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2007-01-08 18:28:59
FrankieSpankie3388
Hockey Nut
+243|6786|Boston, MA
I'm insulting you for voicing your opinion when it just outright criticizes other people. If you didn't want to be a prick, you could've just said something like "The AK-101 is awesome, I'd prefer it over the G36e." But no, you have to go out and criticize people who do use that gun, constantly calling it a "noob gun."

And who the fuck gives anything about skill? That's what's killing the online gaming world. All anybody does is complain about somebody who's using a "skill-less" tactic. So what? In the end, one person wins the fight. You move on to the next target. You can't win them all. Stop having a competition and have a little bit of fun and then you don't care what you get killed by.
2007-01-08 21:15:43
arnica
Member
+18|6935|Sydney

san4 wrote:

[b]Which gun damages enemies fastest?
A fkn big gun
2007-01-08 21:23:18
~FuzZz~
.yag era uoy fi siht deaR
+422|6578|Orrstrayleea
Hmmmm, im suprised that the scar-l is so low on the list, its like my third favoutite gun
2007-01-08 21:25:10
Deadmonkiefart
Floccinaucinihilipilificator
+177|6961
Sorry but that information is kind of useless.
2007-01-08 21:52:36
psH
Banned
+217|6639|Sydney

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

The G36C was incredibly good until it was nerfed
The G36C was nerfed? NOO!..NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *melts into floor*

MY Spec-ops whoring will be never seen again! NOO!!!!!!!

Anywho, apparently the G36C has an extremely high rate of fire according to the little information given on it in BFHQ. But if your looking for rate o' fire, look no more than the P90 or MP7, i mean i can waste a P90 clip in like 3 seconds.

/exaggerate
2007-01-08 22:17:04
MetalChont
Member
+18|6804|Sydney, Australia
OK, on the G36e argument:

I am probably better than you.  In fact I'd say I AM better than you.  Yet, for some stupid reason, your usage of the G36e allows you to beat me constantly.
2007-01-08 22:57:33
gene_pool
Banned
+519|6877|Gold coast, Aus.

FrankieSpankie3388 wrote:

So let me get this straight, if I use a gun that's too powerful and too accurate? I'm a noob. Wow! Great analysis!
Yes, it is.


Now fuck off.



Nice chart, but for it too be completely accurate you need to include accuracy (lol?)  Which is sort of impossible because of the random deviation of guns.


But still, nice job, +1
2007-01-08 23:21:32
slicknic
Member
+145|6881
*throws a log in the fire*

g36e = noob gun = lazer gun.  now if u truly didnt think this was true.. it wouldnt bug you.. but it is true, and you know it.
2007-01-08 23:31:07
-[Silver.Inc*
BF2s AU Server Admin
+315|6836|Melbourne, Australia.

gene_pool wrote:

FrankieSpankie3388 wrote:

So let me get this straight, if I use a gun that's too powerful and too accurate? I'm a noob. Wow! Great analysis!
Yes, it is.


Now fuck off.
2007-01-09 00:32:36
DaVeWaVe
Sponsored by Ready Brek... The Nation's Favourite
+7|6917|Farmland, England
you could have your monitor turned off and have parkinsons disease and still kill stuff with the g36e :p
2007-01-09 06:07:57
FrankieSpankie3388
Hockey Nut
+243|6786|Boston, MA

gene_pool wrote:

FrankieSpankie3388 wrote:

So let me get this straight, if I use a gun that's too powerful and too accurate? I'm a noob. Wow! Great analysis!
Yes, it is.


Now fuck off.
Fine, then you could die, while I'll just kill you... Like I said earlier, the problem with the gaming community isn't all these tkers and hackers and shit, it's competitive fucks like you. You can't just play the game without complaining about dying a certain way.
2007-01-09 07:21:04
The_Jester
Member
+52|6746|Italy

Zulu_Soldier wrote:

Ill tell you why its a noob gun, becuase anybody can use, it takes so little skill to use in comparison to the M16.
Ok, all usmc medics who pick up ak's from dead enemies are noobs then, because they don't use their stock weapon.
Nice logic there.
And nodoby is answering to a simple fact: in cqb the ak is superior, it requires less skill. At long ranges its the opposite.


The real reason of this unlock-hate is very simple: no unlocks in clan matches. If unlocks were allowed in official clan battles, I'm sure this debate wouldn't ever have existed. Clan players have their reasons not to use unlocks, but that's it. Do you need training for your clan battles? Nice, its your choice.
But to all the divas trying to look pro with this unlock bullcrap: get over it. Your average pubber, as I said before, doesn't give a fuck about clan wars and their rules. Unlocks are a part of the game. Period.

And the most pathetic thing: if only noobs use the g36e, you pros out there shouldn't have a problem dealing with them. Or maybe you are not SO pro?

