ELITE-UK
Scratching my back
+170|6675|SHEFFIELD, ENGLAND
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid … &hl=en

Please take your time and watch all of this hour long video, i have just watched it on tv and its really opened my eyes to the problem we face and to be honest we should act now..while we still have a sodding chance.
joker3327
=IBF2=
+305|6800|Cheshire. UK
I have noticed that people are getting dimmer.... !!

jk...... will watch it later...work will have kittens if I watch it now !!
DoctorFruitloop
Level 13 Wrongdoer
+515|6747|Doncaster, UK
That and it might distract you enough for Mullet to get before you

I'll have a look at it later when I'm somewhere the IT nazis don't block everything.
B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|7042|Cologne, Germany

global dimming ? never heard of it..I am gonna look it up before wasting another hour of my life in front of my PC...
joker3327
=IBF2=
+305|6800|Cheshire. UK

DoctorFruitloop wrote:

That and it might distract you enough for Mullet to get before you

I'll have a look at it later when I'm somewhere the IT nazis don't block everything.
Your only Gay if you take it!!
Chappy556
Member
+14|6901
global warming/dimming = junk science

twenty years ago, we were heading for a new ice age...scientists need to put their efforts towards something useful like curing cancer, not if next winter is going to be a little warmer

its arrogant for humans to think that we can do anything to hurt this earth...we cannot make ozone, we cannot destroy ozone, the levels rise and fall naturally due to natural factors

i hear the greenies start talking and its like what my dog hears, blah blah blah blah eat blah blah blah walk blah blah blah poop
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6967|UK
Chappy your an a fool. lol, you go against PROVEN science.
ELITE-UK
Scratching my back
+170|6675|SHEFFIELD, ENGLAND

Chappy556 wrote:

global warming/dimming = junk science

twenty years ago, we were heading for a new ice age...scientists need to put their efforts towards something useful like curing cancer, not if next winter is going to be a little warmer

its arrogant for humans to think that we can do anything to hurt this earth...we cannot make ozone, we cannot destroy ozone, the levels rise and fall naturally due to natural factors

i hear the greenies start talking and its like what my dog hears, blah blah blah blah eat blah blah blah walk blah blah blah poop
i bet your an american right? americans always seem to be in denyal about global warming!

always denying the fact that this world needs saving, and how can it be arrogant to think we humans hurt the earth....THAT MAKES NO SENSE WHAT SO EVER! its arrogant for people like you blond to the fact of the global problem we face.
Chappy556
Member
+14|6901
yup im an american and not the smartest one but you start producing me PROVEN facts regarding Global Warming and the decline of the environment due to human factors and we can talk

Science hasn't proven a thing about the environment...only that we have one

Last edited by Chappy556 (2007-01-31 08:19:57)

Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6967|UK
Are you really that ignorant. These facts are shown in European newspapers and on tv and are easily accessible on the internet.

Some of you guys really need to get a grip on what you are doing to the world.

Read this thread. http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=31479&p=22 all the "theres no such thing as GW" people get destroyed by the evidence posted over and over. They can provide no evidence to counter it.

Wow.. just wow, your comments are not only ignorant they are naive.

Last edited by Vilham (2007-01-31 08:20:32)

Chappy556
Member
+14|6901
i'm not going to pick through another thread and try and defend anyone but here ya go boss

http://xtronics.com/reference/globalwarming.htm

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8177

http://www.abd.org.uk/green_myths.htm (a uk website)

its junk science only perpituated by pony-tailed "scientists" wanting to keep their jobs ie take away global warming and government takes away grants to study global warming

its like trying to prove that Santa Clause exists or he doesn't

Last edited by Chappy556 (2007-01-31 08:24:30)

Presence
Member
+2|6519

Chappy556 wrote:

global warming/dimming = junk science

twenty years ago, we were heading for a new ice age...scientists need to put their efforts towards something useful like curing cancer, not if next winter is going to be a little warmer

its arrogant for humans to think that we can do anything to hurt this earth...we cannot make ozone, we cannot destroy ozone, the levels rise and fall naturally due to natural factors

i hear the greenies start talking and its like what my dog hears, blah blah blah blah eat blah blah blah walk blah blah blah poop
Yes. CLEARLY none of what we do on this earth has no effect whatsoever.  Dumping toxic waste into oceans, polluting the atmosphere, and leveling rainforests doesn't change a thing.   God shut up you fucking retard.

