Stingray24
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By Aaron Klein
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

Monroe Freedman
TEL AVIV – Former President Jimmy Carter once complained there were "too many Jews" on the government's Holocaust Memorial Council, Monroe Freedman, the council's former executive director, told WND in an exclusive interview.

Freedman, who served on the council during Carter's term as president, also revealed a noted Holocaust scholar who was a Presbyterian Christian was rejected from the council's board by Carter's office because the scholar's name "sounded too Jewish."

Freedman, now a professor of law at Hofstra University, was picked by the council's chairman, author Elie Weisel, to serve as executive director in 1980. The council, created by the Carter White House, went on to establish the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C.  Freedman says he was tasked with creating a board for the council and with making recommendations to the White House on how best to memorialize the Holocaust.  He told WND he sent a memo to Carter's office containing recommendations for council board members.  He said his memo was returned with a note on the upper right hand corner that stated, "Too many Jews."  The note, Freedman said, was written in Carter's handwriting and was initialed by Carter.

Freedman said at the time the board he constructed was about 80-perent Jewish, including many Holocaust survivors.  He said at the behest of the White House he composed another board consisting of more non-Jews. But he said he was "stunned" when Carter's office objected to a non-Jew whose name sounded Jewish.
Freedman said he could not provide the historians name to WND because he did not have the man's permission.  "I got a phone call from our liaison at the White House saying this particular historian whose name sounded Jewish would not do. The liaison said he would not even take the time to present Carter with the possibility of including the historian on the board because he knew Carter would think the name sounded too Jewish. I explained the historian is Presbyterian, but the liaison said it wouldn't matter to Carter." 
Freedman said he was "outraged by this absurdity."

"If I was memorializing Martin Luther King, I would expect a significant number of board members to be African American. If I was memorializing Native American figures I'd expect a lot of Native Americans to be on the board.  "I do not for a moment consider it inappropriate to build a Holocaust council with a significant majority of the board being Jewish," Freedman stated.  Freedman describes himself as "self-proclaimed liberal." He said he decided to speak out after the release of Carter's latest book, "Palestine: Peace not Apartheid," which some have accused of being biased against Israel.  This would not be the first time Carter's messages on right hand corners of letters generated a Holocaust-related scandal.  Last week, in an interview with the Tovia Singer Show on Israel National Radio, a former U.S. Justice Department official said he received a letter advocating "special consideration" for a confessed Nazi SS officer accused of murdering Jews in the Mauthausen death camp in Austria.

Neal Sher, who served in the Justice Department's Office of Special Investigation, said that in 1987 he received a note from Carter petitioning for re-entry into the U.S. for Martin Bartesch, who had been deported by Sher's office to Austria after it was established he served as an SS officer.  Sher said his office had "extraordinary evidence" Bartesch shot Jews.

Bartesch originally immigrated to the U.S. and lived in Chicago. He later admitted to Sher's office and the court he had voluntarily joined the SS as a teenager and served in its Death's Head Division at the Mauthausen concentration camp where many thousands of prisoners were gassed, shot, starved and worked to death. Bartesch also confessed to having concealed his SS service at concentration camp from U.S. immigration officials.  Sher said the Justice Department obtained a journal kept by the SS and captured by the U.S. Armed Forces listing Bartesch as having shot to death Max Oschorn, a French Jewish prisoner.

Bartesch's daughters, who still lived in the U.S., attempted in 1987 to appeal to politicians to allow the former Nazi officer to enter the country. They wrote a note in which they claimed it was "un-American" to persecute a man for crimes committed when he was only 17 and 18 years old.  Sher said he was shocked when he received the daughter's letter replete with a handwritten note from Carter on the upper right corner stating the former president wanted "special consideration" for the Bartesch family for humanitarian reasons. 
The note, containing Carter's signature, was obtained this week by the NY Sun.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7102|Canberra, AUS
I find it interesting that the wiki page on the US. Holocaust Memorial Council makes no mention of Monroe Freedman (if he was that important it should've) or Jimmy Carter.

In fact, the only reference I can find of Monroe Freedman relating to the Council comes from an ANTI-ARMENIAN-GENOCIDE page!

More importantly, a google search containing the words 'monroe freedman' and 'carter' turns up nothing.

