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2007-08-05 07:33:44
Mitch
16 more years
+877|6835|South Florida

stef10 wrote:

Mitch wrote:

God = Fairy tale for ease of understanding
Evolution = Science. For the intellegent adults who like to back up there beliefs with fact.

Ha, and they make a "Childrens Bible"... Like the real one is childish enough.
ok, then because einstein believed in god that makes him a r-tard and you a professor?

hmm
This is true.
Just a sad realization of how the religion disease spread from a joke a few 1000 years ago to a hardcore belief nowadays. :-\
15 more years! 15 more years!
2007-08-05 07:36:21
stef10
Member
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its not a disease, a disease is only bad.

while religion and idiots are like when you take anti-bus when you have alcohol in your veins.
2007-08-05 23:14:19
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6985|Canberra, AUS

stef10 wrote:

Mitch wrote:

God = Fairy tale for ease of understanding
Evolution = Science. For the intellegent adults who like to back up there beliefs with fact.

Ha, and they make a "Childrens Bible"... Like the real one is childish enough.
ok, then because einstein believed in god that makes him a r-tard and you a professor?

hmm
OK... you clearly have a poor reckoning of the facts here.

The 'God' Einstein believed him would be better described as the 'underlying simplicity and beauty of nature, a science-nature-god' rather than a deity. He rejected traditional, theistic religion when he was very young.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
2007-08-06 04:32:54
theelviscerator
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I find it harder to believe we got here by mistake, a far larger jump of faith.

Last edited by theelviscerator (2007-08-06 04:33:16)

2007-08-06 04:52:26
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6440|North Tonawanda, NY

theelviscerator wrote:

I find it harder to believe we got here by mistake, a far larger jump of faith.
Maybe it's a larger leap of faith for you, but it is a logical step for some.
2007-08-06 04:54:44
stef10
Member
+173|6792|Denmark

Spark wrote:

stef10 wrote:

Mitch wrote:

God = Fairy tale for ease of understanding
Evolution = Science. For the intellegent adults who like to back up there beliefs with fact.

Ha, and they make a "Childrens Bible"... Like the real one is childish enough.
ok, then because einstein believed in god that makes him a r-tard and you a professor?

hmm
OK... you clearly have a poor reckoning of the facts here.

The 'God' Einstein believed him would be better described as the 'underlying simplicity and beauty of nature, a science-nature-god' rather than a deity. He rejected traditional, theistic religion when he was very young.
ok, if I was you I would be careful to use the word god in what u just said as it very much speaks against what u just said.
so, sry you have a very poor understanding of the word God

and if you read a special quote in the bible which was said by God himself then you may find that the god einstein talked about and the God in the bible would very much be the same.
2007-08-06 05:06:58
Noobeater
Northern numpty
+194|6757|Boulder, CO
I think this entire planets just had incredibly good luck to be honest and seeing as how there are roughly 100 billion plents in this galaxy (at the latest estimate i read) and there are roughly 100 billion galaxies in this univers (again last estimate i read) and there are multiple parrarel universes. then it was bound to happen somewhere, like that somewhere there's probably a planet almost identical to earth where the dominant intelligent species is reptillian.

just an enormously lucky planet. Besides i find there are too many obvious contradictions in the bible like for example if gods so forgiving then why do people go to hell instead of being forgiven by god, and the 7 deadly sins i mean i've comitted, bugger all of them which makes me completely screwed especially as i'm only 16 and probably have a long life of further sinning ahead of me.

I still respect the needs of some people to have complete faith in something like religion just because many people need something to be the answer to everything.
2007-08-06 05:12:10
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6533|Escea

I always wondered where god was before someone started talking about him and writing a book, there was a few million years of history before he arrived.
2007-08-06 05:14:49
Noobeater
Northern numpty
+194|6757|Boulder, CO
I also wonder if has limited powers in any way if he does exist as if god controls this universe then are there other gods who control the parrarel ones, of course this question is based on the idea that god does exist.
2007-08-06 05:15:41
stef10
Member
+173|6792|Denmark

Noobeater wrote:

I think this entire planets just had incredibly good luck to be honest and seeing as how there are roughly 100 billion plents in this galaxy (at the latest estimate i read) and there are roughly 100 billion galaxies in this univers (again last estimate i read) and there are multiple parrarel universes. then it was bound to happen somewhere, like that somewhere there's probably a planet almost identical to earth where the dominant intelligent species is reptillian.

just an enormously lucky planet. Besides i find there are too many obvious contradictions in the bible like for example if gods so forgiving then why do people go to hell instead of being forgiven by god, and the 7 deadly sins i mean i've comitted, bugger all of them which makes me completely screwed especially as i'm only 16 and probably have a long life of further sinning ahead of me.

