Poll

Do you believe in afterlife:

Yes, there is more to it than just the world we can see54%54% - 148
No, once you die its Game Over. You cease to exist.45%45% - 125
Total: 273
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6739|Northern California

acidkiller187 wrote:

What is a SOUL then?
A soul is the combination of a spirit and a body.

For example, my spirit (which in very gross, restricted terminolgoy) was something created by God.  It is eternal, and never dies.  When my parents made my body, it received that spirit making the two parts one "soul."  Upon death, i will not be a living soul anymore..my spirit will continue to the next world, the body will remain in the ground until I am resurrected..in which case, the spirit will reunite with my body into an eternal soul since that body will not ever die.  This is also known as immortality.  Yes, these are Christian principles (for some Christian sects).
=OBS= EstebanRey
Member
+256|6798|Oxford, England, UK, EU, Earth

Bell wrote:

Not so much arogance, as it is a teaching, if not a 'promise' within the bible (somewhere in the back , its in there though) then again since it was written by men we cant completly take it overboard.  Still, I find it hard to imagen that we are all hear by complete accident or random chain of events that took place without there being a begining to it, and perhaps this begining isnt what many religious types (myself included) have been lead to belive, but it all has to start somewhere.  To bad neither argument really can be justifed/proven, to say its beyond human comprehension is no more silly than saying God made the earth in six days.

Martyn
Sorry but this one of the biggest misconceptions, usually made by creationists.  The theory that evolution involves 'chance', coincidences and accidents.  Evolution never mentions any of those words, it HAD to happen.  In other words there was a 100% chance of it happening and there are no coincidences.  Eventually atoms will grow, mix and mutate, it isn't chance it's nature.  People talk about the Earth saying stuff like coincidence as if we have something else to compare it to.  If it didn't happen then we would be here to realise it and conversely if it have happened differently we could live in a World of peace and infinite lifespans.   

"Give an infinite amount of monkeys and infinate amount of typewriters and they'll type the complete works of Shakespare"
=OBS= EstebanRey
Member
+256|6798|Oxford, England, UK, EU, Earth

IRONCHEF wrote:

acidkiller187 wrote:

What is a SOUL then?
A soul is the combination of a spirit and a body.

For example, my spirit (which in very gross, restricted terminolgoy) was something created by God.  It is eternal, and never dies.  When my parents made my body, it received that spirit making the two parts one "soul."  Upon death, i will not be a living soul anymore..my spirit will continue to the next world, the body will remain in the ground until I am resurrected..in which case, the spirit will reunite with my body into an eternal soul since that body will not ever die.  This is also known as immortality.  Yes, these are Christian principles (for some Christian sects).
I can't imagine how scared of never waking up you must be to have to belive that.  I admit the thought of death isn't pleasant but once you've come to terms with it, you'll find you enjoy your one life a whole lot more.
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6739|Northern California

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

IRONCHEF wrote:

acidkiller187 wrote:

What is a SOUL then?
A soul is the combination of a spirit and a body.

For example, my spirit (which in very gross, restricted terminolgoy) was something created by God.  It is eternal, and never dies.  When my parents made my body, it received that spirit making the two parts one "soul."  Upon death, i will not be a living soul anymore..my spirit will continue to the next world, the body will remain in the ground until I am resurrected..in which case, the spirit will reunite with my body into an eternal soul since that body will not ever die.  This is also known as immortality.  Yes, these are Christian principles (for some Christian sects).
I can't imagine how scared of never waking up you must be to have to belive that.  I admit the thought of death isn't pleasant but once you've come to terms with it, you'll find you enjoy your one life a whole lot more.
You lost me (like your post 2 up from this one did).  You think I'm scared of dying or something?  Wouldn't you gather from what I said (obviously firmly knowing what happens at birth, death, and resurrection) that I'm quite comfortable with it?  Because I am.  And when loved ones die, I'm comforted while the rest of the world goes psycho, wears black for a week, and cries not knowing jack.  lol  I'm no comedian at a funeral, but geeze..its quite sad when people ask the age old questions to themselves..."is there something after this life?"
Shadow893
lel
+75|6940|England
I nul voted - i don't know what there is when you die - maybe it is the very end ' game over '
or you come back or walk the earth - no idea
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6803

acidkiller187 wrote:

What is a SOUL then?
Isn't it a type of fish?
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6897

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

Bell wrote:

Not so much arogance, as it is a teaching, if not a 'promise' within the bible (somewhere in the back , its in there though) then again since it was written by men we cant completly take it overboard.  Still, I find it hard to imagen that we are all hear by complete accident or random chain of events that took place without there being a begining to it, and perhaps this begining isnt what many religious types (myself included) have been lead to belive, but it all has to start somewhere.  To bad neither argument really can be justifed/proven, to say its beyond human comprehension is no more silly than saying God made the earth in six days.