Oh yeah, FYI, drinking bleach is good for you.  You should try it.

Last edited by Presence (2007-01-31 08:28:54)

DarkObsidian
Member
+6|6837|Arizona, USA
Chappy is correct.
Global warming is not a threat. Sure, temperatures will change and maybe climates, but we can't destroy the Earth. It can only destroy itself.
Oh shut up, I've heard this all before and the scientists ranting and raving "OMG LOL THE OZONE HOLE ON THE NORTH POLE IS GETTING BIGGAR LAWL!".
It changes with time, it get's bigger and smaller. Hell, if we're so worried about the ice caps melting uh... maybe we could... hmm.... drop liquid nitrogen into the ocean?
Put water into space vessels and launch them into space?
Oh noes! We're going to get hotter? OMFG IS IT GUNNA BE LIEK THA DAY AFTR 2MOROW??!?!1/1?!?1/1/1
Shut the fuck up.
Chappy556
Member
+14|6901

Chappy556 wrote:

i'm not going to pick through another thread and try and defend anyone but here ya go boss

http://xtronics.com/reference/globalwarming.htm

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8177

http://www.abd.org.uk/green_myths.htm (a uk website)

its junk science only perpituated by pony-tailed "scientists" wanting to keep their jobs ie take away global warming and government takes away grants to study global warming

its like trying to prove that Santa Clause exists or he doesn't
and i'm naive because i've looked for myself and don't find the facts conclusive?  okay so i'm naive

debate is done using facts, not your opinion and for the record, calling someone a "fucking retard" is not debating, its done when you have nothing better to add

Last edited by Chappy556 (2007-01-31 08:27:48)

Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6967|UK
lol to your first link, written by a "My work with electronic circuits modeled on computers". Nothing in there is actual scientific evidence, he just tries to claim scientists are "wrong" lol.

This whole link discredits the author of the second link. http://www.csicop.org/doubtandabout/bethell/

Third link written by Pro-Motor Ltd. lol yeah because they want car numbers to be reduced don't they? Your as ignorant as the people who took smoking advice of smoking cooperations who claimed smoking didn't damage your health.

Thank you for fortifying my belief that you are indeed ignorant and naive.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6967|UK

DarkObsidian wrote:

Chappy is correct.
Global warming is not a threat. Sure, temperatures will change and maybe climates, but we can't destroy the Earth. It can only destroy itself.
Oh shut up, I've heard this all before and the scientists ranting and raving "OMG LOL THE OZONE HOLE ON THE NORTH POLE IS GETTING BIGGAR LAWL!".
It changes with time, it get's bigger and smaller. Hell, if we're so worried about the ice caps melting uh... maybe we could... hmm.... drop liquid nitrogen into the ocean?
Put water into space vessels and launch them into space?
Oh noes! We're going to get hotter? OMFG IS IT GUNNA BE LIEK THA DAY AFTR 2MOROW??!?!1/1?!?1/1/1
Shut the fuck up.
No one claims it will be like the day after tomorrow, the fact that you use that in your argument shows you haven't ever actually debated this before and only go on what is said by your newspapers.
Chappy556
Member
+14|6901

Vilham wrote:

lol to your first link, written by a "My work with electronic circuits modeled on computers". Nothing in there is actual scientific evidence, he just tries to claim scientists are "wrong" lol.

This whole link discredits the author of the second link. http://www.csicop.org/doubtandabout/bethell/

Third link written by Pro-Motor Ltd. lol yeah because they want car numbers to be reduced don't they? Your as ignorant as the people who took smoking advice of smoking cooperations who claimed smoking didn't damage your health.

