Which is why we should put them on a ship in the middle of the sea, place them at the end of the plank with a cheetah between them and the inside of the ship. If they fall in the water and cannot swim to safety a thousand miles away (hey, God made the oceans so big) they drown and we never touched them. In the spirit of Ricky Bobby, I say we name the cheetah Karen.d4rkst4r wrote:
no, death penalty is wrong. no one should be able to "do gods job".
Actually I'd be more worried about the noose around my neck than the people shouting insults or hurling rotten tomatoes.=KOKS=BETREZHEN wrote:
If you are about to die, would you want someone to be insulting and degrading you?
Tell that to the MURDERER!!d4rkst4r wrote:
no, death penalty is wrong. no one should be able to "do gods job".
It was a cougar.deeznutz1245 wrote:
In the spirit of Ricky Bobby, I say we name the cheetah Karen.
God Dammit you are right. Well cheetahs can be named Karen too, and can be just as angry.Mouse315 wrote:
It was a cougar.deeznutz1245 wrote:
In the spirit of Ricky Bobby, I say we name the cheetah Karen.
Now now Lowing, dont do Gods work. I dont want to have to become a flaming leftist to save your life when you go on death row. And I surely dont want to pay your cable bill for your cell while you appeal your sentence for 15 + years.lowing wrote:
I swear ta God, All of this self righteous, liberal, KUMBAYA, lets not punish him, lets educate him and rehabilitate him bullshit, makes me wanna kill somebody........................
As long as the gym stays open until late, along with the cafeteria, and the library I am a bit of a night owl and I like to snack late at night after my work out, and cuddle up to a good book, after I watch some HBO and Showtime. It is after all,when they show all the nudity. I am sure I would get lonely in between my conjugal visits with my wife. There would still be plenty of time left to reflect on my crimes though, in between morning breakfast, and my hot shower I would think.deeznutz1245 wrote:
Now now Lowing, dont do Gods work. I dont want to have to become a flaming leftist to save your life when you go on death row. And I surely dont want to pay your cable bill for your cell while you appeal your sentence for 15 + years.lowing wrote:
I swear ta God, All of this self righteous, liberal, KUMBAYA, lets not punish him, lets educate him and rehabilitate him bullshit, makes me wanna kill somebody........................
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I agree that they must be punished. I don't agree with execution but I certainly don't agree with treating them like errant children - they need to pay for their crime.lowing wrote:
I swear ta God, All of this self righteous, liberal, KUMBAYA, lets not punish him, lets educate him and rehabilitate him bullshit, makes me wanna kill somebody........................
Hell yeah it works, 3 squares a day, a roof over my head, nothing to do but exercise, read, eat, watch TV......................oh yeah, and uhhhhhhhhh reflect on my life.........forgot about that one.deeznutz1245 wrote:
Sounds like good ol' rehabilitation to me!
Well lets see, we can't kill them, and if they get so much as cold coffee in the morning some liberal asshole lawyer out there will be screaming on his behalf CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT.... Probably from the ACLU.CameronPoe wrote:
I agree that they must be punished. I don't agree with execution but I certainly don't agree with treating them like errant children - they need to pay for their crime.lowing wrote:
I swear ta God, All of this self righteous, liberal, KUMBAYA, lets not punish him, lets educate him and rehabilitate him bullshit, makes me wanna kill somebody........................
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That is true... but punishing murder with murder is hypocritical.cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Saves a lot on your tax dollars.aardfrith wrote:
Why is it that people like the death sentence, want to be able to use lethal force to defend themselves or whatever but get ants in their pants when someone who's about to die is abused a little?
In places around the world, the death sentence is a legal form of punishment whereby someone that has been tried and convicted of a major crime (multiple murders, genocide, etc.) has their life terminated. In parts of America there is wrangling going on about whether lethal injection is acceptable because the convict may suffer a bit. In Iraq, there's consternation because Saddam Hussein was heckled whilst on the gallows.
So what? At the end of the day, the person is a convicted criminal and is being put to death. It's not supposed to be a pleasure cruise, it's a punishment. The ultimate punishment.
Some of them get deleted without notice lately. I understand closing them, but last night we had a global warming discussion that went on for 5 pages before it just disappeared.Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:
This was discussed like two weeks ago. The search function works.
I don't get why admins close some threads and not others.
They black-bagged the topic, just like in V for Vendetta =oKmarion wrote:
Some of them get deleted without notice lately. I understand closing them, but last night we had a global warming discussion that went on for 5 pages before it just disappeared.Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:
This was discussed like two weeks ago. The search function works.
