I'm pretty sure someone's addressed this but you really don't know much about US history if you're going to say this. Until Bush allows a new Civil War to happen or something like that, he's still above some people.Bubbalo wrote:
You seem to constantly go on about how terrible Clinton is compared to Bush, but so far as I can see there is no comparison: Bush is a terrible leader by any measure, compared to any other US president.
He admitted he failed getting him killed. He tried, but he failed. I would like to see GWB having the same balls to admit all his failures. Remember, he said: "I tried, and I failed". That tells a lot of a guy. Clinton deserves all my respect and admiration as president and as a person.usmarine2007 wrote:
Not admitting he did not want to attack bin laden because he did not want it to seem like he was diverting attention for one.sergeriver wrote:
Which are his big lies?
He didn't try. He launched ineffective cruise missile attacks after countless terrorist attacks on US targets.sergeriver wrote:
He admitted he failed getting him killed. He tried, but he failed. I would like to see GWB having the same balls to admit all his failures. Remember, he said: "I tried, and I failed". That tells a lot of a guy. Clinton deserves all my respect and admiration as president and as a person.usmarine2007 wrote:
Not admitting he did not want to attack bin laden because he did not want it to seem like he was diverting attention for one.sergeriver wrote:
Which are his big lies?
What did you want him to do? He launched several missiles against targets linked to al Qaeda in Afghanistan. Perhaps you think he should have invaded the country like GWB, who got Osama btw.usmarine2007 wrote:
He didn't try. He launched ineffective cruise missile attacks after countless terrorist attacks on US targets.sergeriver wrote:
He admitted he failed getting him killed. He tried, but he failed. I would like to see GWB having the same balls to admit all his failures. Remember, he said: "I tried, and I failed". That tells a lot of a guy. Clinton deserves all my respect and admiration as president and as a person.usmarine2007 wrote:
Not admitting he did not want to attack bin laden because he did not want it to seem like he was diverting attention for one.
Yes. God forbid he go in and get him in Afghanistan. But hey, it all worked out right?sergeriver wrote:
What did you want him to do? He launched several missiles against targets linked to al Qaeda in Afghanistan. Perhaps you think he should have invaded the country like GWB, who got Osama btw.
Did all work out right invading Afghanistan? I don't get your point. Clinton had the same results as Dubya catching Osama Bin Laden. The difference is Clinton didn't waste billions doing so. Not to mention the waste of lives.usmarine2007 wrote:
Yes. God forbid he go in and get him in Afghanistan. But hey, it all worked out right?sergeriver wrote:
What did you want him to do? He launched several missiles against targets linked to al Qaeda in Afghanistan. Perhaps you think he should have invaded the country like GWB, who got Osama btw.
Well, Bush actually went into bin Laden's home and tried to get after him, which is more than Clinton did.sergeriver wrote:
Did all work out right invading Afghanistan? I don't get your point. Clinton had the same results as Dubya catching Osama Bin Laden. The difference is Clinton didn't waste billions doing so. Not to mention the waste of lives.usmarine2007 wrote:
Yes. God forbid he go in and get him in Afghanistan. But hey, it all worked out right?sergeriver wrote:
What did you want him to do? He launched several missiles against targets linked to al Qaeda in Afghanistan. Perhaps you think he should have invaded the country like GWB, who got Osama btw.
More wasted resources with the same result.UGADawgs wrote:
Well, Bush actually went into bin Laden's home and tried to get after him, which is more than Clinton did.sergeriver wrote:
Did all work out right invading Afghanistan? I don't get your point. Clinton had the same results as Dubya catching Osama Bin Laden. The difference is Clinton didn't waste billions doing so. Not to mention the waste of lives.usmarine2007 wrote:
Yes. God forbid he go in and get him in Afghanistan. But hey, it all worked out right?
Did he get him? How much money did he waste?UGADawgs wrote:
Well, Bush actually went into bin Laden's home and tried to get after him, which is more than Clinton did.sergeriver wrote:
Did all work out right invading Afghanistan? I don't get your point. Clinton had the same results as Dubya catching Osama Bin Laden. The difference is Clinton didn't waste billions doing so. Not to mention the waste of lives.usmarine2007 wrote:
Yes. God forbid he go in and get him in Afghanistan. But hey, it all worked out right?
Waste? We haven't been attacked since then, which is more than I can say for Clinton.sergeriver wrote:
Did he get him? How much money did he waste?
Are you blaming Clinton for the 9/11 attacks?usmarine2007 wrote:
Waste? We haven't been attacked since then, which is more than I can say for Clinton.sergeriver wrote:
Did he get him? How much money did he waste?