Thank you for fortifying my belief that you are indeed ignorant and naive.
if you think all of your "evidence" supporting GW as a true theory isn't made by people with agendas, you, my friend are the naive one

here are some more you can push aside because they don't help your argument

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh … glob14.xml

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh … glob01.xml

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialRepor … 1216b.html

i have more...google is our friend

Last edited by Chappy556 (2007-01-31 08:39:53)

Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6967|UK
lol yeah the agenda of scientists, people who have INCREASED our technology throughout mans history obviously want us to go back to being cave men.. man you really don't think this through.
DarkObsidian
Member
+6|6837|Arizona, USA

Vilham wrote:

DarkObsidian wrote:

Chappy is correct.
Global warming is not a threat. Sure, temperatures will change and maybe climates, but we can't destroy the Earth. It can only destroy itself.
Oh shut up, I've heard this all before and the scientists ranting and raving "OMG LOL THE OZONE HOLE ON THE NORTH POLE IS GETTING BIGGAR LAWL!".
It changes with time, it get's bigger and smaller. Hell, if we're so worried about the ice caps melting uh... maybe we could... hmm.... drop liquid nitrogen into the ocean?
Put water into space vessels and launch them into space?
Oh noes! We're going to get hotter? OMFG IS IT GUNNA BE LIEK THA DAY AFTR 2MOROW??!?!1/1?!?1/1/1
Shut the fuck up.
No one claims it will be like the day after tomorrow, the fact that you use that in your argument shows you haven't ever actually debated this before and only go on what is said by your newspapers.
God damn. Is the world so blind to think that America is 100% mentally incapable?
I don't read the newspaper, and how the fuck did you get that idea?
I think by you looking too deep into my statement, you've revealed that you have a desire for hidden meanings, even if it means that they don't exist. You still find them! Don't cha'? =]
Oh, and your palm says you like hairy women.
Assumptions are always true, right?
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6967|UK
lol. Thanks for that. Made me laugh, you don't even read newspapers, don't tell me you watch fox? lol. If you dont mind ill just ignore all your posts from now on.
DarkObsidian
Member
+6|6837|Arizona, USA

Vilham wrote:

lol. Thanks for that. Made me laugh, you don't even read newspapers, don't tell me you watch fox? lol. If you dont mind ill just ignore all your posts from now on.
Get your foreigner mentality out of here. Right now, or I'll spank you with my e-paddle.
Fox is politically sided, there's absolutely no point is counting anything valid coming from it.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6967|UK
lol. Well done, at least you aren't naive enough to think anything from Fox isn't majorly bias.
Chappy556
Member
+14|6901
there was a mini ice age in the 1700's...i bet all of our factories and SUV's caused that one

the world was pretty warm 2 million years ago...damn ozone screwing dinosaurs

once again, prove to me that global warming actually exists beyond "i know its there, just feel how warm it is in winter" and you'll have me on your side
klassekock
Proud Born Loser
+68|6788|Sweden

Chappy556 wrote:

i'm not going to pick through another thread and try and defend anyone but here ya go boss

http://xtronics.com/reference/globalwarming.htm

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8177

http://www.abd.org.uk/green_myths.htm (a uk website)

its junk science only perpituated by pony-tailed "scientists" wanting to keep their jobs ie take away global warming and government takes away grants to study global warming

its like trying to prove that Santa Clause exists or he doesn't
Santa Claus DO exist in the northern parts of Finland/Rovaniemi. And global warming also exists.
One thing that doesn't exists though is a shred of intelligence in you, you fooooool  !!!!!
DarkObsidian
Member
+6|6837|Arizona, USA

Vilham wrote:

lol. Well done, at least you aren't naive enough to think anything from Fox isn't majorly bias.

http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=12594 wrote:

Global warming is a hoax, invented in 1988, that combines old myths including limits to growth, sustainability, the population growth time bomb, the depletion of resources, pollution, anti-Americanism and anti-corporate sentiment and, of all things, fear of an ice age. Those that espoused and supported the old myths have joined forced into a new group called “Environmentalists.”

Most environmentalists have no technical or scientific credentials whatsoever. What they have are major news outlets ready and willing to publicize their every utterance regardless of whether or not they are backed up by scientific proof. Atmospheric science requires highly technical knowledge and skills, not possessed by the vast majority of the so-called environmentalists, who yet feel qualified to demand that human activity subjugate itself to the whims of their new deity, Mother Nature.

