as far as I could throw it. He needs to build up the military to make sure that Venezuela won't be a walkover when they nationalise their oil fully and the US finds a convenient pretext for 'liberation'. Venezeula would never EVER attack the US without being attacked first by the US. As such, Venezuela is not a threat to the US.
Iran is not a threat to the US although it is a threat to Israel but remember folks: America and Israel are NOT the same thing (apparently).
North Korea are a threat to the US because although they don't have the range to do jackshit to US territory they can bomb South Korea, where many US soldiers are stationed with the willing acceptance of the South Korean government.
So North Korea is the biggest threat. QED
Last edited by weamo8 (2007-03-05 16:27:38)
Last edited by topal63 (2007-03-05 16:39:18)
I understand your point. But think this for a minute. Iran is in the Middle East. Venezuela is very close to the US geographically speaking, so if Iran is training terrorist cells in Venezuela they can make a lot of noise easier. Remember the border with Mexico is very long shit, and a Venezuelan and a Mexican aren't much different.CameronPoe wrote:
He is allied in the sense that they share the views of the non-aligned movement, which includes a great many more countries than just Iran and Venezuela. Serge - both you and I no that the sovereign territory of the USA will not be attacked by anyone other than a man with a suicide note in his hand. Chavez and Ahmedinejad may talk tough but they certainly aren't stupid and both are answerable to their electorate.sergeriver wrote:
How do you know Hugo is not allied with Iran? That could be dangerous if you ask me.CameronPoe wrote:
I think Venezuela are doing what they have to do - if I was Chavez I wouldn't trust America as far as I could throw it. He needs to build up the military to make sure that Venezuela won't be a walkover when they nationalise their oil fully and the US finds a convenient pretext for 'liberation'. Venezeula would never EVER attack the US without being attacked first by the US. As such, Venezuela is not a threat to the US.
Iran is not a threat to the US although it is a threat to Israel but remember folks: America and Israel are NOT the same thing (apparently).
North Korea are a threat to the US because although they don't have the range to do jackshit to US territory they can bomb South Korea, where many US soldiers are stationed with the willing acceptance of the South Korean government.
So North Korea is the biggest threat. QED
Or you can ask me since I said it a couple posts above you.topal63 wrote:
None of those 3; those are mere pawns, not real threats...
Ask ATG, he knows, he would say Americas biggest threat is itself, or its own citizens.
So true.usmarine2007 wrote:
None. America is the biggest threat to America currently.
Last edited by Bertster7 (2007-03-05 16:36:27)
Serge - it doesn't serve any logical purpose for Iran to be mounting terror attacks on the US. They are going to be avoiding pretexts for the US to attack like the plague. Suppose they were? What would the motive be? How could they cause any meaningful damage to America without bringing about their own detruction? It just doesn't make sense. If you take note of Iranian governmental rhetoric they never once take an aggressive stance against the US, only a defensive one: stating that they are ready to retaliate if provoked. That is not like the kind of rhetoric you hear out of Osama Bin Laden or Saddam Hussein. If a 9/11 attack occurred where Iranians were implicated I'm willing to wager that the Iranian government would completely disassociate themselves with it, unlike Osama, who would revel in it and glorify it. I think people misunderstand Iran somewhat.sergeriver wrote:
I understand your point. But think this for a minute. Iran is in the Middle East. Venezuela is very close to the US geographically speaking, so if Iran is training terrorist cells in Venezuela they can make a lot of noise easier. Remember the border with Mexico is very long shit, and a Venezuelan and a Mexican aren't much different.
well he might have a point since the number of shootings (mainly homicides and suicides) in America every day is supposidly something ridiculous like 80...topal63 wrote:
None of those 3; those are mere pawns, not real threats...
Ask ATG, he knows, he would say Americas biggest threat is itself, or its own citizens.
You are not to familar with ATG's opinions now are you? That is not what he meant.sfarrar33 wrote:
well he might have a point since the number of shootings (mainly homicides and suicides) in America every day is supposidly something ridiculous like 80...topal63 wrote:
None of those 3; those are mere pawns, not real threats...
Ask ATG, he knows, he would say Americas biggest threat is itself, or its own citizens.
Terrorists might might a lot of fuss but still 80 per day is mad
So, you deny Iran creates and harbors terrorists? Let me tell you Irani terrorists blew the Israeli Embassy and The Amia Building (Jewish Organization) in Buenos Aires, killing more than 100 people. If that's not terrorism, I don't know what it is. There's a rumor about terrorist being trained in Venezuela by Iran. What do you think that is for?CameronPoe wrote:
Serge - it doesn't serve any logical purpose for Iran to be mounting terror attacks on the US. They are going to be avoiding pretexts for the US to attack like the plague. Suppose they were? What would the motive be? How could they cause any meaningful damage to America without bringing about their own detruction? It just doesn't make sense. If you take note of Iranian governmental rhetoric they never once take an aggressive stance against the US, only a defensive one: stating that they are ready to retaliate if provoked. That is not like the kind of rhetoric you hear out of Osama Bin Laden or Saddam Hussein. If a 9/11 attack occurred where Iranians were implicated I'm willing to wager that the Iranian government would completely disassociate themselves with it, unlike Osama, who would revel in it and glorify it. I think people misunderstand Iran somewhat.sergeriver wrote:
I understand your point. But think this for a minute. Iran is in the Middle East. Venezuela is very close to the US geographically speaking, so if Iran is training terrorist cells in Venezuela they can make a lot of noise easier. Remember the border with Mexico is very long shit, and a Venezuelan and a Mexican aren't much different.
Last edited by sergeriver (2007-03-05 16:44:26)
There are Rumors that the US is now conducting Covert operations through out the Middle East in order to further alienate the Shia Iran.sergeriver wrote:
So, you deny Iran creates and harbors terrorists? Let me tell you Irani terrorists blew the Israeli Embassy and The Amia Building (Jewish Organization) in Buenos Aires, killing more than 100 people. If that's not terrorism, I don't know what it is. There's a rumor about terrorist being trained in Venezuela by Iran. What do you think that is for?CameronPoe wrote:
Serge - it doesn't serve any logical purpose for Iran to be mounting terror attacks on the US. They are going to be avoiding pretexts for the US to attack like the plague. Suppose they were? What would the motive be? How could they cause any meaningful damage to America without bringing about their own detruction? It just doesn't make sense. If you take note of Iranian governmental rhetoric they never once take an aggressive stance against the US, only a defensive one: stating that they are ready to retaliate if provoked. That is not like the kind of rhetoric you hear out of Osama Bin Laden or Saddam Hussein. If a 9/11 attack occurred where Iranians were implicated I'm willing to wager that the Iranian government would completely disassociate themselves with it, unlike Osama, who would revel in it and glorify it. I think people misunderstand Iran somewhat.sergeriver wrote:
I understand your point. But think this for a minute. Iran is in the Middle East. Venezuela is very close to the US geographically speaking, so if Iran is training terrorist cells in Venezuela they can make a lot of noise easier. Remember the border with Mexico is very long shit, and a Venezuelan and a Mexican aren't much different.
i am familiar with themtopal63 wrote:
You are not to familar with ATG's opinions now are you? That is not what he meant.sfarrar33 wrote:
well he might have a point since the number of shootings (mainly homicides and suicides) in America every day is supposidly something ridiculous like 80...topal63 wrote:
None of those 3; those are mere pawns, not real threats...
Ask ATG, he knows, he would say Americas biggest threat is itself, or its own citizens.
Terrorists might might a lot of fuss but still 80 per day is mad