No. Game over.
Poll
Do you believe in afterlife:
| Yes, there is more to it than just the world we can see | 54% | 54% - 148 | ||||
| No, once you die its Game Over. You cease to exist. | 45% | 45% - 125 | ||||
| Total: 273 | ||||||
I'd like to believe that there's something after death because this way this world is made seems all too complex to of happened coincidentally; yet there's no scientific proof so I'm going to have to say no.
Science > Religion
Science > Religion
There is no evidence to suggest otherwise but let me hit you with some Einstein, "I do not think that it is necessarily the case that science and religion are natural opposites. In fact, I think that there is a very close connection between the two. Further, I think that science without religion is lame and, conversely, that religion without science is blind. Both are important and should work hand-in-hand."King_Vegeta wrote:
I'd like to believe that there's something after death because this way this world is made seems all too complex to of happened coincidentally; yet there's no scientific proof so I'm going to have to say no.
Science > Religion
Yes, I hope there is...if not I'm gonna try my hardest to be invinsible
There's been no scientific proof for many things until they've happened.
I fail to see why some atheists work so hard to make apostates out of religious folks. It's not as if they're going to save us from anything after death. And don't give me the "to stop war" BS because humans are quite capable of being violent and deceitful without the help of god(s).
I fail to see why some atheists work so hard to make apostates out of religious folks. It's not as if they're going to save us from anything after death. And don't give me the "to stop war" BS because humans are quite capable of being violent and deceitful without the help of god(s).
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CameronPoe wrote:
Wormfood.
You clearly didn't watch the video because if you did, you'd have seen the discussion about the quote you "boldified" earlier. The 'infinite amount of monkeys' mantra displays the nature of infinity and thus my reply referenced your post precisely.ghettoperson wrote:
=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:
The Internet disproved the nature of infinity? Hmmm, yeah OK are you Karl Pilkington?ghettoperson wrote:
Actually, the Internet disproved that theory.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQBlZIXu3Yg (forward to 10 mins 10 secs in.....although the whole thing is hilarious)You appear to have missed what I boldified, so I'll highlight it for you.ghettoperson wrote:
Actually, the Internet disproved that theory.=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:
Sorry but this one of the biggest misconceptions, usually made by creationists. The theory that evolution involves 'chance', coincidences and accidents. Evolution never mentions any of those words, it HAD to happen. In other words there was a 100% chance of it happening and there are no coincidences. Eventually atoms will grow, mix and mutate, it isn't chance it's nature. People talk about the Earth saying stuff like coincidence as if we have something else to compare it to. If it didn't happen then we would be here to realise it and conversely if it have happened differently we could live in a World of peace and infinite lifespans.
"Give an infinite amount of monkeys and infinite amount of typewriters and they'll type the complete works of Shakespeare"
I don't believe in any sort of reincarnation or existence in a heaven or hell. I think that thought is very old and tired. However, I can rest assured knowing that I (nor ANYONE for that matter) can prove or disprove life after death or any concept of heaven/hell, despite what people in this thread and people in real life attest to. I refuse to accept the idea that people have crossed that border, or "Seen the white light" as it is so often described, as a means to prove the idea of a life after death.
I do believe that there is an energy force that separates living things and nonliving things. When we die, this energy is transferred to the universe as a whole. It just dissipates. The worms soak it up, the plants nearby, any living thing. Sort of like osmosis, or high/low pressure, it just leaves the former living body and moves to other living things.
I do believe that there is an energy force that separates living things and nonliving things. When we die, this energy is transferred to the universe as a whole. It just dissipates. The worms soak it up, the plants nearby, any living thing. Sort of like osmosis, or high/low pressure, it just leaves the former living body and moves to other living things.
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Anyone of us could drop dead at any moment. Carrer, children, family, movies, money, beer, jokes, etc, can all end in a second. Would that be it, the end of it all? Life would be meaningless if that were true, at least to me.
And I say this entirely indiferent of religion.
And I say this entirely indiferent of religion.
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"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them."
Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
I disagree. No after life would make all that stuff more important.EVieira wrote:
Anyone of us could drop dead at any moment. Carrer, children, family, movies, money, beer, jokes, etc, can all end in a second. Would that be it, the end of it all? Life would be meaningless if that were true, at least to me.
And I say this entirely indiferent of religion.
I agree. Without the possibility or belief in an afterlife, it makes this existence that much more important to enjoy before it ends...usmarine2007 wrote:
I disagree. No after life would make all that stuff more important.EVieira wrote:
Anyone of us could drop dead at any moment. Carrer, children, family, movies, money, beer, jokes, etc, can all end in a second. Would that be it, the end of it all? Life would be meaningless if that were true, at least to me.