And no, I don't use the g36, because I don't like it. I don't give a fuck about other people's opinion about the weapons I'm using.
2007-01-09 17:05:50
DaVeWaVe
Sponsored by Ready Brek... The Nation's Favourite
+7|6917|Farmland, England

The_Jester wrote:

Zulu_Soldier wrote:

Ill tell you why its a noob gun, becuase anybody can use, it takes so little skill to use in comparison to the M16.
Ok, all usmc medics who pick up ak's from dead enemies are noobs then, because they don't use their stock weapon.
Nice logic there.
And nodoby is answering to a simple fact: in cqb the ak is superior, it requires less skill. At long ranges its the opposite.


The real reason of this unlock-hate is very simple: no unlocks in clan matches. If unlocks were allowed in official clan battles, I'm sure this debate wouldn't ever have existed. Clan players have their reasons not to use unlocks, but that's it. Do you need training for your clan battles? Nice, its your choice.
But to all the divas trying to look pro with this unlock bullcrap: get over it. Your average pubber, as I said before, doesn't give a fuck about clan wars and their rules. Unlocks are a part of the game. Period.

And the most pathetic thing: if only noobs use the g36e, you pros out there shouldn't have a problem dealing with them. Or maybe you are not SO pro?

And no, I don't use the g36, because I don't like it. I don't give a fuck about other people's opinion about the weapons I'm using.
There is a reason why unlocks are not allowed in clan matches as such. Mainly because it throws kit selection off balance. You would have silly set ups such as med's with g36e's and at's with DAO-12's, all those are unbalanced compared to the default kits, making competitive play in bf2 fairly dull to watch and even play.
I guess what i'm trying to say is, "pro" players tend to get a little miffed since most inexperienced players will go for the easy option to "keep up" with the experienced players, and it rubs off some players pretty badly if they get owned by an unlock and the said noob starts to flame.

I have no problem with public play since you could do what you want, also i tend to have very little difficulty taking out a varity of players, with default weapons or unlocks. ;p
2007-01-09 17:13:11
DaVeWaVe
Sponsored by Ready Brek... The Nation's Favourite
+7|6917|Farmland, England

التعريفات wrote:

AK-101 just seems to me the most balanced assault rifle when considering both accuracy and damage, thats why I always use it when I have the chance. The G36E and the M16A2 are also very similar, but in the end, the G36 comes out on the top. And no, the g36E is not a "noob" gun, fuck you.
Agreeable with the exception of the M16 and g36E comparison. The g36e requires little to no recoil compensation scoped or unscoped, whereas the m16 requires somewhat more due to the higher deviation. Essentially, 2 well placed 3 shot bursts can kill a full health target with the g36e and with very little effort, where as the m16 you can have the odd lucky headshot, but so can the g36e .
Also, yes the g36e is powerful, but nothings more powerful than good teamwork, tactics and positioning. :p
2007-01-09 17:20:28
A-Unit64
King Medic......
+23|7096
Yeah the gun does matter but knowing where they are.
2007-01-09 17:50:02
FrankieSpankie3388
Hockey Nut
+243|6786|Boston, MA

The_Jester wrote:

Zulu_Soldier wrote:

Ill tell you why its a noob gun, becuase anybody can use, it takes so little skill to use in comparison to the M16.
Ok, all usmc medics who pick up ak's from dead enemies are noobs then, because they don't use their stock weapon.
Nice logic there.
And nodoby is answering to a simple fact: in cqb the ak is superior, it requires less skill. At long ranges its the opposite.


The real reason of this unlock-hate is very simple: no unlocks in clan matches. If unlocks were allowed in official clan battles, I'm sure this debate wouldn't ever have existed. Clan players have their reasons not to use unlocks, but that's it. Do you need training for your clan battles? Nice, its your choice.
But to all the divas trying to look pro with this unlock bullcrap: get over it. Your average pubber, as I said before, doesn't give a fuck about clan wars and their rules. Unlocks are a part of the game. Period.

And the most pathetic thing: if only noobs use the g36e, you pros out there shouldn't have a problem dealing with them. Or maybe you are not SO pro?

And no, I don't use the g36, because I don't like it. I don't give a fuck about other people's opinion about the weapons I'm using.
That's basically what I was trying to say in a nicer tone. I'm just sick of people who hate other people's playing styles. If they want to use the unlocks, let them, just because they use unlocks doesn't automatically make you better than them. Same with me, I prefer the AK-101 over the G36e, but I'm just sick of people saying stupid shit that doesn't even make sense like "the G36e is a noob gun." There's no such thing as a noob gun!
2007-01-10 03:17:15
AH1Z SOCOM GHOST
Member
+32|6899|Minnesota
Why dont i see the 20mm on there?
2007-01-10 06:33:54
DaVeWaVe
Sponsored by Ready Brek... The Nation's Favourite
+7|6917|Farmland, England
i would also like to add that the g36e is in fact a "noob gun" , everywhere and anywhere regardless of the situation :p.