Get a different source please.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6872|The Land of Scott Walker
Sorry the source didn't pass the google test. Feel free to discredit the reporter if you think he's wrong.

Edit: This is breaking news today, other news outlets will pick this up . . . or will they.

Last edited by Stingray24 (2007-01-26 07:21:26)

unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7199|PNW

Spark wrote:

I find it interesting that the wiki page on the US. Holocaust Memorial Council makes no mention of Monroe Freedman (if he was that important it should've) or Jimmy Carter.

In fact, the only reference I can find of Monroe Freedman relating to the Council comes from an ANTI-ARMENIAN-GENOCIDE page!

More importantly, a google search containing the words 'monroe freedman' and 'carter' turns up nothing.

Get a different source please.
Because Wikipedia is the ultimate source of information!

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-01-27 06:52:44)

ATG
Banned
+5,233|6956|Global Command
Carter is a wretched man.

I wish he would crawl back to his peanut farm and live his remaining days eating hog slop.
Blehm98
conservative hatemonger
+150|6890|meh-land

ATG wrote:

Carter is a wretched man.

I wish he would crawl back to his peanut farm and live his remaining days eating hog slop.
he's a backstabbing lying scumbag, yet the media still loves him...
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6821|The Gem Saloon
the only good thing that man did was to allow the elite group known commonly as delta force to establish themselves......other than that, hes an asshole.....screw JC!!!!
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7048|London, England

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Spark wrote:

I find it interesting that the wiki page on the US. Holocaust Memorial Council makes no mention of Monroe Freedman (if he was that important it should've) or Jimmy Carter.

In fact, the only reference I can find of Monroe Freedman relating to the Council comes from an ANTI-ARMENIAN-GENOCIDE page!

More importantly, a google search containing the words 'monroe freedman' and 'carter' turns up nothing.

Get a different source please.
Because Wikipedia is the ultimate source of information!
Wikipedia has something called citations. After statements there is usually a number. If you click on it, it takes you to the bottom of the page which shows all the websites used to get information for said topic. It isn't just 100% ramble some guy wrote for fun. They use sources. If they don't, it's mentioned that there are few sources in the article and whatnot. Smart people use Wikipedia as a source for......sources.
JahManRed
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+646|7055|IRELAND

ATG wrote:

Carter is a wretched man.

I wish he would crawl back to his peanut farm and live his remaining days eating hog slop.
All presidents past and future get rubbished constantly on these forums. Will Bush get labeled the same ONLY after he is out?
jonsimon
Member
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Jimmy Carter is an honest, hard-working man who could never control party politics, rendering the presidency useless during his tenure. What do you have against him? Any man that made all the furniture in his house himself can't be all bad.

Edit:
Carter served in the navy on submarines and left only after the death of his father.
He was a successful businessman running and expanding his family's farm.
He was a devout christian, praying multiple times a day.
He served on various boards in local politics.
He became a Georgia senator after challenging fraudulent election results in favor of his opponent.
He ran for governor of Georgia and influenced the victory of his fellow democrat over the republican candidate, despite losing the primaries himself.
He successfully ran for Govenor a second time and became the first Deep South state politician to publicly denounce segregation.
He streamlined 300 georgia angencies into 30.

Wiki wrote:

He also pushed reforms through the legislature, providing equal state aid to schools in the wealthy and poor areas of Georgia, set up community centers for mentally handicapped children, and increased educational programs for convicts. Carter took pride in a program he introduced for the appointment of judges and state government officials. Under this program, all such appointments were based on merit, rather than political influence.
He successfully predicted and warned of GeorgeMcGovern's loss in the run for democratic presidential nomination.

Obviously a wretched horrible lying man.

Last edited by jonsimon (2007-01-27 11:01:06)

sergeriver
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Jimmy Carter is one humanitarian person, who has been involved in human rights issues, charity and conflict solutions.  You don't win the Nobel Prize of Peace for being anti-Semite.

Last edited by sergeriver (2007-01-27 11:55:34)

ATG
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sergeriver wrote:

Jimmy Carter is one humanitarian person, who has been involved in human rights issues, charity and conflict solutions.  You don't win the Nobel Prize of Peace for being anti-Semite.
Yes you do.