I still respect the needs of some people to have complete faith in something like religion just because many people need something to be the answer to everything.
ok, did the bible say that many people went to hell or was it someother like the Roman Church. Yeah God is forgiving if you are a good person and you regret but if you dont you may be fucked.
2007-08-06 09:20:48
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|6995|United States of America

schofield wrote:

big bang, simple. its fact. its science, no such thing as god. ahmen to that you bible bashing idiots
Who says? For those who like to literally interpret the Bible, Genesis proclaims that He created the Heavens and the Earth, but does not specify how. Also, it's spelled "amen."
2007-08-06 09:45:48
Phrozenbot
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DesertFox- wrote:

schofield wrote:

big bang, simple. its fact. its science, no such thing as god. ahmen to that you bible bashing idiots
Who says? For those who like to literally interpret the Bible, Genesis proclaims that He created the Heavens and the Earth, but does not specify how. Also, it's spelled "amen."
The Hebrew context suggests 6 literal days in Genesis. John 1 says God spoke the world into existence.

Last edited by Phrozenbot (2007-08-06 09:49:56)

2007-08-06 10:32:57
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
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Phrozenbot wrote:

DesertFox- wrote:

schofield wrote:

big bang, simple. its fact. its science, no such thing as god. ahmen to that you bible bashing idiots
Who says? For those who like to literally interpret the Bible, Genesis proclaims that He created the Heavens and the Earth, but does not specify how. Also, it's spelled "amen."
The Hebrew context suggests 6 literal days in Genesis. John 1 says God spoke the world into existence.
The Creation Story in the Bible/Torah was written by a man that scholars refer to as "The Priest". The Priest and the other three authors of the book of Genesis was a story teller and theologian. A person who would have more regard for religious truth (that God created the universe and gave it to Man) and making a good story than about facts based on evidence. Also you need to remember that 90% of the stories in the old testament were written between the end of the Babylonian captivity and the final fall of Israel to the Romans. Before that they were passed down orally.
2007-08-06 10:41:31
stef10
Member
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doctastrangelove1964 wrote:

Phrozenbot wrote:

DesertFox- wrote:


Who says? For those who like to literally interpret the Bible, Genesis proclaims that He created the Heavens and the Earth, but does not specify how. Also, it's spelled "amen."
The Hebrew context suggests 6 literal days in Genesis. John 1 says God spoke the world into existence.
The Creation Story in the Bible/Torah was written by a man that scholars refer to as "The Priest". The Priest and the other three authors of the book of Genesis was a story teller and theologian. A person who would have more regard for religious truth (that God created the universe and gave it to Man) and making a good story than about facts based on evidence. Also you need to remember that 90% of the stories in the old testament were written between the end of the Babylonian captivity and the final fall of Israel to the Romans. Before that they were passed down orally.
why dont you just say Moses. The bible, the torah was written by god through moses.
2007-08-06 10:48:46
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
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stef10 wrote:

doctastrangelove1964 wrote:

Phrozenbot wrote:

The Hebrew context suggests 6 literal days in Genesis. John 1 says God spoke the world into existence.
The Creation Story in the Bible/Torah was written by a man that scholars refer to as "The Priest". The Priest and the other three authors of the book of Genesis was a story teller and theologian. A person who would have more regard for religious truth (that God created the universe and gave it to Man) and making a good story than about facts based on evidence. Also you need to remember that 90% of the stories in the old testament were written between the end of the Babylonian captivity and the final fall of Israel to the Romans. Before that they were passed down orally.
why dont you just say Moses. The bible, the torah was written by god through moses.
Maybe because it wasn't.
2007-08-06 10:49:33
Havok
Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist
+302|6985|Florida, United States

stef10 wrote:

doctastrangelove1964 wrote:

Phrozenbot wrote:


The Hebrew context suggests 6 literal days in Genesis. John 1 says God spoke the world into existence.
The Creation Story in the Bible/Torah was written by a man that scholars refer to as "The Priest". The Priest and the other three authors of the book of Genesis was a story teller and theologian. A person who would have more regard for religious truth (that God created the universe and gave it to Man) and making a good story than about facts based on evidence. Also you need to remember that 90% of the stories in the old testament were written between the end of the Babylonian captivity and the final fall of Israel to the Romans. Before that they were passed down orally.
why dont you just say Moses. The bible, the torah was written by god through moses.
Umm...first off, Moses didn't write the Bible.  If my memory serves the 12 apostles did.  Moses wrote/carved the 10 commandments.  Second, Moses existed before Jesus.
2007-08-06 10:52:32
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
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Havok wrote:

Umm...first off, Moses didn't write the Bible.  If my memory serves the 12 apostles did.  Moses wrote/carved the 10 commandments.  Second, Moses existed before Jesus.
The apostles wrote parts of it. Watching some History Channel show about the Antichrist, I recall the Book of Revelation was written by John of Patmos, for example.