And I say this entirely indiferent of religion.
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Believing in afterlife does not diminish the enjoyment of this one. But the meaning of life itself looses some significance when theres nothing else to it after this life. Instead of being something more, it becomes just the everyday things we enjoy. Although thats a lot to be grateful for, there has to be more to life than just this material world.Turquoise wrote:
I agree. Without the possibility or belief in an afterlife, it makes this existence that much more important to enjoy before it ends...usmarine2007 wrote:
I disagree. No after life would make all that stuff more important.EVieira wrote:
Anyone of us could drop dead at any moment. Carrer, children, family, movies, money, beer, jokes, etc, can all end in a second. Would that be it, the end of it all? Life would be meaningless if that were true, at least to me.
And I say this entirely indiferent of religion.
"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them."
Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
For many people, there is without having any faith to speak of. Posterity... Making sure future generations (especially your own children) can live free and healthy lives is a secular way of finding meaning in this life.EVieira wrote:
Believing in afterlife does not diminish the enjoyment of this one. But the meaning of life itself looses some significance when theres nothing else to it after this life. Instead of being something more, it becomes just the everyday things we enjoy. Although thats a lot to be grateful for, there has to be more to life than just this material world.Turquoise wrote:
I agree. Without the possibility or belief in an afterlife, it makes this existence that much more important to enjoy before it ends...usmarine2007 wrote:
I disagree. No after life would make all that stuff more important.
Your lights go off and thats it.Each other debates are to take fear of death.Thats folks.You die and no respawn everywhere trust me its simpel but i know thats fact.
Eventually we'll all know the truth... . About half the people who voted will be right, the other half is in for a surprise. Hopefully a good one.
"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them."
Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
What meaning of life?EVieira wrote:
Believing in afterlife does not diminish the enjoyment of this one. But the meaning of life itself looses some significance when theres nothing else to it after this life. Instead of being something more, it becomes just the everyday things we enjoy.
Personally I think the meaning of life is to successfully pass on your genes so that part of your genetic code will continue to exist into future generations.
Why would or how could anyone come to the logical, fact-based, rational conclusion that there is an afterlife? Baffling.
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There is no logical conclusion, its a belief. And the belief of the majority of the ones who voted so far.CameronPoe wrote:
Why would or how could anyone come to the logical, fact-based, rational conclusion that there is an afterlife? Baffling.
What's baffling is how some people seem to know the absolute truth over something that can't be prooved neither way...
"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them."
Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
It's the principle of Occam's Razor. Something does not exist until proven otherwise. The burden of proof is on believers, not disbelievers.EVieira wrote:
There is no logical conclusion, its a belief. And the belief of the majority of the ones who voted so far.CameronPoe wrote:
Why would or how could anyone come to the logical, fact-based, rational conclusion that there is an afterlife? Baffling.
What's baffling is how some people seem to know the absolute truth over something that can't be prooved neither way...
Granted, this principle was actually devised by a monk.... lol
I ask you to disprove the nonexistence of such a thing using your oh so loved logic.CameronPoe wrote:
Why would or how could anyone come to the logical, fact-based, rational conclusion that there is an afterlife? Baffling.
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And I ask you to disprove the existence of Santa and the Tooth Fairy.DesertFox423 wrote:
I ask you to disprove the nonexistence of such a thing.CameronPoe wrote:
Why would or how could anyone come to the logical, fact-based, rational conclusion that there is an afterlife? Baffling.
Hey, if you believe in them good for you. Make a thread about them if you want to debate it. Better yet, make a poll on it. But I have a feeling its going to be a bit one-sided, unlike the one on this thread.Bertster7 wrote:
And I ask you to disprove the existence of Santa and the Tooth Fairy.DesertFox423 wrote:
I ask you to disprove the nonexistence of such a thing.CameronPoe wrote:
Why would or how could anyone come to the logical, fact-based, rational conclusion that there is an afterlife? Baffling.
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"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them."
Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
No.DesertFox423 wrote:
You saw my Christmas thread, didn't you?Bertster7 wrote:
And I ask you to disprove the existence of Santa and the Tooth Fairy.DesertFox423 wrote:
I ask you to disprove the nonexistence of such a thing.
*edit*
Did you disprove the existence of Santa and the Tooth Fairy?
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Oops. Sorry.DesertFox423 wrote:
You asked me to disprove it.Bertster7 wrote:
No.DesertFox423 wrote:
You saw my Christmas thread, didn't you?
Did you prove the existence of Santa and the Tooth Fairy?
I meant did you disprove the existence of Santa and the Tooth Fairy?
But he does it in the special time continuum created especially for Christmas. Haven't you ever read the Hogfather?