I don't get why admins close some threads and not others.
Nope, because the "murderer" got what his victim didn't, a chance, a day in court, and due process. All that is left is for someone to speak for the victim that can no longer speak for themself. That victim deserves justice, revenge, vengance, payback.whatever you wanna call it. The victim has EARNED it.RedTwizzler wrote:
An observation: It seems like most of the supporters of the death sentence say that they would kill whoever murdered their family. Does that not mean that you would be guilty of murder, and subjected to the death sentence? Food for thought.
You have a point, though that seems like a romanticized vision of the American justice system. There are many mistakes made in court, and many guilty men walk free while innocent men sit behind bars, or worse. Recently in Chicago (where I live) there was a man who faced the death penalty and was killed in the early 70s. He was pardoned posthumously for his crimes. How much is that worth to him? How much is that worth to the family?lowing wrote:
Nope, because the "murderer" got what his victim didn't, a chance, a day in court, and due process. All that is left is for someone to speak for the victim that can no longer speak for themself. That victim deserves justice, revenge, vengance, payback.whatever you wanna call it. The victim has EARNED it.RedTwizzler wrote:
An observation: It seems like most of the supporters of the death sentence say that they would kill whoever murdered their family. Does that not mean that you would be guilty of murder, and subjected to the death sentence? Food for thought.
You are very very correct. I think when it is all done and said, we have to bow to the fact that there is no system that is perfect. Our system does not take CP lightly, which is why it takes 10, 15, 20 years or better to go through the appeals process. As forensics technology improves I think there will be less chance of the innocent sent to prison. As it is, we hold to a very strict standard as far as who is sent to death row. A credit to our vigilance to strive for perfection in this issue.RedTwizzler wrote:
You have a point, though that seems like a romanticized vision of the American justice system. There are many mistakes made in court, and many guilty men walk free while innocent men sit behind bars, or worse. Recently in Chicago (where I live) there was a man who faced the death penalty and was killed in the early 70s. He was pardoned posthumously for his crimes. How much is that worth to him? How much is that worth to the family?lowing wrote:
Nope, because the "murderer" got what his victim didn't, a chance, a day in court, and due process. All that is left is for someone to speak for the victim that can no longer speak for themself. That victim deserves justice, revenge, vengeance, payback.whatever you wanna call it. The victim has EARNED it.RedTwizzler wrote:
An observation: It seems like most of the supporters of the death sentence say that they would kill whoever murdered their family. Does that not mean that you would be guilty of murder, and subjected to the death sentence? Food for thought.
Kinda funny, how we see eye to eye, yet totally disagree. I think that no matter how far forensics technology (or any other technology for that matter) advances, there will still be glitches. At least one person will get fucked by the system. That one person matters to me. Sure it's a miniscule statistic, but it's a life. Imagine if that one person was you. Or your father. Or your brother. Or your son. Or your wife.lowing wrote:
You are very very correct. I think when it is all done and said, we have to bow to the fact that there is no system that is perfect. Our system does not take CP lightly, which is why it takes 10, 15, 20 years or better to go through the appeals process. As forensics technology improves I think there will be less chance of the innocent sent to prison. As it is, we hold to a very strict standard as far as who is sent to death row. A credit to our vigilance to strive for perfection in this issue.RedTwizzler wrote:
You have a point, though that seems like a romanticized vision of the American justice system. There are many mistakes made in court, and many guilty men walk free while innocent men sit behind bars, or worse. Recently in Chicago (where I live) there was a man who faced the death penalty and was killed in the early 70s. He was pardoned posthumously for his crimes. How much is that worth to him? How much is that worth to the family?lowing wrote:
Nope, because the "murderer" got what his victim didn't, a chance, a day in court, and due process. All that is left is for someone to speak for the victim that can no longer speak for themself. That victim deserves justice, revenge, vengeance, payback.whatever you wanna call it. The victim has EARNED it.
What the fuck?d4rkst4r wrote:
no, death penalty is wrong. no one should be able to "do gods job".
Indulge me Cam... What punishment would you place on a person who has molested and killed a children? How would you make them pay?CameronPoe wrote:
I agree that they must be punished. I don't agree with execution but I certainly don't agree with treating them like errant children - they need to pay for their crime.lowing wrote:
I swear ta God, All of this self righteous, liberal, KUMBAYA, lets not punish him, lets educate him and rehabilitate him bullshit, makes me wanna kill somebody........................