Poll

Who should decide the abortion issue?

Supreme court39%39% - 27
Voters in each state60%60% - 41
Total: 68
Spark
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Then when do you define it as as a baby? At conception? But there are no guarantees it will survive anyway, and the only thing differing it from a fertilized fish or rat egg is too small to quantify.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
topal63
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Stingray24 wrote:

*sigh* Perhaps I should break down and have a mod change this thread to the "Official Abortion Debate Thread".
You're a big boy right? Sure you are - all grow-ed-up & stuff. Honestly you realize you can't limit a debate to your parameters - not on the Internet. And all threads can take on a life of their own - depending on the participants in the thread.

And by the way a lot of people - think NO POLITICAL ACTION (option 3) is an alternative to your 2-ONLY choices presented.

Spark wrote:

Then when do you define it as as a baby? At conception? But there are no guarantees it will survive anyway, and the only thing differing it from a fertilized fish or rat egg is too small to quantify.
Good point...

Also,
You can freeze eggs and sperm, for years, then place a fertilized egg into a woman. Is that all a woman is to that guy? A vessel for a "fetus?" It is nonsense this "defending a fetus" idea. Life is a potential for meaning; but a born into this world; a nurtured life; learn-ed; an experienced REALIZED; someone OUT of WOMB; a life WANTED; is of far more value than mere potential. This "vessel" called woman is far more important than a fertilized egg or a fetus that cannot survive unassisted outside the womb. It is entirely based upon a religious belief - founded in mythology. It is a belief system that is EASY to disassemble.

Defend the "woman" she is not a vessel. If she is with child and wants that child defend the "woman." Those who believe in micro-intuitive god place a transcendent miracle in the womb at the moment DAD came. Those same beliefs extend to a 13 y.o. boy masturbating, because Satin has urged him on - to "spill his seed upon the ground." That same belief-system can extend to the abortion-pill (something that can terminate a conception before it is anything other than a few cells).

The belief that life is worth defending is noble and human. But pro-life (as part of a belief-system) is choosing a "potential" over a "realized potential/a person"; a whole-life. If a girl ends up pregnant and not wanting a child - she most certainly should not be forced to have that child.

Last edited by topal63 (2007-01-23 09:02:59)

aardfrith
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Here in the UK, there is national body set up to decide whether particular medicines or treatments are effective and safe (and value for money).  If there were a question about a particular surgical procedure, such as abortion, I believe they would have to make the call.

Isn't there a similar system in the US?  If so, why the need for debate?

EDIT: Is the next idea to allow voters in each state to decide whether other surgical procedures, such as amputations, cancer treatments, fixing broken bones, etc. should be allowed?

Last edited by aardfrith (2007-01-23 09:20:30)

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