BF2S Forums Bush Drives A Stake Into Border Patrol Agents Hearts.

Can't you Americans grow dope? Christ, we don't have to fly it in from New Zealand......

.:XDR:.PureFodder wrote:

If it's true that these guys shot someone in the ass while he was attempting to escape and then failed to report the incident they yes, off to jail for them. 10 years seems fairly steep though.

It all depends. the question is: did the Mexican have a gun or weapon, and did he fire or use it. He was not apprehended on the scene and a gun was not found, but an officer was wounded ergo he was shot or injured. Assuming he did not shoot or injure himself, we can safely take it for granted he was wounded by the Mexican. Case of self defense if you ask me, even when the Mexican was running away after he had turned towards the second officer and after he had shot the first one.

This article seems intresting:

http://www.nbpc.net/ramos_compean/frontpagemag.htm.

On February 17, 2005, Ramos and Compean were patrolling the border town of Fabens, Texas, when a Mexican illegal alien and drug smuggler, attempted to secret nearly 800 pounds of marijuana into the United States in his van. Agent Compean chased Osbaldo Aldrete-Davila by vehicle and on foot, ordering him to stop. Compean says Aldrete-Davila ignored him, pushed him down, and assaulted him, whereupon the agent called for backup, drawing seven additional units, including Ramos. When he arrived on the scene, he heard gunfire, saw Compean bleeding on the ground, and the fugitive – still refusing to stop as commanded – stealing furtive glances over his shoulder while holding something shiny he believed to be a handgun. Both state they felt threatened, and both fired rounds in the alien’s direction, Ramos striking him in the buttocks. The alien got away, but the two men had jeopardized their own well-being to keep his noxious contraband off our streets.

Returning to Mexico, Aldrete-Davila related his misfortunes to his mother, who contacted the mother-in-law of Border Patrol agent Rene Sanchez. Sanchez in turn tipped off a member of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, who went to Mexico to offer immunity if Osbaldo would act as a state’s witness against Ramos and Compean: the feds wanted to prosecute the agents shooting the alien narcotics supplier.

To sweeten the immunity deal, the feds paid for Osbaldo Aldrete-Davila’s medical treatment of his ailing backside – a taxpayer-funded recuperation at William Beaumont Army Medical Center in El Paso, Texas. He showed his gratitude by breaking his immunity agreement in October 2005, when officers say he attempted to smuggle 1,000 pounds of marijuana into America. The prosecution further extended its immunity to this felony and sealed the indictment from jurors. Aldrete-Davila repaid this new shower of grace by suing the federal government for $5 million, alleging the shooting violated his civil rights. However, he agreed to help in their criminal prosecution, as well, and the feds are apparently happy to collaborate with the pusher as long as he helped put effective lawmen behind bars.

What exactly is their crime? In the words of Assistant U.S. Attorney Debra Kanof, “It is a violation of Border Patrol regulations to go after someone who is fleeing.”

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Nevertheless, this August a jury in Texas convicted the two of assault with serious bodily injury, assault with a deadly weapon, discharge of a firearm in relation to a crime of violence, violating the “civil rights” of an illegal alien, and obstruction of justice “for not reporting that their weapons had been fired.”

spray_and_pray wrote:

Create a big concrete barb wired wall all the way around the US and place a few laser turrets. Thats what id do if I were president. Spr@y_@nd_pr@y president for 2008.

You helped design the Berlin wall i gather? Wonderful construct that.

Keep sliding towards Fascim. GJ GG.

usmarine2007 wrote:

klassekock wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Can someone explain to me why the US government doesn't care about the porous southern border? Because it really puzzles me.

I think the U.S needs all those illegal immigrants to do all the shitty jobs that normal people wouldn't even dream of taking.

A common answer but completely wrong.  They do not do jobs Americans won't do, the employers would rather pay someone very little money and no health care than pay an American.

Well, my wife is Mexican nad her brothers are in this country illegally. They all work as electricians and make VERY good money. So, don't tell me they all take jobs that Americans won't do.

ATG wrote:

It is a violation of Border Patrol regulations to go after someone who is fleeing.”

will somebody please put me out of my misery.

Wow, that sucks.

However, since they did fail to report a pretty serious incident, they should receive some kind of punishment. This was a bit overzealous, though.

ATG wrote:

It is a violation of Border Patrol regulations to go after someone who is fleeing.”

will somebody please put me out of my misery.

I presume the logic is that if they're fleeing you've successfully prevented border crossing.  Not that I agree with it..................

Having said that, a person whose job it is to enforce rules must follow the rules, no matter how stupid they must be.  And it's not even that regulation that they were primarily in trouble for.  But then, you wouldn't actually want to look at the facts, would you ATG.

Yes.

For a law enforcement officer to fire a weapon and then attempt to hide the incident (which, based in what I've seen, is primarily what they were charged with) is totally unacceptable.  Further, you are misrepresenting the case by implying that the primary issue was the shooting.

Bubbalo wrote:

Yes.

For a law enforcement officer to fire a weapon and then attempt to hide the incident (which, based in what I've seen, is primarily what they were charged with) is totally unacceptable.  Further, you are misrepresenting the case by implying that the primary issue was the shooting.

I never did any such thing.
I presented the case with links.
I said failure to enforce the border is treasonous.
WTF are you talking about?

I never mentioned any of that in my OP. I did ask people to support them.


Me verses you is like like the typical American democrat verses Bush; committed to be against anything I'm for.for

arguing for the sake of arguing...  you are an a**hat... lol