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Funny how all you leftist think that, and all the right of center folks think I hit a homerun.jonsimon wrote:
ATG's thread got owned by Cam's wittier thread.
Very true, both threads are very funny, I just took them both as tongue and cheek.ATG wrote:
Funny how all you leftist think that, and all the right of center folks think I hit a homerun.jonsimon wrote:
ATG's thread got owned by Cam's wittier thread.
While Cameron and I laugh at the score and look on in wonder as people argue about it.
Sheesh.
I don't believe in either, what does that make me?ATG wrote:
1. You have to be against capital punishment, but support abortion on demand.
Isn't Regan and big business responsible for destroying the Unions which protected the workers. Having the effect of widening the gap between rich and poor. Its now as cheep to pay a high school educated worker in Alabama than say Poland. Compare the GNP of both countries to see.ATG wrote:
2. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity.
When was the last time Iran, China or Korea killed an American citizen? When was the last time an American lifted a gun and killed a fellow American? At least once in the past 24 hours.ATG wrote:
3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Iran or Chinese and North Korean communists.
The soccer mums of America still produce twice as much as the Chinese and there's like 4 times more of them. Anyway, the problem is now, not in 5-10 years when china takes over as the biggest global polluter. And what, because China becomes No1, there is no responsibility on the US when that time comes? Its not the feckin Billboard charts!!!!ATG wrote:
5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical changes in the earth's climate or uncontrolled air-pollution by industry in China …and more affected by soccer moms driving SUV's.
Agreed. With ATG at the helmATG wrote:
18. You have to believe that this message is a part of a vast, right-wing conspiracy.
The source you quoted that from, perhaps?ATG wrote:
1. You have to be against capital punishment, but support abortion on demand.
2. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity.
3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear
weapons technology in the hands of Iran or Chinese and North Korean communists.
4. You have to believe that there was no art before federal funding.
5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical changes in the earth's climate or
uncontrolled air-pollution by industry in China …and more affected by soccer moms driving SUV's.
6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial, but being homosexual is natural.
7. You have to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.
8. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach 4th graders how to read is somehow qualified to
teach those same kids about sex.
9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but PETA activists do.
10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.
11. You have to believe that Mel Gibson actually spent $25 million of his own money to make "The Passion of the
Christ" for financial gain only.
12. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is
good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.
13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.
14. You have to believe that Bill Clinton, Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American
history than Thomas Jefferson, Gen. Robert E. Lee, and Thomas Edison.
15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides are not.
16. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried is because the right
people haven't been in charge.
17. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying drag queens and transvestites should be
constitutionally protected …and “Manger scenes” at Christmas should be illegal.
18. You have to believe that this message is a part of a vast, right-wing conspiracy.
Did I miss anything?
My thread was debate worthy.JahManRed wrote:
Agreed. With ATG at the helm
Its sad to watch the American People split so neatly into two groups. Ive noticed it polarize even more over the 18months Ive been posting here. I agreed with half of the points in the OP and disagreed with the other. If I was American would I be excluded or would I have to vote for that Nader guy? I am similarly split with CP post. Seams i would be a Republican Liberal Neo Con.
zomg piss of you wanker asshole.Bubbalo wrote:
Oh, yes, because the right wing on this forum are so logical, calm, and reasonable.
This forum is cesspool of immaturity and misinformation, but for the most part, the right is more calm, logical, and reasonable...mostly because they are older and more matured. When you bring logic and reason into a debate, the average liberal user simply doesn't want to hear it nor directly address it. They will either get emotionally involved, which is why so many threads turn into flame wars and also why so many retaliatory threads are made, OR they will throw something completely irrelevant into the argument and put words into your mouth to make it appear as if they had a point. I used to point this out as it occurred, but unsurprisingly you guys shrugged it off. Now Kmarion has been making note of it yet you guys continue as if nothing is wrong. Kmarion (I think) put it best when he used the analogy of a little child screaming and covering his ears when confronted with reason and logic.Bubbalo wrote:
Oh, yes, because the right wing on this forum are so logical, calm, and reasonable.
