BF2S Forums Mk-19, too powerful for this game?

RasorX wrote:

shspunkrockr wrote:

RasorX wrote:

WRONG WRONG WRONG!

Unless of course you dont know the definition of semi and full automatic.

The MK19 40mm machine gun, MOD 3 is an air-cooled, disintegrating metallic link-belt fed, blowback operated, fully automatic weapon and is crew transportable over short distances with limited amounts of ammunition. It can fire a variety of 40mm grenades. The M430 HEDP 40mm grenade will pierce armor up to 2 inches thick, and will produce fragments to kill personnel within 5 meters and wound personnel within 15 meters of the point of impact. Associated components are: MK64 Cradle Mount, MOD 5; M3 Tripod Mount; and the AN/TVS-5 Night Vision Sight. The MK19 also mounts in the up-gunned weapons station of the LVTP7A1 model of the AAV and vehicle ring mounts.

i'm in the fucking Army and i HAVE fired Mark-19s before, they are not fully auto...u cant hold down the butterflies and pump out a bunch of rounds, it is SEMI AUTO

I was in the fucking Marine Corps and you must be a retard, because you can.  Look up the Mk-19 on any armament website, it's full auto pal.  Why would you have a 130+ lbs crew served weapon to fire the same rounds/rate of fire as a 203?  Maybe you didnt realize you could hold the trigger down, but you can.  Actually here is the US Army website where it says it's fully auto:
http://www.army.mil/fact_files_site/mk19-3/


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You'll never get me!!!!! MUAHAHAHAH

I've used it in all nova games DF2, BHD/TS, JO/JOE. And it can be a devestating weapon once you learn to use it but also easy to take out. Also even if it was fixed it would still present problems. Alls you would have to do is go into a empty server with a friend and practice and let use karkland for example. if the weaponw worked the way it does in real with practice you could be bombing any on the map within your fireing arc. More so if it was mounted on a humvee you go to the farther point you can aim and practice you could bery easily be blow targets up from behind the mec base from the USMC base or vica versa. It overheats ofcourse though.

it would be devestating when used properly and since they don't put the arming distance onto the m203/gp30, ect then why would they put it on this? that right there meens as long as you don't blow up your own vehicle you can take anyone out until they get enough damage on oyur humvee or someone who is a good shot pops you off before you see them.

I would love to see it in the game, but i would hate seeing all the bitching/moaning/whining it would bring.

Also the mk would not stan up very well against armor in real life but in a game if you can keep fireing before the tank spots you or circle it without it hitting you then oyu could very well take out a tank. If you notice hand grenades and GLs do do damage to tanks in agem albeit not much but if you could fire a large volume of them you could take out anything and thus the mk would be able. As to aircraft it would not be too hard to hit helos with it with practice but jets would be pure luck probably unless they were hovering.

Yes and the weapons looks like a modifies steyr whatever the number is with some kind of mounted grenaded launcher and looks like lazer marking scope.

nOOb-tube is too good of a name for the Mk-19
I would like see a the 1,000,000 RPM metal storm type ACP
Its more like a noob wall then tube

RasorX wrote:

shspunkrockr wrote:

RasorX wrote:

WRONG WRONG WRONG!

Unless of course you dont know the definition of semi and full automatic.

The MK19 40mm machine gun, MOD 3 is an air-cooled, disintegrating metallic link-belt fed, blowback operated, fully automatic weapon and is crew transportable over short distances with limited amounts of ammunition. It can fire a variety of 40mm grenades. The M430 HEDP 40mm grenade will pierce armor up to 2 inches thick, and will produce fragments to kill personnel within 5 meters and wound personnel within 15 meters of the point of impact. Associated components are: MK64 Cradle Mount, MOD 5; M3 Tripod Mount; and the AN/TVS-5 Night Vision Sight. The MK19 also mounts in the up-gunned weapons station of the LVTP7A1 model of the AAV and vehicle ring mounts.