Ask him.
KEN-JENNINGS
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WorldNetDaily.com is a horrible source for news.

That being said, complaining about Jews seems to run in politicians blood.

Nixon made many documented remarks slandering Jews, yet had Henry Kissinger as Secretary of State.

So I guess the point of your article is to say that Jimmy Carter hates Jews?
Stingray24
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I simply posted the article.  Nowhere did I vouch for the source and I encouraged everyone here to discredit the sources.  So far I've seen nothing to prove the story's false, though I hope it is.  He was a useless president as jonsimon has pointed out, but he seems to be a humanitarian.  Perhaps Jews are the exception.
Turquoise
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Worldnetdaily is a waste of bandwidth, and while Carter wasn't much of a president, he is quite a philanthropist.
Doctor Strangelove
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Wow Jimmy Carter was president 27 years ago and was no where near as bad as people said he was. And after his presidency he became some one who is just all around a good person and people still talk bad about him.
Bubbalo
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Stingray24 wrote:

"If I was memorializing Martin Luther King, I would expect a significant number of board members to be African American. If I was memorializing Native American figures I'd expect a lot of Native Americans to be on the board.
Dumbest logic EVAR.  This only perpetuates the myth that Jews were the only ones killed.  Jew != holocaust survivor, holocaust survivor != Jew.
ATG
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Bubbalo wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

"If I was memorializing Martin Luther King, I would expect a significant number of board members to be African American. If I was memorializing Native American figures I'd expect a lot of Native Americans to be on the board.
Dumbest logic EVAR.  This only perpetuates the myth that Jews were the only ones killed.  Jew != holocaust survivor, holocaust survivor != Jew.
No Bubs, as usual, you use the dumbest logic evar!



Don't you hate it when something dumb you type gets quoted before you can edit it?  Always here to serve you Lizard.
Bubbalo
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How so?
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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Turquoise wrote:

Worldnetdaily is a waste of bandwidth, and while Carter wasn't much of a president, he is quite a philanthropist.
As a moderate I can agree with the waste of bandwidth. Chuck Norris writes there as well.

"Chuck Norris doesn't read books. He stares them down until he gets the information he wants."
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Stingray24
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Bubbalo wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

"If I was memorializing Martin Luther King, I would expect a significant number of board members to be African American. If I was memorializing Native American figures I'd expect a lot of Native Americans to be on the board.
Dumbest logic EVAR.  This only perpetuates the myth that Jews were the only ones killed.  Jew != holocaust survivor, holocaust survivor != Jew.
I know it was not your intent, Bubbalo, but please quote the article instead of me.  I did not say that, just posted it for discussion.  I have to disagree that it perpetuates any myth.  The majority of those killed in the holocaust were Jews, though other groups were also targeted in smaller numbers.  The other groups who suffered should be represented also if they wish to be a part of the organization. 

The article was posted without comment because I had not read worldnetdaily previous to the story breaking. I was hoping someone would provide some links to disprove the story about Carter.
chittydog
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What's so bad about Carter? Everyone knows he was a lame duck in office, but that doesn't make you a bad person. As far as I know, he's spent his time since then running around being a nice guy. Someone mentioned his Nobel, but he's also done a lot of work with Habitat for Humanity and the Peace Corps. The Carter Center alone does so much that it should almost be enough to get him cool-guy status. It'll be disappointing if someone can confirm that he is, or was, and Anti-Semite, but what else makes some of you dislike him so much?
Stingray24
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Again, I'm hoping there's a link disproving this, but I have yet to find one.
arson
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Bubbalo wrote:

Dumbest logic EVAR.  This only perpetuates the myth that Jews were the only ones killed.  Jew != holocaust survivor, holocaust survivor != Jew.
Dumbest attempt at derailment  EVAR. This debate isn't about any myths associated with the Holocaust...go start your own.

  Back on topic...

Stingray24 wrote:

"If I was memorializing Martin Luther King, I would expect a significant number of board members to be African American. If I was memorializing Native American figures I'd expect a lot of Native Americans to be on the board.
I believe that any logical person would concur with this statement.
mKmalfunction
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It's funny that the guy tries to make Carter out to be an anti-Semite after Carter writes a book that's critical of Israel.

If this is all true, why didn't he say something years ago?

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