Martyn
Sorry but this one of the biggest misconceptions, usually made by creationists.  The theory that evolution involves 'chance', coincidences and accidents.  Evolution never mentions any of those words, it HAD to happen.  In other words there was a 100% chance of it happening and there are no coincidences.  Eventually atoms will grow, mix and mutate, it isn't chance it's nature.  People talk about the Earth saying stuff like coincidence as if we have something else to compare it to.  If it didn't happen then we would be here to realise it and conversely if it have happened differently we could live in a World of peace and infinite lifespans.   

"Give an infinite amount of monkeys and infinate amount of typewriters and they'll type the complete works of Shakespare"
Actually, the internet disproved that theory.
heggs
Spamalamadingdong
+581|6636|New York
i'd like to think there is, but i have a very hard time believing it. the human brain is a very amazing thing...
Remember Me As A Time Of Day
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6741|Connecticut
no respawning as another kit in real life.
Malloy must go
=OBS= EstebanRey
Member
+256|6798|Oxford, England, UK, EU, Earth

ghettoperson wrote:

Actually, the internet disproved that theory.
The internet disproved the nature of infinity?  Hmmm, yeah OK are you Karl Pilkington?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQBlZIXu3Yg  (forward to 10 mins 10 secs in.....although the whole thing is hilarious)

Last edited by =OBS= EstebanRey (2007-01-09 16:10:09)

DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|6933|United States of America

CameronPoe wrote:

acidkiller187 wrote:

What is a SOUL then?
Isn't it a type of fish?
Just because it can swim doesn't make it a fish.

"When you sneeze, that's your soul trying to escape. Saying 'God bless you' crams it back in."

"It's just something made up to scare kids like the boogeyman or Michael Jackson."

"What if you die in a submarine?"
"Oh it can swim. It's even got wheels in case you die in the desert and it has to drive to the cemetary."
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7014|Cambridge (UK)
Null Vote. Not sure.

Personally, I'd like to haunt the internet... hmm... maybe upload... cyberpunk style...

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2007-01-09 17:17:46)

BigmacK
Back from the Dead.
+628|6999|Chicago.
I believe in an afterlife. Why you may ask? Because there is good in this world.
The Bartenders Son
Member
+42|6941|online
If there is another life after this... im going to be pissed! i paid my dues i want my rest..
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6693|The Land of Scott Walker

Bertster7 wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

You all know I believe in the afterlife. 

Concept of the afterlife is arrogant?  I'd agree if we gained a good afterlife by work we do ourselves.  However, that is not the case with Christianity because salvation isn't gained by good works.
That's not at all what I meant.

It's hard to explain without writing loads and loads, which I can't be bothered to do at the moment. By arrogance I meant the assertion that people are special and that there is meaning to everything. Nothing to do with individuals, but the human race as a whole.
Ah, so you mean something like we humans are insignificant and have no reason to live beyond this earth?

edited for spelling

Last edited by Stingray24 (2007-01-09 21:02:55)

Deadmonkiefart
Floccinaucinihilipilificator
+177|6954
Yo
(Yes+No=Yo)

-Sorry that was the stupidest post I have ever made

Last edited by Deadmonkiefart (2007-01-09 21:31:27)

BVC
Member
+325|6944
I'd like to, but no I don't
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6829|SE London

Stingray24 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

You all know I believe in the afterlife. 

Concept of the afterlife is arrogant?  I'd agree if we gained a good afterlife by work we do ourselves.  However, that is not the case with Christianity because salvation isn't gained by good works.
That's not at all what I meant.

It's hard to explain without writing loads and loads, which I can't be bothered to do at the moment. By arrogance I meant the assertion that people are special and that there is meaning to everything. Nothing to do with individuals, but the human race as a whole.
Ah, so you mean something like we humans are insignificant and have no reason to live beyond this earth?

edited for spelling
Yeah, along those lines anyway.
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,054|6871|Little Bentcock
Well I hope that I would go somewhere after, I don't know if non-believers would understand my feelings but when I die I don't want it to be the end, even if there isn't, it keeps me un-afraid of death.
EVieira
Member
+105|6726|Lutenblaag, Molvania

Mogura wrote:

snuten_i_sjoholmen wrote:

we will go to Valhall and drink lots of mead and eat a big fat pig every day.
you need to be  a great warrior for that ;-)
Does BF2 count? If so, then I'm even more screwed...

