BF2S Forums Very Very intresting video!

yeah yeah i know, sorted!

yeah well, seems to be pritty damn true though dont you think ?

I duno? why did they say it was'nt there fault a British Soilder aged 25 was killed by those fuckin cunts in the a10? when the british LRV had british flags and orange freindly flag on it....why oh why does america bullshit....hell man you tell me.

Last edited by LostFate (2007-02-21 20:51:50)

LostFate wrote:

I duno? why did they say it was'nt there fault a British Soilder aged 25 was killed by those fuckin cunts in the a10? when the british LRV had british flags and orange freindly flag on it....why oh why does america bullshit....hell man you tell me.

friendly fire is part of warfare.  it sucks, but it happens.
making a public 'claim' about some terrible incident would not act in the best interest of 'winning' the war.  it lowers the moral and confidence of our troops.  we do not need mentally weak troops.

LostFate wrote:

I duno? why did they say it was'nt there fault a British Soilder aged 25 was killed by those fuckin cunts in the a10? when the british LRV had british flags and orange freindly flag on it....why oh why does america bullshit....hell man you tell me.

Why oh why can't you write a proper sentence and use spell check?  Why oh why can't the British forward air controller call in the strike correctly?

CoronadoSEAL wrote:

LostFate wrote:

yeah well, seems to be pritty damn true though dont you think ?

no.  it doesn't. 
my biggest questions to you theorists: if the governemtn staged 9/11, why didn't they stage the finding of WMD's?

I've asked the same question a few times, and surprise no real answer. Also, another conveniently overlooked point for all those that claim the Bush administration planned the attacks is the fact he was in office less than 6 months prior to the attacks. That's one hell of an inside job in that amount of time. There are legitimates gripes to be had with this administration, this crap however is just propaganda with a shitty soundtrack.

oug wrote:

How does Iraq fit in this?

Hello, and welcome to the Bf2s debate section.

usmarine2007 wrote:

LostFate wrote:

I duno? why did they say it was'nt there fault a British Soilder aged 25 was killed by those fuckin cunts in the a10? when the british LRV had british flags and orange freindly flag on it....why oh why does america bullshit....hell man you tell me.

Why oh why can't you write a proper sentence and use spell check?  Why oh why can't the British forward air controller call in the strike correctly?

Why are you criticising him? He can type what and how he wants. Hmm I wonder if your reply has anything to do with being over patriotic in trying to say 9/11 was not an inside job.

I demand that 7 minutes of my life back.

LostFate wrote:

I duno? why did they say it was'nt there fault a British Soilder aged 25 was killed by those fuckin cunts in the a10? when the british LRV had british flags and orange freindly flag on it....why oh why does america bullshit....hell man you tell me.

When an American trooper kills a British trooper it's because he's a ignorant, stupid yippee-ki-yay Rambo redneck dumbass with no brain, eyes, or training who wants to kill British.

When a British trooper kills a British trooper, it's a complete sincere accident and thus should be reacted to as if it never happened.



Yes, American troops kill more friendlies than British. More Americans than British? Pff, that doesn't matter...

[/sarcastic America-is-taking-over-the-world theory]

usmarine2007 wrote:

LostFate wrote:

I duno? why did they say it was'nt there fault a British Soilder aged 25 was killed by those fuckin cunts in the a10? when the british LRV had british flags and orange freindly flag on it....why oh why does america bullshit....hell man you tell me.

Why oh why can't you write a proper sentence and use spell check?  Why oh why can't the British forward air controller call in the strike correctly?

Now Ive seen the video of the HUD of A10 and for once i find myself not blaming the pilot because he asked numerous times during the video and even asked for verification on where the friendly convoy was. An the ground control say many time yes that is definitely your target and they aren't friendly they are 800 metres to the west or some thing of that like. Then they go in for an attack run and make a definite hit then the guy on the radio at ground control says about 2 minutes later you just hit a friendly and killed one person for sure from the British convoy. The pilot breaks down and can't believe it almost to point of being sick at the realisation of what just happened.

After hearing and watching this as a Brit i can't hold him accountable its the system that's at fault. I think its either that ground controller not being careful enough to check because the pilot asks whether the orange strips on them which is the friendly mark and the ground controller just says its the colour insurgent missiles or rockets which he was clearly mistaken. So he either needs better information giving to him or he should be much more careful about listening to the pilot calls and at the end of the day if their is any doubt they should abort and wait for conformation.

Its just shows that even with all this technology of guided missiles is all been developed well but we haven't looked at better IFF systems to stop friendly fire i mean i pretty sure planes have transponders so that they can be track by their ground controllers so why has this not been implemented on the ground. Its exist technology so if US and Brits are the most advanced fighting forces around then why have we not implemented these quicker and before we engaged in a war that we clearly aren't equipped to deal without  getting friendly causalities.

We should be think now about IFF and protecting our selves from our selves and combat awareness than killing the enemy because the latter we spend far to much time on and that's how we arrived at this problem especially the fact that the enemy in Iraq isn't an army or does it have equal resources therefore they cannot fight back when we drop a guided bomb on them at least not directly so why do we spend so much money on weapons than protection.

Sometimes a good defence is a good offence but not when it kills you own men in the process.

Last edited by Recoil555 (2007-02-26 09:38:11)

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

In short, the ideal is truly somewhere between the people fearing their government and the government fearing them.

Why does either have to fear the other? Whatever happened to trust?

I don't trust the government, nor should I or anyone else.

Then again, I don't trust most people, but again, trust is something to be earned.  I think that's why trust is really something that shouldn't be that common -- especially with regards to government.