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Islamophobia: The New Anti-Semitism?

Yes53%53% - 67
No46%46% - 59
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gun.KingRat
Member
+12|6893

Kmarion wrote:

gun.KingRat wrote:

"We shall fight on the beaches. We shall fight on the landing grounds. We shall fight in the fields, and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills. We shall never surrender!" - Winston Churchill

The muslims learned from their Nazi allies defeat. The free world cannot be conquered by outside forces. This is why muslims today worm their way into civilizations and then destroy them from within. Islam teaches that it is only wrong to lie to, or steal from , another muslim. Everyone else is fair game. This is why no muslim can be trusted to do what he says, and why they should all be expelled from free nations while there is still time.
Have you read the Koran in it's entirety? There are plenty of translated online versions. What you are referring to is a perverse interpretation. Most Muslims do not consider everyone else "Fair Game".
Yes, I have read the Qur`an.

"The Qur’an:Sura (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can “compel” a Muslim to tell a lie.

Sura (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to “guard themselves.”

Sura (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must “hide his faith” among those who are not believers.

Sura (2:225) - “Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts”

Sura (66:2) - “Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths”

Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be “compelled” to deceive others for a greater purpose.

Muslims are allowed to lie to unbelievers in order to defeat them.  The two forms are:

Taqiyya - Saying something that isn’t true.

Kitman - Lying by omission.  An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32 (that if anyone kills “it shall be as if he had killed all mankind”) while neglecting to mention that the rest of the verse (and the next) mandate murder in undefined cases of “corruption” and “mischief.”

Though not called Taqiyya by name, Muhammad clearly used deception when he signed a 10-year treaty with the Meccans that allowed him access to their city while he secretly prepared his own forces for a takeover.  The unsuspecting residents were conquered in easy fashion after he broke the treaty two years later, and many leaders of the city who had trusted him at his word were executed.  (See Sura (9:3) - (“…Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters…”)

Another example is when Muhammad tricked the leader of an opposing tribe with whom he was not at war to leave his town on the pretext of meeting with him at Medina.  Usayr ibn Zarim traveled with thirty men who were unarmed because of Muhammad’s guarantee of safety.  They were easily massacred by the prophet’s Muslim assassins.

The 9/11 hijackers practiced deception by going into bars and drinking alcohol, thus throwing off potential suspicion that they were fundamentalists plotting jihad.  This effort worked so well, in fact, that even weeks after 9/11 John Walsh, the host of a popular American television show, said that their bar trips were evidence of ‘hypocrisy.’

The near absence of Qur’anic verse and reliable Hadith that encourage truthfulness is somewhat surprising, given that many Muslims are convinced that their religion teaches honesty."
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6764

lowing wrote:

Until this forum or forums like this and the discussions in them, you never were taught or thought or raised to think that America was a terrorist state AND the bombing of Japan in WW2 was an act of terrorism. ONLY, now, for the sake of trying to prove America is evil are you spewing such BULLSHIT.
Wow, you know me and my background so well.  Please, can you use your crystal ball to tell me what the winning lottery numbers are?  Or are you just being a dipshit pretending to know stuff you don't.

Besides which, I don't claim America is a terrorist state.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6854|USA

Bubbalo wrote:

lowing wrote:

Until this forum or forums like this and the discussions in them, you never were taught or thought or raised to think that America was a terrorist state AND the bombing of Japan in WW2 was an act of terrorism. ONLY, now, for the sake of trying to prove America is evil are you spewing such BULLSHIT.
Wow, you know me and my background so well.  Please, can you use your crystal ball to tell me what the winning lottery numbers are?  Or are you just being a dipshit pretending to know stuff you don't.

Besides which, I don't claim America is a terrorist state.
Oh well then by all means tell me I am wrong. Tell me you were raised/ taught that America is a terror state, that the bombing of Japan was in fact a terrorist attack. Tell me you were taught in school that American action in the WW2 was crimes against humanity. If you can Truthfully, make such claims say so, and stop with the insults.

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