BF2S Forums To the religious: Why do you believe in God?

CameronPoe wrote:

GATOR591957 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

I would argue otherwise. Pointless stalemate leading ultimately to an infinity of circular arguments. There is not one good reason to suggest why some higher being has a hand in anything, in my mind.

If, in any of our lives, we wandered through life without having been exposed to the concept of 'god' (especially during our formative years) there is a distinct possibility thoughts of one would never cross our minds.

I will agree to your point of endless debate.  I will never change your mind because you have already made your decision on where you stand.  I would like to point out the mathematical side to this.  Programmers need a code to program, correct.  All life has DNA, correct?  All DNA has a code, correct?  Who designed the code?  If someone designed the code,  wouldn't that make them the "creator?"

I would ask you to read "The signature of God."  It has some compelling facts.  I did not make my decision strictly on this book.  Over my lifetime I've been pondering this very question.  Through deduction and observation I have made my stance, as you will over your lifetime.

Why does there have to be a creator of DNA? Why must a creator take credit for what could very well just be the product of chemical reactions in primordial times under the conditions that existed on earth at that time? Is not our lack of understanding about where DNA originated simply another barrier we have to overcome: like believing the earth was flat? God just seems to me to be a term that gets applied to anything as yet unexplained or to get over man's difficulty in comprehending the infinite/perpetual.

Again - stalemate.

Last edited by GATOR591957 (2007-01-05 13:41:19)

Fen321 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Fen321 wrote:

You create all of it!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quantum physics says so

What part of Quantum physics says so?

The part where electrons/Nucleus the whole 9 yards acts like a wave of probability existing in MULTIPLE positions simultaneously, but when you choose to take a look at it BAM it becomes a particle in a fixed position of your liking. For the most part though I don't understand why people are still left thinking in the world of static "matter" since well there is no such thing. Not only that but these subatomic particles disappear at of existence then reappear...spooky ain't it.

Take a gander at the structure of atoms and its sub-atomic particles it is MOSTLY empty space

Drakef wrote:

GATOR591957 wrote:

instakill wrote:

Wow I did not realise that religious people are so ignorant, Not one of you godly people have said anything that is worth reading.... Everyone has the answer either "I believe cause the bible says so" "I believe because mummy and daddy said i had too" "I believe because I dont want to go to hell" or the funniest "someone i know was dying and now they are not, god must be real" (hmm maybe the doctors got it wrong?) I just find it funny, Religion is faith, and is needed by weak people who cant live through life without thinking someone is helping them through, Sure you all say it would not have happened if i did not pray, That is more ignorant than saying God does not exist. I dont have the answer I dont know, but i think their is no way "some dude" created everything here on earth. My question is What will all of you believers say if/when we find life on another planet? due to the fact the planet will not be exactly like earth, you could assume the creatures/life living there will not be like what we are. You all say it is too set up to be self made, but you can find a link to anything if you try hard enough. One more thing, you all keep stating no scientist has seen a creature change from one species to another, Funny that considering evolution takes many, many, many generations to show a huge change.... everything changes slowly, So slow that no one will ever live long wnough to see evolution in all its glory. But in saying that all the religo's will come back with some crappy comment about feeling god in their lives (im sure it was just the flu), and all the non believers will debate back about the bible being fake.... IMO religion=gullability+weakness

Tell you what, since you're so smart, why don't you tell us the origin of life?

Tell us your reasons why the Bible is fake.  I think you just haven't taken the time or energy to thoroughly look at the question and analyze the facts.  Come back when you have something constructive to say.  Anyone can flame.

Simply because we truly don't understand the universe is not proof of the Bible being true. What we cannot explain does not automatically become a supernatural explaination. We will understand it one day. But for now, it becomes an unknown.

GATOR591957 wrote:

My answer would be, what in this world has been made without a creator?  Toasters, washing machines, automobiles, someone invented or discovered everything.  Nothing just happened out of the blue.

I would agree to your assessment of the overuse of "God."