The point is that while Bush failed, his effort was certainly more valiant than Clinton's.sergeriver wrote:
Did he get him? How much money did he waste?UGADawgs wrote:
Well, Bush actually went into bin Laden's home and tried to get after him, which is more than Clinton did.sergeriver wrote:
Did all work out right invading Afghanistan? I don't get your point. Clinton had the same results as Dubya catching Osama Bin Laden. The difference is Clinton didn't waste billions doing so. Not to mention the waste of lives.
I blame A LOT of people. But he sat by and watched the Cole, two embassies, the 1993 WTC attacks, and a few other incidents around the world go unpunished.sergeriver wrote:
Are you blaming Clinton for the 9/11 attacks?
QFEusmarine2007 wrote:
I blame A LOT of people. But he sat by and watched the Cole, two embassies, the 1993 WTC attacks, and a few other incidents around the world go unpunished.sergeriver wrote:
Are you blaming Clinton for the 9/11 attacks?
Clinton didn't sit and watch as you said. He did freeze bank accounts related to al Qaeda and did start military actions against Afghanistan and Sudan. He was chasing a ghost. He took notice of it. But GWB never realized what he was trying to catch, but he accomplished the same results, wasting a lot of money and lives.usmarine2007 wrote:
I blame A LOT of people. But he sat by and watched the Cole, two embassies, the 1993 WTC attacks, and a few other incidents around the world go unpunished.sergeriver wrote:
Are you blaming Clinton for the 9/11 attacks?
A ghost that was spotted twice by TRODPINT?sergeriver wrote:
Clinton didn't sit and watch as you said. He did freeze bank accounts related to al Qaeda and did start military actions against Afghanistan and Sudan. He was chasing a ghost. He took notice of it. But GWB never realized what he was trying to catch, but he accomplished the same results, wasting a lot of money and lives.usmarine2007 wrote:
I blame A LOT of people. But he sat by and watched the Cole, two embassies, the 1993 WTC attacks, and a few other incidents around the world go unpunished.sergeriver wrote:
Are you blaming Clinton for the 9/11 attacks?
Such as?UGADawgs wrote:
Until Bush allows a new Civil War to happen or something like that, he's still above some people.
So the way Bush has handled things is way better ? .... how long until the US is bankrupt ?usmarine2007 wrote:
I blame A LOT of people. But he sat by and watched the Cole, two embassies, the 1993 WTC attacks, and a few other incidents around the world go unpunished.sergeriver wrote:
Are you blaming Clinton for the 9/11 attacks?
Yeah i know, another jack-in-the-box-statement by the ignorant Norwegian prick !
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I thought we were really supposed to be talking about Clinton. But as usual, we are talking about Bush. GG Serge.Varegg wrote:
So the way Bush has handled things is way better ? .... how long until the US is bankrupt ?
Yeah i know, another jack-in-the-box-statement by the ignorant Norwegian prick !
Ok, the Aussie's dont want him. Maybe the England will take him?<<<FTDM>>>Gen.Raven wrote:
no, its ok you can keep him.ATG wrote:
I wish he'd make a contibuition to Australia instead.
Malloy must go
That operation was planned under the presidency of...It seems he did try to catch Osama, but he failed.usmarine2007 wrote:
A ghost that was spotted twice by TRODPINT?sergeriver wrote:
Clinton didn't sit and watch as you said. He did freeze bank accounts related to al Qaeda and did start military actions against Afghanistan and Sudan. He was chasing a ghost. He took notice of it. But GWB never realized what he was trying to catch, but he accomplished the same results, wasting a lot of money and lives.usmarine2007 wrote:
I blame A LOT of people. But he sat by and watched the Cole, two embassies, the 1993 WTC attacks, and a few other incidents around the world go unpunished.
Helps if you pull the trigger.sergeriver wrote:
That operation was planned under the presidency of...It seems he did try to catch Osama, but he failed.usmarine2007 wrote:
A ghost that was spotted twice by TRODPINT?
maybe he was too busy trying not end up in prison for getting a BJ?usmarine2007 wrote:
Helps if you pull the trigger.sergeriver wrote:
That operation was planned under the presidency of...It seems he did try to catch Osama, but he failed.usmarine2007 wrote:
A ghost that was spotted twice by TRODPINT?
Did he order not to pull the trigger?usmarine2007 wrote:
Helps if you pull the trigger.sergeriver wrote:
That operation was planned under the presidency of...It seems he did try to catch Osama, but he failed.usmarine2007 wrote:
A ghost that was spotted twice by TRODPINT?
Jesus Christ Serge. No wonder why you like Clinton. What is your definition of is?sergeriver wrote:
Did he order not to pull the trigger?usmarine2007 wrote:
Helps if you pull the trigger.