Last edited by DaVeWaVe (2007-01-10 06:35:50)

2007-01-10 08:07:17
petropete
Member
+13|6662|Texas

FrankieSpankie3388 wrote:

I.M.I Militant wrote:

FrankieSpankie3388 wrote:

How is that correct? Somebody please explain to me how the G36e is a noob gun, I really want to know!!!
its way to overpowerd... way to accuret specially at long range 1 burst to the head cya later if not the newbs just click like crazy an it dishes out 6 bullets in under 1 second.. its pathetic
So let me get this straight, if I use a gun that's too powerful and too accurate? I'm a noob. Wow! Great analysis! I think I'm never going to use a gun that is better than the other guns just so I can be called good! What the fuck? Are you high? You're basically saying, it's a better gun, but if you use it, you suck. I can kill just as good with one gun over the other. I don't see why I would be called a noob because I prefer one gun over the other. What about calling people who use the AK-101 in Karkand a noob? Seriously, last time I played Karkand I was MEC as medic with the AK-101. I was first on the server and I remember having 50+ points when the next closest person had 20ish. I was 20-3. You know how easy it is to kill with the AK-101? I'm way too sick of this bullshit, "if you use this gun you're a noob." By that logic everybody should be waiting in line at Wake Island to be able to drive one of the only two NJ 2046s because that is by far the worst vehicle in the game imo. And as we all know, you're a noob if you use the best items you have at your disposal.

Oh ya, and uhh, I don't know if you noticed this, but 1 shot to the head with ANY gun is a fucking kill. Oh wait, but I know what you're going to say, "but the g36e has better accuracy." Whoop-dee-fucking-doo. I'm not going to go out and use a fucking pea shooter just to prove how good I am. Why don't you ask snipers t snipe with pistols instead of sniper rifles because sniper rifles are too accurate!? None of this post makes any sense and I will hate anybody who hates others who use unlocks. Especially when they can't even come up with a decent excuse for hating unlocks!!!

And then this post:

Slickfish wrote:

The G36E is a point and click weapon it just hits targets, I dont like it very much, however if im having a tough round I will use it to get a decent K/D ratio.

Maybe its just my style of play but I find it easy to point and click, 2-3 bursts, targets dead, thats without careful aim and with a moving target. Yeah it doesn't always work, but as a rule I find it alot easier to kill with the G36E, and seem to be killed most by it as well.

If you put the time into aiming it then its silly. For that reason I dont use it. Theres not so much fun in knowing you owned someone because you have a better rifle.
Yeah, apparently you shouldn't use the G36e unless you are sucking too bad. How about you use it all the time so you will absolutely rape the other team? I guess people just don't enjoy killing people in a war game...
Amen, awesome post +1 for you...

Being a noob is a relative thing...  if you have 50K and have put 300 hours into the game and go against somebody that has 200K points with 1000 hours then aren't you a noob on the eyes of  the higher ranked player?   

If a specific gun makes me a noob and then so be it.  I'd prefer to kill 10 more people a round with a noob gun and be called a noob than have my pride and believe that the only reason that I dont rack up points is my shitty non-noob gun.

Last edited by petropete (2007-01-11 13:26:06)

2007-01-10 10:17:05
xintegrityx
set your body ablaze
+37|6984|Louisiana
I wouldn't go so far as to call the G36E a "noob gun," but I have to roll my eyes when I get killed by it. It is imbalanced and it takes less skill to use than any other assault rifle. The logical thing would be to use the gun myself since it's so good, but I pride myself on doing well with the basic rifles - if I can beat someone who's using a better gun than me, that's all the more testament to my skill. I don't play in clans or anything so it's really not necessary for me; I guess it's a sort of self-handicapping.
2007-01-10 10:49:06
gbr.hitman
Fair Play!
+21|6856|Warwickshire, England
so all unlocks are noob guns? lol   that is one of the most retarded statements I here about BF2. It's stupid and doesn't make any sense. This is a war game and you are supposed to kill the enemy, and using a better weapon to do so doesn't make you a noob, it means you're clever.

I personally prefer the AK101 over the G36e and I find the AK101 is easier to use, so does that make me a noob too because I use a weapon I am better with?

It's like saying if you use the J10 you are a noob because it takes no skill, you should use the F35.
2007-01-10 13:30:11
ionescualex
Member
+12|6877
The only time I will EVER use the AK-101 over the G36E is if I absolutely KNOW I'm headed straight for CQB and even then most of the time I regret not having the G36E for medium/long range.

G36E=ezpk GG
2007-01-10 16:38:07
11sog_raider
a gaurdian of life
+112|6714|behind my rifle
where the knife
2007-01-10 16:43:03
Towelly
It's A State Of Mind
+399|6846|Your attic

11sog_raider wrote:

where the knife
Well how long does it take to swing it 3-4 times into an enemy while the hit detection makes its mind up?
2007-01-10 19:13:46
Mr.Dooomed
Find your center.
+752|6583

I just skipped 4 pages of this, but here is a question. What weapon is MOST accurate standing up and straffing hmmmmm? Pistol?? I don't know.
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