BALTINS wrote:

GATOR591957 wrote:

My answer would be, what in this world has been made without a creator?  Toasters, washing machines, automobiles, someone invented or discovered everything.  Nothing just happened out of the blue.

I would agree to your assessment of the overuse of "God."

Of course not, but define God.

I just can't believe that a anthropomorphic intelligent what-so-ever created man. If you say god is, for example, some sort of massive energy field that led to the big bang, okay, that would be fine with me.

GATOR591957 wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

GATOR591957 wrote:

what in this world has been made without a creator?

The world itself (is just one example).

Proof?

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2007-01-05 14:03:49)

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

Why are the people that are anti god...higher power... always so angry and bitter?   Couldnt you just accept that some people find happiness and solace in their faith and beliefs...    Dont equate living your life incongruently and expecting happiness with the belief that there is no God...  peace to all...

DesertFox423 wrote:

instakill wrote:

DesertFox423 wrote:

I don't believe you can be taken seriously if in your first sentence you call the opinion that you yourself do not hold ignorant.

wow, now lets put together a sentence that is understandable

How is it not?

Religion=WAR wrote:

I believe God is in each and every one of us, and it is up to us to discover the potential, and unlock the abilities of a "God".  Let's say a man could live a 100% completely sin free life; and educated himself about everything on the planet.  If that man could do this, he would probably have developed his brain a lot more than anyone else on the planet.  The average human uses 11% to 18% of their brain.  This is not a lot but still amazingly enough, equal to an 11 million gigabyte computer.  We can't even speculate as to what a computer of this caliber could be capable of.
     There are people on the planet that have developed certain aspects of their brain to a point. ie: Shaolin monks, speed readers, surgeons, pro-athletes, etc., and have god-like abilities in their field, and more than likely, use a higher percentage of a certain part of their brain. If we could use 50 or 80% maybe we could walk on water, turn water to wine, levitate, read minds, etc, etc, etc.
     My point is, I believe in God, but not your typical God, but an internal one.  We can not base beliefs on theory, as it only results in argument.  No one knows the real truth, it is our history, and we can't go back in time.(yet!), so to base your life on circumstantial evidence and theology is the same as believing there is no God.
I also believe we have already been here and beyond, on a technological level anyway, and have made all the same mistakes we are making now. Curios? Prob not. Karma me if you agree pls. I NEED KARMA! Don't know why! And write about other topics if you care, or want to. Peace

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2007-01-05 17:22:39)

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

Religion=WAR wrote:

I believe God is in each and every one of us, and it is up to us to discover the potential, and unlock the abilities of a "God".  Let's say a man could live a 100% completely sin free life; and educated himself about everything on the planet.  If that man could do this, he would probably have developed his brain a lot more than anyone else on the planet.  The average human uses 11% to 18% of their brain.  This is not a lot but still amazingly enough, equal to an 11 million gigabyte computer.  We can't even speculate as to what a computer of this caliber could be capable of.
     There are people on the planet that have developed certain aspects of their brain to a point. ie: Shaolin monks, speed readers, surgeons, pro-athletes, etc., and have god-like abilities in their field, and more than likely, use a higher percentage of a certain part of their brain. If we could use 50 or 80% maybe we could walk on water, turn water to wine, levitate, read minds, etc, etc, etc.
     My point is, I believe in God, but not your typical God, but an internal one.  We can not base beliefs on theory, as it only results in argument.  No one knows the real truth, it is our history, and we can't go back in time.(yet!), so to base your life on circumstantial evidence and theology is the same as believing there is no God.
I also believe we have already been here and beyond, on a technological level anyway, and have made all the same mistakes we are making now. Curios? Prob not. Karma me if you agree pls. I NEED KARMA! Don't know why! And write about other topics if you care, or want to. Peace

The idea that we only use 10-20% of our brain is, I'm sorry to say, just plain wrong. We use all of our brain, pretty much all of the time, except when sleeping.