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Look who's talking about quotes out of context and taking it personal! You've outdone yourself on this one Fancy_Pollux. LOLFancy_Pollux wrote:
The best is when CameronPoe gets REALLY pissed off and tries to insult you by quoting you out of context in his sig. He always takes it personal and harbors that retaliatory nature. Such is true with the majority of the "liberal" populace here. I can think of a few names right off the bat.ATG wrote:
My thread was debate worthy.JahManRed wrote:
Agreed. With ATG at the helm
Its sad to watch the American People split so neatly into two groups. Ive noticed it polarize even more over the 18months Ive been posting here. I agreed with half of the points in the OP and disagreed with the other. If I was American would I be excluded or would I have to vote for that Nader guy? I am similarly split with CP post. Seams i would be a Republican Liberal Neo Con.
These are things conservatives believe liberal think.
CAmerons thread was retalitory troll meat.
In light of how things are going between the two threads I would offer a armistice by agreeing to delete mine if he deletes his.
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I vote we have both threads closed by a mod rather than deleted having made this final statement:ATG wrote:
Quick Cameron, lets euthanize this crap.
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Actually, according to the numbers we actually have, it's closer to being 50/50, Pollux.Fancy_Pollux wrote:
This forum is cesspool of immaturity and misinformation, but for the most part, the right is more calm, logical, and reasonable...mostly because they are older and more matured. When you bring logic and reason into a debate, the average liberal user simply doesn't want to hear it nor directly address it. They will either get emotionally involved, which is why so many threads turn into flame wars and also why so many retaliatory threads are made, OR they will throw something completely irrelevant into the argument and put words into your mouth to make it appear as if they had a point. I used to point this out as it occurred, but unsurprisingly you guys shrugged it off. Now Kmarion has been making note of it yet you guys continue as if nothing is wrong. Kmarion (I think) put it best when he used the analogy of a little child screaming and covering his ears when confronted with reason and logic.Bubbalo wrote:
Oh, yes, because the right wing on this forum are so logical, calm, and reasonable.
95% of this forum is Liberal.
95% of threads end in flamewars.
95% of threads degrade into the same cliche topics: "I hate Bush", "I hate the US", "We shouldn't be in Iraq", etc. etc.
Do you see a pattern? Or is this just some amazing coincidence?
Note: I am specifically referring to the liberal populace on this forum, not in general. The "what is your age" poll or whatever it's called revealed that most of you are middle-school to high-school aged children. So you can see the opinions and whining brought forth here are in no way similar to those of the liberal populace outside of this forum. One can only hope that they will grow out of it.
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All and all, esteemed members of the forums, I'd say the laugh was on you.CameronPoe wrote:
I vote we have both threads closed by a mod rather than deleted having made this final statement:ATG wrote:
Quick Cameron, lets euthanize this crap.
a) People on the forum have both laughed at how 'accurate' the description of the 'opposition' is in both threads. The fact of the matter is ATG & I have described extremists from either end of a particular political spectrum, neither of which reflects what ATG or I represent. They are somewhat of a parody of reality, with a few subtle hints of truth in each, although in some cases grossly exaggerated for comic effect.
b) People on this forum have taken offence and been affronted by the respective descriptions of 'liberal' and 'neo-conservative', which shows tremendous short-sightedness and gang mentality in said individuals as they scramble to state why their particular 'camp' isn't described accurately in what are quite obviously descriptions of extremists. To associate yourself with either description or to have it cause offence is a worrying sign - I should hope but a few people on this forum are anything like those characters described by me & ATG.
So in finishing I would like to say this:
- We are all INDIVIDUAL human beings that should not belong to any one camp. We are all UNIQUE people who should strive to accentuate our own particular views rather than feel content in the bosom of one political camp or another. Polar societies are unhealthy - plurality is what keeps a civilisation healthy. Respect the opinions of all individuals of all political persuasions except those that succomb to extremism and propagate divided societies where the 'middle way' is made impossible. Down with labels.
CameronPoe out.
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