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1 your wrong its so far left people dont watch the networks anymore.Greenie_Beazinie wrote:
Too far right. But everything is too far right for me because I am Socialist.
2 We knew you were a socialist, the dying form of goverment.
When I want the truth, I watch every news network and find the average lol.....
But, on a serious note, I think it's a shame how far partisan politics and ignorance has come in America. I think that our founding fathers would be ashamed to see how much the 1st Amendment is contorted for profit and persoanl gain. Yes, it's good to have different views in a country, but there is no excuse for the ignorance in this country. Seriously, in my history class last year, a person raised their hand and asked the teacher who Kerry Edwards was becuase they saw signs about him. I absolutly lost it. You can't make something that stupid up.
But, on a serious note, I think it's a shame how far partisan politics and ignorance has come in America. I think that our founding fathers would be ashamed to see how much the 1st Amendment is contorted for profit and persoanl gain. Yes, it's good to have different views in a country, but there is no excuse for the ignorance in this country. Seriously, in my history class last year, a person raised their hand and asked the teacher who Kerry Edwards was becuase they saw signs about him. I absolutly lost it. You can't make something that stupid up.
Last edited by Dynasty(KIP) (2006-02-20 10:14:26)
Well said.tF-voodoochild wrote:
Clearly you don't watch Fox News much...
The media is biased on both sides pretty much equally imo. For every really far left-wing news source there is another that is on the opposite side of the spectrum. In order to get any kind of unbiased news from national sources you must watch the same story covered by two opposite news teams and compare the 'facts.'
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Fox news is 1 station, so thats a 70 : 1 pro liberal ratio for the average viewing household.Spark wrote:
Well said.tF-voodoochild wrote:
Clearly you don't watch Fox News much...
The media is biased on both sides pretty much equally imo. For every really far left-wing news source there is another that is on the opposite side of the spectrum. In order to get any kind of unbiased news from national sources you must watch the same story covered by two opposite news teams and compare the 'facts.'
where do they find these guys ?
Yeah I have to say the media is biased.....wage war and get slandered and libeled all day long....Lie to the american public and congress and you still get praised as a "Great President." Gotta love it.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Last I checked there wasn't a govt. on this god-forsaken planet that didn't feed it's own people bullshit on a stick, and not a people in the world that wouldn't bend their own mother over a stump to get ahead. If i want the truth on anything i'll wait 50 years until nobody gives a shit anymore. Until then I'll be content to sit back and enjoy the entertaining news graphics, the cool logos, and cheesy slogans—heaven knows without which i would never be amused enough to gag my way through this war on terror....
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Oh, and PS: The way i figure? the whole media in general is probably so far off base that any slight deviation left or right is still way off target. I guess in the end it just depends on your personal appreciation for either O'Reilley's verbal masturbation or whatever happens to be the CNN equivalent right now...
well all media is biased.none take the time to get the full strory or look at both sides.its just that sensationalism sells.aussie media is much the same as the us(murdoch is very powerful in his homeland as well)and if anything fleet street is even worse.i dont count the national inquirer and the like as media its just toilet paper with words printed on it.just ask penn and teller:D
The only thing I will say about media bias: I was never so scared about what was going on in Iraq as when I came home from Iraq and saw what they were actually putting on the 'news.'
I worked in a Battalion Headquarters. We had our satallite radio on the Division net, and I could hear everything that got reported to the Division, and hear the twice daily briefing of the Division Commander buy his brigade commanders. That means that when I was there in 2003, I knew everything that was going on from just north of Baghdad to the border of Turkey.
I dare say I heard more about what was actually going on in Iraq than anyone on this forum that hasn't spent time in Iraq. But do I expect you to listen? No.
A lot of people keep telling you to watch these videos with 'open minds.' What they are ignoring is that their minds are closed with much less reason. Farenheit 9/11 presented provable fabrications which the left view as basic fact. And a lot of what was actually true was presented out of context, or in as unfavorable a light as was possible. It all comes down to the magic of editing.
You say my mind is closed? I was there, and I saw with my own eyes what has been going on in Iraq. You want to try to tell me that a movie you saw is more real than my own experiences?
I KNOW the media has a liberal bias. Even FOX has a liberal bias, just not as bad as the others. CBS has been caught this week 'cooking' a poll until it showed the numbers they want.
Yes, I voted for Bush. No, I am not a Bush 'fanatic.' There are many areas where I am unhappy about what he is doing. However, he was strong on the most important issue, which is National Defense.
