Schwarzelungen
drunklenglungen
+133|6723|Bloomington Indiana
i gotta say, generalizing all muslims bugs me. as in any religion...you get some crazies...but not all of them are bad. some christians are bad, some arent. some muslims are extremists...some arent...every muslim ive met has been nothing short of a great person to me. one of my best friends here in bloomington is Iranian...and we fasted ramadan together last year....(one of my better experiences in life no doubt)

dont get me wrong, im very patriotic. but listening to the stories my friends serving in iraq have told me, i dont really feel like our government was justified in what it did, nor did it tell the whole truth.
those guys are coming home different people...and confused about what they were doing there (i guess it happens in war, but its hard to see it happen to friends).
last i saw my friend...we drank a bit too much the night before he left for round 2 in iraq...the stories they have...if everyone heard them...there'd be no more wars. pictures say a thousand words...but listening to the stories first hand has a far greater effect IMO.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6794|Columbus, Ohio

Bertster7 wrote:

I am quite aware of how often these sorts of protests go on. Almost as often as Muslims speak out against terrorism.
I am willing to bet some of the same muslims who speak out against terrorism are some of the same people in vids like this.  There is a VERY good book ,it is called "Because They Hate." ...
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Re … p?ID=24567
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6794|Columbus, Ohio

Schwarzelungen wrote:

i gotta say, generalizing all muslims bugs me. as in any religion...you get some crazies...but not all of them are bad.
I look at it this way.  You have the people in vids like this, who we call moderate.  We consider them moderate because they don't blow people up.  Then you have the extremists, who blow people up.  These moderates are supporting the extremists, which IMO do not make them moderate.

P.S.  I hate using these stupid terms.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6956|Global Command

Bubbalo wrote:

How many of them portaryed Jesus as a murderer, and his followers as acting purely in furtherance of their own interest, whilst defying a long held tenet of Chrisianity?
https://i15.tinypic.com/40ct3rl.jpg
mr.hrundi
Wurstwassereis
+68|6864|Germany

ATG wrote:

This is exactly why I sometimes feel we need mass deportations.
You should have lived in Germany 70 years ago. after reading through these forums for a while, I'm pretty sure you would have liked it there. I can only hope for you that you have blonde hair and blue eyes.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7008|SE London

usmarine2007 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

I am quite aware of how often these sorts of protests go on. Almost as often as Muslims speak out against terrorism.
I am willing to bet some of the same muslims who speak out against terrorism are some of the same people in vids like this.  There is a VERY good book ,it is called "Because They Hate." ...
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Re … p?ID=24567
That's possible. I don't know either way.

One major criticism I have of this video is that it starts with a mass Muslim exodus (I couldn't make out what they were saying either, something about Israel, probably something bad), we get no indication of what has caused this reaction, so it's hard to say much about it. For all we know the speaker had just been claiming all Muslims were pure evil and should be wiped from the face of the earth and their lands and homes be given to Israel (I doubt he was saying that, but he could've been, or something along those lines - especially based upon the content of the article you published earlier).
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6956|Global Command

mr.hrundi wrote:

ATG wrote:

This is exactly why I sometimes feel we need mass deportations.
You should have lived in Germany 70 years ago. after reading through these forums for a while, I'm pretty sure you would have liked it there. I can only hope for you that you have blonde hair and blue eyes.
Sometimes was in bold.

I don't advocate doing anything to Muslims other than confinning them to an area where they are not a threat to me or my family.

As usmarine pointed out, the vast majority of Muslims do not blow themselves up; but they approve the tactic by subtle ways, and justify jihad, and the implementation of sharia.

Just not worth the risk or conflict.

I basically feel about the same towards radical christiian fundamentalist.

I catagorically disavow any suggestion of genocide against Muslims.

Notice I capitalized Muslim and not christian?
mr.hrundi
Wurstwassereis
+68|6864|Germany
it doesn't matter if you wrote sometimes and if it was in bold or whatever. the fact alone that someone actually is thinking about deportating a whole group just because of their belief and even talking about it, makes me sick. I am from Germany. every person here is educated to never let something similar happen as it happened 70 years ago. everyone here exactly knows which horrible things were done while the nazi regime lasted. I really hope that america doesn't have to go through a process like germany did to realize they did something wrong. In my opinion, opinions like yours are a danger to the whole world.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6794|Columbus, Ohio

mr.hrundi wrote:

In my opinion, opinions like yours are a danger to the whole world.
He didn't say round them up and throw them in an oven like you guys did.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6956|Global Command

mr.hrundi wrote:

it doesn't matter if you wrote sometimes and if it was in bold or whatever. the fact alone that someone actually is thinking about deportating a whole group just because of their belief and even talking about it, makes me sick. I am from Germany. every person here is educated to never let something similar happen as it happened 70 years ago. everyone here exactly knows which horrible things were done while the nazi regime lasted. I really hope that america doesn't have to go through a process like germany did to realize they did something wrong. In my opinion, opinions like yours are a danger to the whole world.
Ya well, they be good citizens and embrace our cultures and laws and I have no issue.
We all know there are about even odds that this will happen.