Well, so far 60% believe in after life and 40% don't believe, with a total of 135 votes.

Last edited by EVieira (2007-01-10 06:29:00)

"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered;  the point is to discover them."
Galileo Galilei  (1564-1642)
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6897

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

Actually, the internet disproved that theory.
The internet disproved the nature of infinity?  Hmmm, yeah OK are you Karl Pilkington?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQBlZIXu3Yg  (forward to 10 mins 10 secs in.....although the whole thing is hilarious)

ghettoperson wrote:

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

Bell wrote:

Not so much arogance, as it is a teaching, if not a 'promise' within the bible (somewhere in the back , its in there though) then again since it was written by men we cant completly take it overboard.  Still, I find it hard to imagen that we are all hear by complete accident or random chain of events that took place without there being a begining to it, and perhaps this begining isnt what many religious types (myself included) have been lead to belive, but it all has to start somewhere.  To bad neither argument really can be justifed/proven, to say its beyond human comprehension is no more silly than saying God made the earth in six days.

Martyn
Sorry but this one of the biggest misconceptions, usually made by creationists.  The theory that evolution involves 'chance', coincidences and accidents.  Evolution never mentions any of those words, it HAD to happen.  In other words there was a 100% chance of it happening and there are no coincidences.  Eventually atoms will grow, mix and mutate, it isn't chance it's nature.  People talk about the Earth saying stuff like coincidence as if we have something else to compare it to.  If it didn't happen then we would be here to realise it and conversely if it have happened differently we could live in a World of peace and infinite lifespans.   

"Give an infinite amount of monkeys and infinate amount of typewriters and they'll type the complete works of Shakespare"
Actually, the internet disproved that theory.
You appear to have missed what I boldified, so I'll highlight it for you.
oug
Calmer than you are.
+380|6767|Πάϊ

acidkiller187 wrote:

What is a SOUL then?
In my opinion, a soul is the aggregation of our memories as the latter are stored in our brain. I think that the quality of a person's character is directly linked to his understanding of all that surrounds him.

This "understanding" must be of multiple levels, some of which we are probably not yet aware of, given that science has only managed to unveil but a fraction of our brain's capabilities, and also bearing in mind the fact that we only use about 30% of it.

As for the after life, two words: worm food.

edit: CP beat me to it 2nd post and didnt see it dammit

Last edited by oug (2007-01-10 16:17:40)

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Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7014|UK

Bell wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Wormfood.
Steel cofin FTW!!!  Or whatever keeps those mofos out, I am actually thinkin I would probably get buiried with a mobile phone JUST incase, know it sounds weird but the Idea of being trapped in there IF alive scares the shit out of me.  Heard stories about the apparnt near death/ or that story about the woman who twitched while laying in the coffin to be found alive.......  My luck is theres no credit

Martyn
Thats where the "Graveyard shift" came from. Victorians were terrified of being buried alive so had crazy ass inventions to make signals to show they were alive in the coffin. Therefore someone at night would patrol the graveyard looking for these signs, be it bell on a sting being pulled. Thus the graveyard shift... Just thought i would give a little lesson there.
jonsimon
Member
+224|6743
killed dead
GATOR591957
Member
+84|6875

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

Yes is winning?!?!? There are some very dissolutioned people on these forums...

Firstly I'd like to point out the title of this post.  It's "afterlife" but many of you are talking about reincarnation.  The after life is any existence after death including heaven and hell, ghosts etc  Reincarnation is being reborn as another person or living thing. 

They're both as ludicrous as each other though.  If you believe in Ghosts I'd advise you stop watching second rate horror movies and read a few books by Derren Brown; here proving that mediums are faking (and thus not talking to the dead)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G18NfN76bAs

If you believe in heaven and hell then after seeking psychiatric help, realize that the notion is nothing but an ancient 'carrot & stick' placebo.

As for reincarnation, think about it!  There would have to be exactly the same number of living organisms on the planet at all times.  How has the population grown unless every baby is unique?  The only explanation you can give is you go to heaven and hell and then we're back to the above.....
What you see as delusional is others enlightenment.

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