Poll

Is modding Illegal?

Yes11%11% - 9
No71%71% - 54
Don't know17%17% - 13
Total: 76
aardfrith
Δ > x > ¥
+145|7221
Using a Playstation controller for the PC is not illegal.  If that's what you want to do, go ahead and do it, though I can't thinkof an earthly reason why you'd want a broken one.

Amazon (amongst others) already sells converters for this purpose: http://www.amazon.com/Playstation-PC-US … videogames
dead_rac00n
Member
+12|6911|DTC
Why not just asking for the item without telling him what you want to do with it ? He doesn't need to know.
Imagine a girl buying a cucumber explaining that she won't use it for cooking...

Last edited by dead_rac00n (2007-02-27 05:22:15)

Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|7165|Salt Lake City

This just comes down to ignorance on the part of the store.  While I can see their reasons for not discussing modding of the actual console, controllers are another story.  They don't want to run afoul of Sony, so they just won't deal with anything console mod related, but Sony couldn't give a shit if you mod a controller to work on your PC.
falafel
Member
+5|6759
modding screws (i didn't recall what word to use) the warranty, you can read that on every READ BEFORE USE/IMPORTANT paper on every electronical thingy, but it says nothing it's illegal

btw is reversed engineering that? does modding count as that?
Neoburn_1035
Medic!!!!!!!
+27|7257|OP, KS

cospengle wrote:

Can someone please tell me what you mean by a PC mod. I know you can change a chip or something in a Play Station and it will let you use copied games, but I get the impression Neoburn wanted to connect a console device to his PC. Is that right?
Like creating a Case mod......

aardfrith wrote:

Using a Playstation controller for the PC is not illegal.  If that's what you want to do, go ahead and do it, though I can't thinkof an earthly reason why you'd want a broken one.

Amazon (amongst others) already sells converters for this purpose: http://www.amazon.com/Playstation-PC-US … videogames
I just need certain parts inside the controller to create a toggle system.

Last edited by Neoburn_1035 (2007-02-27 16:18:13)

UON
Junglist Massive
+223|7082
Seems like a misunderstanding with the guy on the phone, so the poll is a bit misleading. 

Anyway, I'll give the answer I'd give if it was about mod chips...

The fact is that you should be allowed to write and run your own code on consoles.  With the full feature set.  Not crappy cut down APIs like they offer on the 360.  Just because it could be used for playing games off a DVD-R, doesn't mean it shouldn't be allowed.  Why not just ban the DVD burners since they are what copies the game in the first place?  They simply want the lifecycle of a bit of hardware to end when they decide it ends.  Homebrew games are coming out for many platforms which don't get commercial releases anymore, and the some of best ones even get made into cartridges/discs and sold.  Such development would be impossible if modding were actually successfully stopped, since the console manufacturers only release the development hardware to trusted developers who pay licence fees through the nose.

The slim pstwo's were a bitch to chip when they first came out... and with each model they try to make it harder... on the latest models Sony have even gone so far as to remove all the terminals which can be used to wire a harddisk to the mainboard.  That sort of shit is the real crime.  I don't hold it against them for trying, but honestly, they used to sell linux kits for the old ps2 which let people do pretty much anything with their PS2, and those kits flopped because they cost a bomb.  Linux is about getting the most out of any hardware, and was born of the hacker community.  Sony exploiting that fact to sell their little kits without giving anything of real substance back (such as the ability to run code from DVD-R as long as it's not a copyrighted game) is a crime.

You can chip a PS2 to run software other than copied games.  My PS2 boots directly into a DivX player from the flash memory of the DMS4, unless I hold down a button to tell it to boot from the dvd drive. 

And anyway, my PS2 doesn't even boot game backups since Sony equiped the pstwo with the shittiest, flimsy, sub-par laser unit they could find which from what I hear starts to fuck up pretty much as soon as the especially shortened warranty ends.  I believe it was reduced from 12 to 9 months on the slimline ps2s, although I never owned a fat one to check that out for sure.

Neoburn_1035 wrote:

I just need certain parts inside the controller to create a toggle system.
What, like the toggle circuit that lights up the analog light on the PS2 controller?  Does the PS1 controller have anything like that?

And do PS1/PS2 controllers even break? I've never come across one...

Last edited by UON (2007-02-27 16:40:01)

Neoburn_1035
Medic!!!!!!!
+27|7257|OP, KS

UON wrote:

Neoburn_1035 wrote:

I just need certain parts inside the controller to create a toggle system.
What, like the toggle circuit that lights up the analog light on the PS2 controller?  Does the PS1 controller have anything like that?

And do PS1/PS2 controllers even break? I've never come across one...
They do break. I had two or three at one time but I was like when would I ever need this. As for the toggle system it is to toggle lights, fans, and temp probe displays. If I get them to work I will post pictures and instructions on how to do it your self. Also I can use the thumb sticks to mod my psp to have a bigger thumb stick.

Last edited by Neoburn_1035 (2007-02-27 17:35:04)

BVC
Member
+325|7124
I don't know why Sony don't just make PS controllers for PCs, they'd sell a bunch of them!
Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6867|King Of The Islands

There is an 'imitation' PS2 controller. It comes out of the same factory and has the same build quality except it doesn't have 'Sony' on it and no circle, square, etc.

I know its not exact but its USB, has vibrate, its 2-for-1, and it just goes. It operates just like the real thing, even with the switch from Analogue to Digital controls, and you won't have to piss-fart about with getting a serial device to work on Windows.

https://umart.net/au/images/Z17S.jpg

There's also these things.
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7272|Alberta, Canada

Backupwayback wrote:

no its not.  IS that zbourd any better for bf2?
I use a Zboard, and I'm so used to it, it's hard for me to use a normal keyboard.

Only downside is that it's a pain in the kisser for typing, stupid break in the center of the keys. They inserted a picture fo soldier, so they had to move the keys around lol.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6990

UON wrote:

And do PS1/PS2 controllers even break? I've never come across one...
They do if you throw them at the screen hard enough............................
Neoburn_1035
Medic!!!!!!!
+27|7257|OP, KS

Cheez wrote:

There is an 'imitation' PS2 controller. It comes out of the same factory and has the same build quality except it doesn't have 'Sony' on it and no circle, square, etc.

I know its not exact but its USB, has vibrate, its 2-for-1, and it just goes. It operates just like the real thing, even with the switch from Analogue to Digital controls, and you won't have to piss-fart about with getting a serial device to work on Windows.

"Image deleted"

There's also these things.
I am not using them as controllers I am using them for the parts inside, the button switches and analog switches.

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