For their sake, I hope they figure out a way to over-shout the radicals.
mr.hrundi
Wurstwassereis
+68|6864|Germany

usmarine2007 wrote:

mr.hrundi wrote:

In my opinion, opinions like yours are a danger to the whole world.
He didn't say round them up and throw them in an oven like you guys did.
they didn't say that either (in public). all they said was: lets put all the jews in prison to save the german people. but you know where it ended...
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6956|Global Command

mr.hrundi wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

mr.hrundi wrote:

In my opinion, opinions like yours are a danger to the whole world.
He didn't say round them up and throw them in an oven like you guys did.
they didn't say that either (in public). all they said was: lets put all the jews in prison to save the german people. but you know where it ended...
No offense dude, , but you are factually incorrect.

"In the course of my life I have very often been a prophet, and have usually been ridiculed for it. During the time of my struggle for power it was in the first instance only the Jewish race that received my prophecies with laughter when I said that I would one day take over the leadership of the State, and with it that of the whole nation, and that I would then among other things settle the Jewish problem. Their laughter was uproarious, but I think that for some time now they have been laughing on the other side of their face. Today I will once more be a prophet: if the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the Bolshevizing of the earth, and thus the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe!"

Adolf Hitler - January 30, 1939
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6794|Columbus, Ohio
^^ Beat me to it you bastard.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6956|Global Command

usmarine2007 wrote:

^^ Beat me to it you bastard.
Oh God, the desire of the part of Germans to deny the truth is underdstandable. It was such an ugly truth.
mr.hrundi
Wurstwassereis
+68|6864|Germany
to be honest, i wrote about 15 lines here already when I came to the decision, not to participate in this discussion anymore because I realized that it would be time i could spent in a much better way. nothing will ever convince you, the conservative twins.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6794|Columbus, Ohio

mr.hrundi wrote:

nothing will ever convince you, the conservative twins.
lawl
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6794|Columbus, Ohio
"On Wednesday,Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, urged Islamic nations to retaliate against Israel. Khamenei did not say what sort of response he intended, but he said the Islamic world should make Israel "regret" what it is doing."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070207/ap_ … _holy_site

Guess it doesn't matter where you are in the world............
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7195
What has this got to do with the liberal media?

Damn those pesky liberal media blogs screwing things up with facts and truths!
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6794|Columbus, Ohio

BN wrote:

What has this got to do with the liberal media?

Damn those pesky liberal media blogs screwing things up with facts and truths!
Only one mainstream news channel covered it.
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7195

usmarine2007 wrote:

BN wrote:

What has this got to do with the liberal media?

Damn those pesky liberal media blogs screwing things up with facts and truths!
Only one mainstream news channel covered it.
Then there are plenty of conservative news channels that are not reporting it too

Shame on them!
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7199|PNW

Oh teh noes. Jihad of the tongue. All proper Christians should quiver in their boots.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6988

usmarine2007 wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Some Americans want to go to war over comments made by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, or Hugo Chavez.
Did you watch the video?  Would you support Jews going to the UC Irvine campus and rioting?
Apart from the fact that that has nothing to do with my statement, all I saw was a large group of Muslims leaving the room and a small group causing a disturbance.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6794|Columbus, Ohio

Bubbalo wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Some Americans want to go to war over comments made by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, or Hugo Chavez.
Did you watch the video?  Would you support Jews going to the UC Irvine campus and rioting?
Apart from the fact that that has nothing to do with my statement, all I saw was a large group of Muslims leaving the room and a small group causing a disturbance.
I realize that a group of "moderate" muslims saying "anti-Israel, anti-occupation" and "Allah akbar" while leaving the room is no big deal to you, since you agree with them, but I feel it is a problem.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6832|North Carolina
On the one hand, Daniel Pipes is an extremist in his own right.

On the other hand, the behavior of these people seems to verify many of his assumptions.
gun.KingRat
Member
+12|7117

ATG wrote:

mr.hrundi wrote:

ATG wrote:

This is exactly why I sometimes feel we need mass deportations.
You should have lived in Germany 70 years ago. after reading through these forums for a while, I'm pretty sure you would have liked it there. I can only hope for you that you have blonde hair and blue eyes.
Sometimes was in bold.

I don't advocate doing anything to Muslims other than confinning them to an area where they are not a threat to me or my family.

As usmarine pointed out, the vast majority of Muslims do not blow themselves up; but they approve the tactic by subtle ways, and justify jihad, and the implementation of sharia.

Just not worth the risk or conflict.

I basically feel about the same towards radical christiian fundamentalist.

I catagorically disavow any suggestion of genocide against Muslims.

Notice I capitalized Muslim and not christian?
Yeah, you have to watch out for those Christians. Never know when the Salvation Army or the Red Cross are going to hijack another airplane.

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