Get a grip.
It's simple, no one (not even the Americans) watch MLS. Beckham goes there and the MLS will start to be followed (or LA Galaxy will anyway) especially by in East Asia (They love him over there). I reckon it's more about getting the World to watch MLS than to get Americans to like football (or Saaarcaaar as you call it).
If you want to talk Sports Stars on ridiculous wages just check out any top American Footballer or Basketballer, they get waaaaaaaaay more than Becks could ever dream of.
To the OP, you may not know who he is so are confused but would you be if Michael Jordon moved abroad and demanded high wages (a few years ago obviously)?
If you want to talk Sports Stars on ridiculous wages just check out any top American Footballer or Basketballer, they get waaaaaaaaay more than Becks could ever dream of.
To the OP, you may not know who he is so are confused but would you be if Michael Jordon moved abroad and demanded high wages (a few years ago obviously)?
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cablecopulate wrote:
Soccer/football/whatever you call it sucks.
American football/girls in padding/whatever you call it sucks.usmarine2007 wrote:
cablecopulate wrote:
Soccer/football/whatever you call it sucks.
Not for me any more either. They've put the English flag next to his name as well instead of the Union Jack that was there before.Kmarion wrote:
Huh?.. not for me.Bertster7 wrote:
Actually he's down as a notable former player. Why is that?
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At least I don't have to hear people jabber about how wonderful he is. And it might do his ego some good to be in a country where people don't bum him everywhere he goes.
lol, I know who he is. Your Marketing ideology has serious flaws. Do you expect millions of Beckham fans to move to the United States and start buying tickets? Those other pro Athletes stay in their market. Please show me an athlete getting waaaay more like you said.=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:
It's simple, no one (not even the Americans) watch MLS. Beckham goes there and the MLS will start to be followed (or LA Galaxy will anyway) especially by in East Asia (They love him over there). I reckon it's more about getting the World to watch MLS than to get Americans to like football (or Saaarcaaar as you call it).
If you want to talk Sports Stars on ridiculous wages just check out any top American Footballer or Basketballer, they get waaaaaaaaay more than Becks could ever dream of.
To the OP, you may not know who he is so are confused but would you be if Michael Jordon moved abroad and demanded high wages (a few years ago obviously)?
Maybe, but we are talking economics. The NFL generates over 6 Billion USD in revenue.cablecopulate wrote:
Soccer/football/whatever you call it sucks.
I don't think our MLS is ready to take on that.
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About double the revenue the Premiership make. Which is odd, considering the Premiership is the most watched sporting league in the world by a big margin (nearly 1.5 billion supporters). Says something about how commercial US sports are if they can manage such big revenues off such small audiences.Kmarion wrote:
Maybe, but we are talking economics. The NFL generates over 6 Billion USD in revenue.cablecopulate wrote:
Soccer/football/whatever you call it sucks.
I don't think our MLS is ready to take on that.
Maybe if the tickets werent so costly for the NFL? Not to mention it consist of only 16 games..lolBertster7 wrote:
About double the revenue the Premiership make. Which is odd, considering the Premiership is the most watched sporting league in the world by a big margin (nearly 1.5 billion supporters). Says something about how commercial US sports are if they can manage such big revenues off such small audiences.Kmarion wrote:
Maybe, but we are talking economics. The NFL generates over 6 Billion USD in revenue.cablecopulate wrote:
Soccer/football/whatever you call it sucks.
I don't think our MLS is ready to take on that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sp … ce_figures
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Its the haircuts that make him so valuable!!
Extremely good footballer in his prime, probably the best at his position in the world. But he's not so good now.
The LA team I guess is hopping his glamor will attract people to games and fill stadiums. Think his missus pulls the strings. He moved from England to Spain so she could be closer to designer shops and probably because rival supporters used to chant, "posh is a slapper" etc during the games.
She's bought every piece of clothing in Milan now its off to LA's shops to continue. He's just another bitched slapped male.
Extremely good footballer in his prime, probably the best at his position in the world. But he's not so good now.
The LA team I guess is hopping his glamor will attract people to games and fill stadiums. Think his missus pulls the strings. He moved from England to Spain so she could be closer to designer shops and probably because rival supporters used to chant, "posh is a slapper" etc during the games.
She's bought every piece of clothing in Milan now its off to LA's shops to continue. He's just another bitched slapped male.