I worked in a Battalion Headquarters. We had our satallite radio on the Division net, and I could hear everything that got reported to the Division, and hear the twice daily briefing of the Division Commander buy his brigade commanders. That means that when I was there in 2003, I knew everything that was going on from just north of Baghdad to the border of Turkey.
I dare say I heard more about what was actually going on in Iraq than anyone on this forum that hasn't spent time in Iraq. But do I expect you to listen? No.
A lot of people keep telling you to watch these videos with 'open minds.' What they are ignoring is that their minds are closed with much less reason. Farenheit 9/11 presented provable fabrications which the left view as basic fact. And a lot of what was actually true was presented out of context, or in as unfavorable a light as was possible. It all comes down to the magic of editing.
You say my mind is closed? I was there, and I saw with my own eyes what has been going on in Iraq. You want to try to tell me that a movie you saw is more real than my own experiences?
I KNOW the media has a liberal bias. Even FOX has a liberal bias, just not as bad as the others. CBS has been caught this week 'cooking' a poll until it showed the numbers they want.
Yes, I voted for Bush. No, I am not a Bush 'fanatic.' There are many areas where I am unhappy about what he is doing. However, he was strong on the most important issue, which is National Defense.
the thing that makes me pause at this issue is.
there are sooooooo many right wing talk shows out there....and I mean a ton and they all are thriving.
there is 1 struggling, barely listened to, left wing show out there (Air America) that doesn't seem to be drawing the crouds. Why is this?.......Could it be the message from the left is.....they have no freakin' idea how they can solve any of our problems AND stay true to their agenda? So all they have left in their arsonal is desperate attacks at anything and everything the Republicans try to do. Not offer solutions of their own mind you, just trash everyone elses ideas.
there are sooooooo many right wing talk shows out there....and I mean a ton and they all are thriving.
there is 1 struggling, barely listened to, left wing show out there (Air America) that doesn't seem to be drawing the crouds. Why is this?.......Could it be the message from the left is.....they have no freakin' idea how they can solve any of our problems AND stay true to their agenda? So all they have left in their arsonal is desperate attacks at anything and everything the Republicans try to do. Not offer solutions of their own mind you, just trash everyone elses ideas.
If my options are limited to the piss poor suggestions from the right and the lack of incentive from the left,
I can't help but wonder which is worse, an over-abundance of bad ideas or a lack of suggestions alltogether.
(and you're correct sir, I put about as much stock in other peoples' "first-hand experience as I do in the media's 2nd hand information)
I can't help but wonder which is worse, an over-abundance of bad ideas or a lack of suggestions alltogether.
(and you're correct sir, I put about as much stock in other peoples' "first-hand experience as I do in the media's 2nd hand information)
easily the better option is the one that offers "bad ideas", for a few reasonsduka wrote:
If my options are limited to the piss poor suggestions from the right and the lack of incentive from the left,
I can't help but wonder which is worse, an over-abundance of bad ideas or a lack of suggestions alltogether.
(and you're correct sir, I put about as much stock in other peoples' "first-hand experience as I do in the media's 2nd hand information)
first.....you have no way of knowing a good idea form a bad unless it is put into motion and an out come is derived. so if it is a good idea great!!.....if not well we have learned as much and that direction can be eliminated from the list of options.....either way it can be considered progress.
secondly......standing around criticizing everone elses efforts has never accomplished much....... I.E. the LEFT
enough said!!......you are the man!!!!!!............THANK YOU!!! <absolutely NOT sarcasm in anyway>imortal wrote:
The only thing I will say about media bias: I was never so scared about what was going on in Iraq as when I came home from Iraq and saw what they were actually putting on the 'news.'
I worked in a Battalion Headquarters. We had our satallite radio on the Division net, and I could hear everything that got reported to the Division, and hear the twice daily briefing of the Division Commander buy his brigade commanders. That means that when I was there in 2003, I knew everything that was going on from just north of Baghdad to the border of Turkey.
I dare say I heard more about what was actually going on in Iraq than anyone on this forum that hasn't spent time in Iraq. But do I expect you to listen? No.
A lot of people keep telling you to watch these videos with 'open minds.' What they are ignoring is that their minds are closed with much less reason. Farenheit 9/11 presented provable fabrications which the left view as basic fact. And a lot of what was actually true was presented out of context, or in as unfavorable a light as was possible. It all comes down to the magic of editing.
You say my mind is closed? I was there, and I saw with my own eyes what has been going on in Iraq. You want to try to tell me that a movie you saw is more real than my own experiences?
I KNOW the media has a liberal bias. Even FOX has a liberal bias, just not as bad as the others. CBS has been caught this week 'cooking' a poll until it showed the numbers they want.