i'm in the fucking Army and i HAVE fired Mark-19s before, they are not fully auto...u cant hold down the butterflies and pump out a bunch of rounds, it is SEMI AUTO

I was in the fucking Marine Corps and you must be a retard, because you can.  Look up the Mk-19 on any armament website, it's full auto pal.  Why would you have a 130+ lbs crew served weapon to fire the same rounds/rate of fire as a 203?  Maybe you didnt realize you could hold the trigger down, but you can.  Actually here is the US Army website where it says it's fully auto:
http://www.army.mil/fact_files_site/mk19-3/


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RasorX is mostly right.

Mk 19 IS fully auto (which is why it goes through a box of ammo so fast).

But, where he is wrong is that It does not use the same round as the 203.  Can't remember if the 203 does as much damage as Mk 19 (it might), but it doesn't even have half the range (I think the effective range of the 203 is around 300m, compared to 1800 --that's almost TWO KM-- on the Mk 19).  Whatever you do NEVER try to fire a Mk 19 rnd from your M203.

This is many months of use in combat (in addition to plenty of range time) speaking...granted you don't know me from Adam, but trust me, I do have more than average experience with this weapon.

FYI I'm Army, so I wouldn't side with a Jarhead against a soldier unless he were spot on correct ;-)

Edit:  I wouldn't bet my life on HEDP rounds going through 2 inches of armor (neverthelss, it is fairly impressive explosion - It's really cool watching 5 or 6 rounds impact a klick away and then hearing the *bangs* a second later!)

Last edited by whittsend (2005-12-02 08:38:37)

Maj.Do wrote:

the GL isnt a noob tube if u dont keep using it  : ) i hardly use it.  only shot it 2 times. lol       the idea of the MK-19 will cause alot of spawn rapping.   drive up to a spawn and start shooting like hell.

They do that with APCs and Tanks already, although if it was mounted as crew served. You could shoot back.

Kung Jew wrote:

Ahh (sigh) for some trigger time on that puppy......

Yes it is a fun weapon to use, we used a clay hut for target practice in Iraq, completely destroyed it, but the gun is not very practicle in urban invironments because of collateral damage. As far as that goes the M2 is also a great weapon, and very accurate. While going up through the ranks I was always told that if you could see it you could hit it with the .50 cal.

RasorX wrote:

shspunkrockr wrote:

RasorX wrote:

WRONG WRONG WRONG!

Unless of course you dont know the definition of semi and full automatic.

The MK19 40mm machine gun, MOD 3 is an air-cooled, disintegrating metallic link-belt fed, blowback operated, fully automatic weapon and is crew transportable over short distances with limited amounts of ammunition. It can fire a variety of 40mm grenades. The M430 HEDP 40mm grenade will pierce armor up to 2 inches thick, and will produce fragments to kill personnel within 5 meters and wound personnel within 15 meters of the point of impact. Associated components are: MK64 Cradle Mount, MOD 5; M3 Tripod Mount; and the AN/TVS-5 Night Vision Sight. The MK19 also mounts in the up-gunned weapons station of the LVTP7A1 model of the AAV and vehicle ring mounts.

i'm in the fucking Army and i HAVE fired Mark-19s before, they are not fully auto...u cant hold down the butterflies and pump out a bunch of rounds, it is SEMI AUTO

I was in the fucking Marine Corps and you must be a retard, because you can.  Look up the Mk-19 on any armament website, it's full auto pal.  Why would you have a 130+ lbs crew served weapon to fire the same rounds/rate of fire as a 203?  Maybe you didnt realize you could hold the trigger down, but you can.  Actually here is the US Army website where it says it's fully auto:
http://www.army.mil/fact_files_site/mk19-3/


Suck it

Hehe - I love the wording on that page

"Deter, and if necessary, compel adversaries....."

Compel?! Yeah - big time!!!