I think they are both great sports! But there is one thing I dont get. Why do you call your American Football by the name of football in the first place? The ball part I get, but why the foot? Its not like they play the ball with their feet? Atleast most of the time its more like handball/throwball something.Vilham wrote:
American football/girls in padding/whatever you call it sucks.usmarine2007 wrote:
cablecopulate wrote:
Soccer/football/whatever you call it sucks.
European football (=soccer) is the real football. You use your feet to play the ball, hence the name!
A lot of games are won by field goals = feet. A lot of games are won by field postion and special teams = feet.SpaceApollyon wrote:
I think they are both great sports! But there is one thing I dont get. Why do you call your American Football by the name of football in the first place? The ball part I get, but why the foot? Its not like they play the ball with their feet? Atleast most of the time its more like handball/throwball something.Vilham wrote:
American football/girls in padding/whatever you call it sucks.usmarine2007 wrote:
European football (=soccer) is the real football. You use your feet to play the ball, hence the name!
The word football comes from the fact that it is played on foot, as opposed to played on horseback, like polo. It is not a reference to it being played with the feet.SpaceApollyon wrote:
I think they are both great sports! But there is one thing I dont get. Why do you call your American Football by the name of football in the first place? The ball part I get, but why the foot? Its not like they play the ball with their feet? Atleast most of the time its more like handball/throwball something.Vilham wrote:
American football/girls in padding/whatever you call it sucks.usmarine2007 wrote:
European football (=soccer) is the real football. You use your feet to play the ball, hence the name!
That begs the question why Polo isn't called Horseball?Bertster7 wrote:
The word football comes from the fact that it is played on foot, as opposed to played on horseback, like polo. It is not a reference to it being played with the feet.SpaceApollyon wrote:
I think they are both great sports! But there is one thing I dont get. Why do you call your American Football by the name of football in the first place? The ball part I get, but why the foot? Its not like they play the ball with their feet? Atleast most of the time its more like handball/throwball something.Vilham wrote:
American football/girls in padding/whatever you call it sucks.
European football (=soccer) is the real football. You use your feet to play the ball, hence the name!
From Etymology.com
"football
the open-air game, first recorded 1409; forbidden in a Scottish statute of 1424. The first reference to the ball itself is 1486. Figurative sense of "something idly kicked around" is first recorded 1532. Ball-kicking games date back to the Roman legions, at least, but the sport seems to have risen to a national obsession in England, c.1630. Rules first regularized at Cambridge, 1848; soccer (q.v.) split off in 1863. The U.S. style (known to some in England as "stop-start rugby with padding") evolved gradually 19c.; the first true collegiate game is considered to have been played Nov. 6, 1869, between Princeton and Rutgers, at Rutgers, but the rules there were more like soccer. A rematch at Princeton Nov. 13, with the home team's rules, was true U.S. football. The earliest recorded application of the word football to this is from 1881."
In other words, a "soccer-ish" game became a "rugby-ish" game and then evolved in the states as a "grid-ironish" game. Over time all three have become their own respected disciplines.....
P.S The actual names for all three include the word 'football'
Soccer - Association Football
Rugby - Rugby Football
American football - Gridiron Football
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With all due respect sir, this is 2007. With the likes of sattelite television and the internet a country's boundries mean little when it comes to marketing nowadays. I watch La Liga (Spanish Football) every Sunday and follow it on the web during dull hours at work. I don't live there but it doesn't mean I cann't invest my time and money. How many pairs of Air Jordans do you think Nike sold in the UK? I can still remember dreaming about a pair of those as a child.Kmarion wrote:
lol, I know who he is. Your Marketing ideology has serious flaws. Do you expect millions of Beckham fans to move to the United States and start buying tickets? Those other pro Athletes stay in their market. Please show me an athlete getting waaaay more like you said.
The clearest example of the "Becks affect" is his last move to Madrid from Manchester United. Shirt sales of Madrid shirts rocketed and I'm not just talking in Spain where he was playing. In Asia (where he has NEVER played) they love him and just the sheer population there make Becks a marketing dream. Read this piece of next I found which explain better than I....
"Manchester United's reign at the top of the football world's financial table is over. According to the latest rankings compiled by accounting firm Deloitte, Real Madrid and its galaxy of stars has overtaken Man U with revenue of 186 million pounds compared to the Reds 166.4 million. That was accomplished despite Real Madrid's substantially lower ticket prices.