Environmentalists claim that the Earth’s atmosphere is getting hotter. They claim that the polar icecaps and glaciers will melt and sea levels will rise over two hundred feet, flooding most coastal cities. They claim that many areas of the Earth will turn into deserts. They make all these claims but cannot substantiate them with real scientific evidence. Parts of the polar icecap and glaciers are melting but other areas of the polar icecaps and glaciers are thickening. The environmentalists base their “proof” of the existence of global warming on the melting areas but are strangely silent, even militant to the point of violence, if anyone mentions the areas that are thickening, and those thickening areas are many.

In the past, there have been many times when the global mean temperatures were warmer, sometimes much warmer and colder, much colder than they are now. Global mean temperatures are cyclical with the seasons but also with other normal cycles, as they have been for the entire history of the Earth. Scientific data from ice cores, tree rings and other indicators of global mean temperatures prove this. Human activity has never been the cause of these global temperature swings as the “global warming” advocates claim. If human activity was the cause, where were the SUVs, the power plants and industries in our historical past? They did not exist. If human activity was not the cause of these global temperature swings, what was?

The energy output of the Sun is far greater in one second than human activity could produce in a million years. The Earth rotates around the Sun. Its orbit is slightly elliptical. The energy reaching the Earth from the Sun varies slightly as the distance from the Sun to the Earth varies due to its elliptical orbit. The Sun activity increases and decreases with fluctuations in the solar flares emitted by the Sun. Differences in these fluctuation rates cause increases and decreases of solar energy hitting the Earth. This causes fluctuations in the global mean temperature of the Earth’s atmosphere.

In 2004, the energy from massive solar flares bombarded the Earth with solar energy. This solar energy caused heating of the Earth’s surface and atmosphere. Most of the energy of the solar flare eruptions dissipated into space. The amounts of energy ejected were massive, much greater than normal. Had the Earth received a full blast of the solar energy from one of the numerous flare eruptions in 2004, the consequences to life on Earth could have been disastrous. The higher than usual amounts of energy that struck the Earth’s atmosphere did have their effects, however, including some heating of the atmosphere.

Then there is the eruption of volcanoes, such as Mt. St. Helens, ejecting dust and ash into the Earth’s atmosphere. The amount of dust and ash in the atmosphere varies the amount of energy that can cause heating or cooling of the Earth’s atmosphere. Volcanoes also eject the kind of compounds that environmentalists call greenhouse gases. A single eruption the size of the Mt. St. Helens eruption released more of these gases, dust and ash into the atmosphere than all such emissions by human activity since the beginning of recorded human history. And there are numerous volcanic eruptions yearly.

The oceans are also a major source of greenhouse gases, as are trees. Trees and other vegetation take in carbon dioxide and give off other gases such as methane, a major greenhouse gas, and a host of other compounds, many of which are also greenhouse gases. Decaying vegetation also gives off methane gas. Studies of smog in the Los Angeles basin indicate that over 90% of the smog is generated by the vegetation in the area. To aid in perpetuating the hoax, however, environmentalists, aided by major news media outlets, censored and suppressed this study.

Studies have shown that greenhouse gases produced by human activity accounts for around 1 percent of the gases in the atmosphere. The total elimination of human generated greenhouse gases would have a negligible effect on Earth’s global mean atmospheric temperatures. The elimination of all U.S. gasoline powered vehicles would reduce worldwide “greenhouse” emissions by less than 0.2%.” What would be the effect on global mean temperatures? None. Doubling of manmade greenhouse emissions above current levels would increase the global mean temperature by one degree Centigrade, which is within the normal range of temperature swings.

It is the fluctuations of the Earth’s orbit around the sun, volcanic eruptions, the emission of gases by oceans and trees, all natural occurrences, that cause rises and declines in global mean temperatures, i.e., “global warming” and “global cooling,” not human activity.

Satellite data taken over the past 25 years indicate no surface or atmospheric warming. If anything there has been a very slight cooling, on the order of 0.01 degree Centigrade.

Recently, astronomers have noticed a thinning of the polar icecaps on Mars.

Is this “global warming, Mars style” and do Martian SUVs, power plants, and industries cause it? Hardly, but the “environmentalists” think so. Some even blame it on us here on Earth.

Global warming IS a hoax. Those claiming that “global warming” is real have an agenda other than saving the planet from human activity.
Chew that for a bit and rethink your theories.

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