I think you've hit upon the big problem with the UK government. Labour was a socialist party which believed in supporting the working class while conservatives liked the rich people and privatisation. But the problem is that Tony Blair's New Labour seems more Conservative than the current conservative party. He gets votes from the loads of people on benefits who he's nice too and hard working typical labour supporters who he taxes to death vote for him purely because they've always voted for labour and their father did because Conservatives are evilTurquoise wrote:
Tony is very anti-socialist, from what I understand. He may be the leader of the Labour Party, but he seems to have basically diminished the U.K.'s social programs. At the same time, your taxes are still high. That's gotta suck.
usmarine2007, you do preach it to your children by your speech and actions. as for dezert's post, wow you are the epitome of what my conservative friends think are destroying the image of their party. I am a liberal, yes...I said it, I have many friends who are conservative, but we can realize that politics are not life and shouldn't govern every thought and action, that's why after a good debate, we can go to a kegger and make asses of ourselves together, without animosity.
I don't have children. And I am not preaching the extermination of anyone to a group of people in the name of Allah like fodder tried to compare.Lucrative_Glory wrote:
usmarine2007, you do preach it to your children by your speech and actions.
Let me clarify. I agree with everything deez said, except for the extermination part.
He's not anti-socialist, he's stalinist. Destroy the country, tax big business up the ass, create complete poverty and elect himself leader.crimson_grunt wrote:
I think you've hit upon the big problem with the UK government. Labour was a socialist party which believed in supporting the working class while conservatives liked the rich people and privatisation. But the problem is that Tony Blair's New Labour seems more Conservative than the current conservative party. He gets votes from the loads of people on benefits who he's nice too and hard working typical labour supporters who he taxes to death vote for him purely because they've always voted for labour and their father did because Conservatives are evilTurquoise wrote:
Tony is very anti-socialist, from what I understand. He may be the leader of the Labour Party, but he seems to have basically diminished the U.K.'s social programs. At the same time, your taxes are still high. That's gotta suck.
The big problem is that the House of Commons is full of morons, chavs, and junkies.
Also, he is NOT nice to people on benefits. I spent two hours sitting around waiting for them to do something about not having paid me any for months in an office full of screaming kids, hideous old people, and the smell of decay. He's being nice to civil servants, who make up 60% ofthe population.
Somebody call al-queda, we need him blown up.
I didn't say he's anti socialist as such but i think he is using a socialist party to achieve his own completely different means. But yeah I agree with some of what you say about him.Skorpy-chan wrote:
He's not anti-socialist, he's stalinist. Destroy the country, tax big business up the ass, create complete poverty and elect himself leader.
The big problem is that the House of Commons is full of morons, chavs, and junkies.
That's just the experience benefits of claiming benefits who ever is in charge of the government. They're supposed to make you feel like shit so you stop claiming and leave them alone. I had to claim benefits for a bit before Blair came in to power and you've just described it to a teeSkorpy-chan wrote:
Also, he is NOT nice to people on benefits. I spent two hours sitting around waiting for them to do something about not having paid me any for months in an office full of screaming kids, hideous old people, and the smell of decay.
I think when it's possible for so many people to stay on benefits infinitely instead of getting a job and pay taxes somethings not right.
That's what I hate. If it were a terrorist, that's the difference but when the word and Muslim become synonymous, then the public has gone down the poop chute and the terrorists would be winning..:XDR:.PureFodder wrote:
Strange. If a Muslim said that about Americans half of this forum would throw a hissy fit about how evil Muslims are, but if a conservative advocated the extermination of half of the western world people actually agree.usmarine2007 wrote:
Smitty5613 wrote:
im sober.... and i agree with him 100%
It sounds like America is headed in that direction. The Democrats are pretty watered down in their liberalism, but they still get flack for being too liberal.crimson_grunt wrote:
I think you've hit upon the big problem with the UK government. Labour was a socialist party which believed in supporting the working class while conservatives liked the rich people and privatisation. But the problem is that Tony Blair's New Labour seems more Conservative than the current conservative party. He gets votes from the loads of people on benefits who he's nice too and hard working typical labour supporters who he taxes to death vote for him purely because they've always voted for labour and their father did because Conservatives are evilTurquoise wrote:
Tony is very anti-socialist, from what I understand. He may be the leader of the Labour Party, but he seems to have basically diminished the U.K.'s social programs. At the same time, your taxes are still high. That's gotta suck.
From what I understand, he's not taxing big business up the ass, he's taxing the average citizen up the ass. A flat 22% for income tax? I'm sure the rich people love that. Rich people here pay closer to 28-33%, while the working class pays less.Skorpy-chan wrote:
He's not anti-socialist, he's stalinist. Destroy the country, tax big business up the ass, create complete poverty and elect himself leader.crimson_grunt wrote:
I think you've hit upon the big problem with the UK government. Labour was a socialist party which believed in supporting the working class while conservatives liked the rich people and privatisation. But the problem is that Tony Blair's New Labour seems more Conservative than the current conservative party. He gets votes from the loads of people on benefits who he's nice too and hard working typical labour supporters who he taxes to death vote for him purely because they've always voted for labour and their father did because Conservatives are evilTurquoise wrote:
Tony is very anti-socialist, from what I understand. He may be the leader of the Labour Party, but he seems to have basically diminished the U.K.'s social programs. At the same time, your taxes are still high. That's gotta suck.
The big problem is that the House of Commons is full of morons, chavs, and junkies.
Also, he is NOT nice to people on benefits. I spent two hours sitting around waiting for them to do something about not having paid me any for months in an office full of screaming kids, hideous old people, and the smell of decay. He's being nice to civil servants, who make up 60% ofthe population.
Somebody call al-queda, we need him blown up.
Personally, I think our bracket system is way better than the flat tax bullshit in the U.K.
True, but that's the beauty of a minority government. It keeps people from going too far in either direction.Drakef wrote:
I disagree. The policies of Stephen Harper are ones I find negative. He is more far right than he lets on; the minority government situation restricts his ability to do what he truly wishes.Turquoise wrote:
Canada seems to have found a good balance though. Stephen Harper is a much more sensible conservative than the typical Republican is....
You sir, are a fucking idiot. Yes, lets exterminate some people, that will be fun. Let's exterminate them because they have different opinions about "things" and "stuff". I mean, by all means, no one on EARTH should disagree with you, that would be true lunacy.Dezerteagal5 wrote:
Cause liberals are fucking stupid, they dont think for themselves!!! And they dont deserve change!! what they deserve is extermination!!
Ohh but wait a tick....if they don't agree with you, then that means they don't think what you think. But they must be thinking something because whatever they're thinking is in direct opposition to what you are thinking. Ohh my fucking god, they are thinking for themselves!! How stupid of them for having an opinion. Light the furnaces at the death camps, we must round up these non-believers.
Glock 13? You mean, Glock 31? I know not of this Glock 13 you speak of. I doubt you even have one and if you do, you don't deserve it. The military protects you right to own that gun, not to commit genocide. Also, the constitution, per say, didn't give you the right to carry the gun, the Bill of Rights did. Granted it is part of the constitution but still, it's like saying America gave you a potato when in fact it was Idaho.Dezerteagal5 wrote:
By my Glock 13 that i have the fucking right to carry!!!! the FUCKING RIGHT THAT THE CONSTITUTION GAVE ME!!!!! and the military risks there lives to keep every day!
Well, now that we've ruled alcohol out of the equation all were left with is naturally occurring mental retardation.Dezerteagal5 wrote:
Im perfectly sober