So, how just did the Galacticos do it, with lower ticket prices than are prevalent in the Premiership and a string of disappointing seasons on the field? One answer lies in the recognition that it possessed something with which you can make market and with which you can help others make money; in short, the brand. Real Madrid, more than any other soccer club in the world has recognized the importance of the brand and has grasped the ability to market in a way not seen anywhere else in the soccer world.
What turbo-boosted sales for Real Madrid however was clearly not winning championships as the past three seasons have seen some of their results on the pitch in many years. No, it was the fusion of the powerful Real Madrid brand with an equally powerful one - soccer's true global superstar David Beckham, or as some refer to him, Mr. Posh. What Real's management foresaw better than Beckham's former employer's Manchester United, that a merger of Real's brand with Beckham would add enormous value and enable them to negotiate far bigger sponsorships once Beckham was wearing the Real jersey.
In fact, shirts sales skyrocketed after Beckham signed, and his shirt outsells the rest of the team combined, but that is not where the real money is. His greatest impact was felt in the price of the name on the front of the shirt and the names that adorn the stadium and sponsor the team. The price being paid by Real's major corporate sponsors Siemens, Audi and addidas has dramatically increased since Becks was acquired and it is that revenue and the careful and skilled cultivation and marketing of the Real brand that has led Real to the table of the financial table. Now, as the sponsorship contracts are coming up for renewal, it will be helpful for Real to start winning some games for a change. Marketing can only work miracles for so long. At some point, the product has to be as good as the brand."
Estenban dont get angry with Kmarion, he doesnt realise that outside of America, football is the largest sport in the world. He thinks the world series is played by other countries than the USA and a handful of others thereby making a mockery of "world".
Depends what you call largest sport. The NFL is the single most profitable sporting league, unless I'm mistaken.Vilham wrote:
Estenban dont get angry with Kmarion, he doesnt realise that outside of America, football is the largest sport in the world. He thinks the world series is played by other countries than the USA and a handful of others thereby making a mockery of "world".
Football does have the largest fanbase by absolutely miles though.
Exactly it has the largest fan base. Thus being the largest followed sport in the world. We dont care as much about the money because we arent office bigwigs.
I still don't get why the team bothers. Men's soccer is the 10th most popular sport (9th if you merge college and pro football) in this country. It's a European thing.
"I didn't even know LA had a soccer team." -Jay Leno
"I didn't even know LA had a soccer team." -Jay Leno
It's not a European thing.DesertFox423 wrote:
I still don't get why the team bothers. Men's soccer is the 10th most popular sport (9th if you merge college and pro football) in this country. It's a European thing.
"I didn't even know LA had a soccer team." -Jay Leno
It's a European, Asian, African and South American thing. That's the vast majority of the world.
That's a big market to make money from. They're probably hoping to try to raise the profile of football in the US so they can get in on the largest sports market in the world.
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And it should stay there. I rarely watch sports, but soccer (football for you) is about as exciting as watching paint dry.Bertster7 wrote:
It's not a European thing.DesertFox423 wrote:
I still don't get why the team bothers. Men's soccer is the 10th most popular sport (9th if you merge college and pro football) in this country. It's a European thing.
"I didn't even know LA had a soccer team." -Jay Leno
It's a European, Asian, African and South American thing. That's the vast majority of the world.
Some of you need to accept the fact that this forum is in America, and the majority of the people are Americans. Soccer is what this Beckham or whatever plays and football is the other sport. Don't like it? I am sure there are forums in Europe or wherever.
And where exactly did the imperial powers of Europe colonize? That would be the reason for its spread.Bertster7 wrote:
It's not a European thing.DesertFox423 wrote:
I still don't get why the team bothers. Men's soccer is the 10th most popular sport (9th if you merge college and pro football) in this country. It's a European thing.
"I didn't even know LA had a soccer team." -Jay Leno
It's a European, Asian, African and South American thing. That's the vast majority of the world.
Actually probably the majority of users on this forum are from countries outside of the US.
I would like to see the stats on that. But it is an American forum. The founder is from Frisco I believe.Vilham wrote:
Actually probably the majority of users on this forum are from countries outside of the US.