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2007-08-06 10:53:45
Havok
Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist
+302|6985|Florida, United States

DesertFox- wrote:

Havok wrote:

Umm...first off, Moses didn't write the Bible.  If my memory serves the 12 apostles did.  Moses wrote/carved the 10 commandments.  Second, Moses existed before Jesus.
The apostles wrote parts of it. Watching some History Channel show about the Antichrist, I recall the Book of Revelation was written by John of Patmos, for example.
I'll take your word for it.  My point is that Moses didn't write it.
2007-08-06 10:54:11
stef10
Member
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doctastrangelove1964 wrote:

stef10 wrote:

doctastrangelove1964 wrote:


The Creation Story in the Bible/Torah was written by a man that scholars refer to as "The Priest". The Priest and the other three authors of the book of Genesis was a story teller and theologian. A person who would have more regard for religious truth (that God created the universe and gave it to Man) and making a good story than about facts based on evidence. Also you need to remember that 90% of the stories in the old testament were written between the end of the Babylonian captivity and the final fall of Israel to the Romans. Before that they were passed down orally.
why dont you just say Moses. The bible, the torah was written by god through moses.
Maybe because it wasn't.
well, according to several links on google moses DID write genesis.
2007-08-06 10:55:23
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
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stef10 wrote:

doctastrangelove1964 wrote:

stef10 wrote:


why dont you just say Moses. The bible, the torah was written by god through moses.
Maybe because it wasn't.
well, according to several links on google moses DID write genesis.
But he didn't.
2007-08-06 10:56:18
stef10
Member
+173|6792|Denmark

Havok wrote:

stef10 wrote:

doctastrangelove1964 wrote:

The Creation Story in the Bible/Torah was written by a man that scholars refer to as "The Priest". The Priest and the other three authors of the book of Genesis was a story teller and theologian. A person who would have more regard for religious truth (that God created the universe and gave it to Man) and making a good story than about facts based on evidence. Also you need to remember that 90% of the stories in the old testament were written between the end of the Babylonian captivity and the final fall of Israel to the Romans. Before that they were passed down orally.
why dont you just say Moses. The bible, the torah was written by god through moses.
Umm...first off, Moses didn't write the Bible.  If my memory serves the 12 apostles did.  Moses wrote/carved the 10 commandments.  Second, Moses existed before Jesus.
yeah and it took like a month to write 10 commandments

yes moses existed before jesus, but does this make your case better since the torah told precisely that jesus would come and even gave personal details.

and wtf the commandments were already on a piece of stone which fell down from the sky.

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2007-08-06 10:57:23
Havok
Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist
+302|6985|Florida, United States

stef10 wrote:

doctastrangelove1964 wrote:

stef10 wrote:

why dont you just say Moses. The bible, the torah was written by god through moses.
Maybe because it wasn't.
well, according to several links on google moses DID write genesis.
Because we all know everything you read on the internet is true.  I request links of proof, because I'm 99% sure that you're wrong.

stef10 wrote:

and wtf the commandments were already on a piece of stone which fell down from the sky.
That is also wrong.  God supposedly carved the original 10 commandments with lightning.  Then Moses shattered the stones when he saw his people worshiping a golden bull or something.  Then he went back up on the mountain and carved them himself.

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2007-08-06 10:58:17
stef10
Member
+173|6792|Denmark

Havok wrote:

stef10 wrote:

doctastrangelove1964 wrote:


Maybe because it wasn't.
well, according to several links on google moses DID write genesis.
Because we all know everything you read on the internet is true.  I request links of proof, because I'm 99% sure that you're wrong.
type it on google.

and why should you be correct. it does not look like you have proven anything. find it on the net.
2007-08-06 11:01:25
stef10
Member
+173|6792|Denmark

Havok wrote:

stef10 wrote:

doctastrangelove1964 wrote:

Maybe because it wasn't.
well, according to several links on google moses DID write genesis.
Because we all know everything you read on the internet is true.  I request links of proof, because I'm 99% sure that you're wrong.

stef10 wrote:

and wtf the commandments were already on a piece of stone which fell down from the sky.
That is also wrong.  God supposedly carved the original 10 commandments with lightning.  Then Moses shattered the stones when he saw his people worshiping a golden bull or something.  Then he went back up on the mountain and carved them himself.
and you say that im entirely wrong, hmmm, lol

give me new info on writer?

Last edited by stef10 (2007-08-06 11:02:51)

2007-08-06 11:03:14
Havok
Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist
+302|6985|Florida, United States

stef10 wrote:

Havok wrote:

stef10 wrote:

well, according to several links on google moses DID write genesis.
Because we all know everything you read on the internet is true.  I request links of proof, because I'm 99% sure that you're wrong.

stef10 wrote:

and wtf the commandments were already on a piece of stone which fell down from the sky.
That is also wrong.  God supposedly carved the original 10 commandments with lightning.  Then Moses shattered the stones when he saw his people worshiping a golden bull or something.  Then he went back up on the mountain and carved them himself.
and you say that im entirely wrong, hmmm, lol
I say you are wrong because you are wrong.  I'm taking passages directly from the Bible which you so dearly believe.  How about you read the holy book of your religion before you try to convince others that it is the correct religion.

EDIT: I stand corrected on the Genesis chapter.  As Jewish tradition considers it to have been written by Moses, it is sometimes also called The First Book of Moses.

Last edited by Havok (2007-08-06 11:05:29)

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