BVC
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Now I know most of you won't care...but nonetheless...

Theres a small Japanese whaling fleet in Antarctica's Ross Sea.

Sea Sheppard Protestors have hassled the fleet.

They left, then there was a fire (coincidental, but not regarded as suspicious) onboard the whaling fleets "mothership", the Nisshan Maru.  One crew member of the Nisshan Maru is missing, and has been for about two days now, though it is believed he has not been lost overboard.  Most of the crew have been evacuated to the support ships, with 20-30 out of 130 or so remaining on board.  Theres also a bit of fuel oil and other nasty chemicals there, and the ship is right on the doorstep of one of the world's last untouched areas.

There seems to have been no formal dialogue between NZ and Japan, though ministers and officials have had their say...the area is a NZ antartica territorial claim and as I understand NZ has to help if Japan asks, according to various treaties/agreements.

The closest ship to the Nisshan Maru is the Greeanpeace vessel Esperanza, this vessel was going to the area to protest/attempt to disrupt whaling attempts.  There has also been talk of asking the US to send an icebreaker from McMurdo Station.

The problem is, Greenpeace has (not formally) been called a "terrorist organisation"; by the same Japanese official who asked for Australian and NZ assistance.

What do you think should be done and who do you think should do it?  What do you think NZ should do?

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Now, even if you're in the "fuck hippies" crowd, environmental shit is part of who you are here.  But also, so is staying true to your word...sometimes belatedly, but better late than never, right?

Now I don't like the fact that I think this...I really don't like it, but I believe that even though the whalers are being cunts and fishing illegally on our turf, we should just bite the bullet; help their ship get back to safety and do what we can for the crews wellbeing, even if it means telling Greenpeace to STFU and tow the ship to Invercargill or Dunedin (the nearest reasonable-sized NZ ports) for repairs.  Protesting and shit is one thing, but when lives are at stake it should be put on hold until everybody can yell at each other safely.

Damn identity conflicts aye...

Last edited by Pubic (2007-02-16 03:02:56)

Jestar
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Dude, your Sig Makes me Horny.
I_SUCK_999
2 old & slow to pwnd U
+5|6878|Alice Springs
first of all "greenpeace" should rescue the crew and assist in whatever way it can - their protest at the cost of human lives is reprehensible.

and I deplore what the Japanese are doing - so sink their damn whaling ships on sight. evacuate the crew first of course.
.:XDR:.PureFodder
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I say help the crew, try to save the ship if possible. Worry about the whales later.
Jestar
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https://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/Warlord_Malice/misc/Fat_sig.jpg <Why would we wanna save these Whales?

Last edited by Jestar12345 (2007-02-16 04:51:12)

I_SUCK_999
2 old & slow to pwnd U
+5|6878|Alice Springs

Jestar12345 wrote:

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193 … at_sig.jpg <Why would we wanna save these Whales?
man you have a problem (laughing = joke)
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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Arr, sink the whalers!

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-02-16 07:13:53)

ATG
Banned
+5,233|6959|Global Command
One Neocon casting a vote for the sinking of commercial whaling ships.

*edit
Evacuate the crew first and they will return.

Make them walk the plank, tow their ships to deep sea and sink them, or sell them to scrap yards in India.


Whaling ends the next day.
Fuck people, save the whales.

Last edited by ATG (2007-02-16 08:25:10)

[F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi
Why walk when you can dance?
+77|7017|sWEEDen
I´m a fat whale...save me!
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
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ATG wrote:

One Neocon casting a vote for the sinking of commercial whaling ships.

*edit
Evacuate the crew first and they will return.

Make them walk the plank, tow their ships to deep sea and sink them, or sell them to scrap yards in India.


Whaling ends the next day.
Fuck people, save the whales.
Shock! Horror! I actually agree with ATG on something.

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2007-02-16 09:46:39)

RicardoBlanco
The English
+177|6998|Oxford
The whales being hunted are not rare or endangered. 

.'. no problem.
mcminty
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RicardoBlanco wrote:

The whales being hunted are not rare or endangered. 

.'. no problem.
So lets hunt them 'till they are?



Fuck the whalers.


Mcminty.
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7273|Reykjavík, Iceland.

RicardoBlanco wrote:

The whales being hunted are not rare or endangered. 

.'. no problem.
That's exactly why us on Iceland started whaling again, they're not endangered anymore, stop whining!
arson
Member
+99|7067|New York

mcminty wrote:

RicardoBlanco wrote:

The whales being hunted are not rare or endangered. 

.'. no problem.
So lets hunt them 'till they are?



Fuck the whalers.


Mcminty.
=MCHD= arush5268d
Member
+46|6932|Houston, TX
If they weren't whaling for endagered species...why mess with the crew?  Why hate them?  Not all whales are endagered guys, and modern whaling now is far different from what it once was; which is why Iceland has resumed some whaling.
=MCHD= arush5268d
Member
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mcminty wrote:

RicardoBlanco wrote:

The whales being hunted are not rare or endangered. 

.'. no problem.
So lets hunt them 'till they are?



Fuck the whalers.


Mcminty.
Do you eat seafood, or any animal products for that matter?  Chickens could become endagered of KFC suddenly became very popular all over the world....but I don't see people protesting restaurants.
mcminty
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=MCHD= arush5268d wrote:

Do you eat seafood, or any animal products for that matter?  Chickens could become endagered of KFC suddenly became very popular all over the world....but I don't see people protesting restaurants.
Yes, I occasionally eat seafood, although not very often. And I don't see KFC becoming globally popular.


The difference between 'KFC chickens' and whales is that the chickens are bread for the food industry. I highly doubt than anybody breeds whales for food.

Mcminty.
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7273|Reykjavík, Iceland.

mcminty wrote:

=MCHD= arush5268d wrote:

Do you eat seafood, or any animal products for that matter?  Chickens could become endagered of KFC suddenly became very popular all over the world....but I don't see people protesting restaurants.
Yes, I occasionally eat seafood, although not very often. And I don't see KFC becoming globally popular.


The difference between 'KFC chickens' and whales is that the chickens are bread for the food industry. I highly doubt than anybody breeds whales for food.

Mcminty.
KFC is disgusting IMO, almost all American fast-food chains are

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Most of the whales we kill anyway are 80 years old and their liver is 90% diesel lol. That's why we sell the meat to the japs, w00t.
I_SUCK_999
2 old & slow to pwnd U
+5|6878|Alice Springs
sorry - old topic - sort off.

hunting the odd whale every now and again would probably be reasonable, but the wholesale slaughter the Japanese are doing is totally unacceptable.

How many whales does the Icelanderish (sic) people kill ?? didn't know they wuz doing it again.
JahManRed
wank
+646|7058|IRELAND

Tow the ship into NZ waters, give those hippys a couple of howitzers and let them blow shit outa her. (I know two green peace members and they are psychopaths who would love some target practice.

I don't respect the Japaneses right to kill any endangered species to get two fucking drips of "special oil" from it's pancreas so some old rich frustrated Japanese business man has a better chance of getting a bonner at the expense of us all.
UnknownRanger
Squirrels, natures little speedbump.
+610|6775|Cali

Jestar12345 wrote:

Dude, your Sig Makes me Horny.
rofl
buttersIRL
Member
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the greenpeace ship offered to help but the japanese refused, and sinking the ship isn't going to help the whales when all the fuel and chemicals onboard leak into the sea.

I wonder if the missing crewman sabotaged the ship and then swam off with his whale buddies like Aquaman ?

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