Yes, I voted for Bush. No, I am not a Bush 'fanatic.' There are many areas where I am unhappy about what he is doing. However, he was strong on the most important issue, which is National Defense.
I can't wait to see someone argue with this point.....Hell I love to debate and I wouldn't touch it.....thanks for your service as well....
what else can I say, I simply disagree. trial and error may work when you're building a car, but when applied to world politics I doubt our leaders can be afforded the same luxury. one step forward and two steps back is no more progress no than standing around twiddling your thumbs is. i really doubt we'll come to any kind of satisfactory agreement on these issues since our opinions and world view stem from a host of opposite assumptions about the situations we find ourselves in.
There are way more left wing shows than right its just that no one watches them..everlowing wrote:
the thing that makes me pause at this issue is.
there are sooooooo many right wing talk shows out there....and I mean a ton and they all are thriving.
there is 1 struggling, barely listened to, left wing show out there (Air America) that doesn't seem to be drawing the crouds. Why is this?.......Could it be the message from the left is.....they have no freakin' idea how they can solve any of our problems AND stay true to their agenda? So all they have left in their arsonal is desperate attacks at anything and everything the Republicans try to do. Not offer solutions of their own mind you, just trash everyone elses ideas.
funny pic lol
I will agree with that except for 1 point.....no matter what the issue or the task, politics, economy, building a car, whatever, noone has a crystal ball to conclude what an ideas action will produce. Nobody forsaw the Insurgent uprising in IRAQ, ohhhhhh everyone can now spout off all they want, you have the luxury of hind sight. However, if we didn't do something, the outcome today, COULD have easily been the use of global WMDs, and more terrorist attacks on our homeland. Then the left, MARK MY WORDS, would be screaming, BUSH DIDN'T DO ANYTHING, HE LET THIS HAPPEN, HE IS A FAILURE, HIS POLICIES ARE A FAILURE. HE KILLED US ALL!!!Sometimes preemptive measures are called for, unfortunately, for President Bush, we will never have the luxury of knowing if his actions were correct because this isn't Star Trek and their is no "alternate future" to compare with lol...All I know is there hasn't been another terrorist attack on American soil and there is a reason for that......and it ain't because the LEFT "stood around twiddling their thumbs"duka wrote:
what else can I say, I simply disagree. trial and error may work when you're building a car, but when applied to world politics I doubt our leaders can be afforded the same luxury. one step forward and two steps back is no more progress no than standing around twiddling your thumbs is. i really doubt we'll come to any kind of satisfactory agreement on these issues since our opinions and world view stem from a host of opposite assumptions about the situations we find ourselves in.
That was my thought when I posted my previous comment.
Other than Air America, please name another national Left radio talk show. I like to hear all purspectives on issues but can never find it on talk radio.Horseman 77 wrote:
There are way more left wing shows than right its just that no one watches them..everlowing wrote:
the thing that makes me pause at this issue is.
there are sooooooo many right wing talk shows out there....and I mean a ton and they all are thriving.
there is 1 struggling, barely listened to, left wing show out there (Air America) that doesn't seem to be drawing the crouds. Why is this?.......Could it be the message from the left is.....they have no freakin' idea how they can solve any of our problems AND stay true to their agenda? So all they have left in their arsonal is desperate attacks at anything and everything the Republicans try to do. Not offer solutions of their own mind you, just trash everyone elses ideas.
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on a more personal note, i've grown to appreciate NPR (National Public Radio) the very fact that they give both sides of the story more than a 20 second window to make their point and respond makes them a favorite in my book. Certainly not without their faults i've found their programs to be a refreshing brake. I suppose your perception of whether or not they lean left or right would depend on what your viewpoint is to begin with, whether or not you agree/disagree.
I never heard of it, I will look it up on the net. thanksduka wrote:
on a more personal note, i've grown to appreciate NPR (National Public Radio) the very fact that they give both sides of the story more than a 20 second window to make their point and respond makes them a favorite in my book. Certainly not without their faults i've found their programs to be a refreshing brake. I suppose your perception of whether or not they lean left or right would depend on what your viewpoint is to begin with, whether or not you agree/disagree.
I can't say if I am left or right........I go by moral judgement or how an issue affects me and my family........It just so happens my moral compass points more to the right.....I just never decide issues based on poitical party allegiance
npr.com lets you listen to most, if not all of their daily programs via windows media player.
thanks, I will check them out.duka wrote:
npr.com lets you listen to most, if not all of their daily programs via windows media player.
any thoughts on my last post that you and I were discussing??......
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