I don't blame them. I think they should charge everyone in Europe twice as much if they want the software... Why?
http://news.com.com/EU+slaps+record+fin … 78281.html
http://news.com.com/EU+slaps+record+fin … 78281.html
lolwooly-back-jack wrote:
I think their way of thinking is our £ is almost twice as strong, we must be twice as rich, charge them twice as much!!
I doubt it. Vista looks like it will have much better piracy protection.wooly-back-jack wrote:
thick feckers. they'll just get twice as many pirated versions.
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As for Vista. It is quite definitely a rip off.
juts because the EU fdoes that doesn't mean we all support it.yte your retaliation punishes us all.. hmph. anyway, on-topic- yeah,it's a common tactic. helps them increase their bottom line.kilgoretrout wrote:
I don't blame them. I think they should charge everyone in Europe twice as much if they want the software... Why?
http://news.com.com/EU+slaps+record+fin … 78281.html
how tell me, tell me, heck, tell us allTitch2349 wrote:
Have fun guys.... im hopefully getting it for free (legal aswell )
It doesn't matter if everyone in Europe supports it or not. Microsoft has to recoup all that money one way or another.samfink wrote:
juts because the EU fdoes that doesn't mean we all support it.yte your retaliation punishes us all.. hmph. anyway, on-topic- yeah,it's a common tactic. helps them increase their bottom line.kilgoretrout wrote:
I don't blame them. I think they should charge everyone in Europe twice as much if they want the software... Why?
http://news.com.com/EU+slaps+record+fin … 78281.html
What is OEM, http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … =SW-041-MSBell wrote:
I just looked on a site (not amazon) and found prices much closer to the mark. All be it the UK is still paying more than our American friends but nothing like the prices in the original post. Check out www.overclockers.co.uk (yeesh I should like an advert ) and there much cheaper
Martyn
If I buy this one will it work on my PC, though my windows XP Home came with the PC I bought from DELL last year. And finally whats the difference between 32 and 64 bit
THANX
If you have a 64 bit processor, you need the 64 bit operating system. as far as will it work or not, microsoft.com probably has an easy way to test your hardware to see if you're vista ready.rabee2789b wrote:
What is OEM, http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … =SW-041-MSBell wrote:
I just looked on a site (not amazon) and found prices much closer to the mark. All be it the UK is still paying more than our American friends but nothing like the prices in the original post. Check out www.overclockers.co.uk (yeesh I should like an advert ) and there much cheaper
Martyn
If I buy this one will it work on my PC, though my windows XP Home came with the PC I bought from DELL last year. And finally whats the difference between 32 and 64 bit
THANX
thanx kilgoretrout +1 4 the help
Im sorry thats rubbish - having an application that uses over ~3Gb is about the only reason to switch to x64 right now.kilgoretrout wrote:
If you have a 64 bit processor, you need the 64 bit operating system. as far as will it work or not, microsoft.com probably has an easy way to test your hardware to see if you're vista ready.
The drivers are not mature, the platform is not in general use and if you intend to play games and have any pieces of older hardware then I would wait till you take the x64 step.
There will be a time coming where it makes sense to switch to the 64 bit path....just thats not yet for the average pc user.
As I've said elsewhere, probably the best plan at this point is to get 64bit Vista if you've got a 64bit system. But! Don't take XP off your current system - install Vista onto a second HDD/partition, then, as 64bit drivers, apps and games get released, you can gradually migrate over...
If you've only got a 32bit system, I would stick with XP - upgrade to Vista when you upgrade to 64bit.
OEM stands for Original Equipment Manufacturer. It's the version that gets shipped with new PCs - all you will get is a disk, maybe a flimsy pamphlet, but nothing else - no shiny box - but, otherwise, is exactly the same as the full, boxed, retail version. Retailers should only sell OEM software with hardware, but many will sell it by itself.
If you've only got a 32bit system, I would stick with XP - upgrade to Vista when you upgrade to 64bit.
OEM stands for Original Equipment Manufacturer. It's the version that gets shipped with new PCs - all you will get is a disk, maybe a flimsy pamphlet, but nothing else - no shiny box - but, otherwise, is exactly the same as the full, boxed, retail version. Retailers should only sell OEM software with hardware, but many will sell it by itself.
I don't agree. Newer applications and games take advantage of the additional 64-bit instructions on x86_64 chips, I am sure Crysis will for example (Farcry does already and has done since XP x64 was released). The only reason not to go for the 64-bit edition is drivers, which will be released in due course. It's not even like they're proper 64-bit CPUs anyway, it's still all just IA-32 instructions.Mad Ad wrote:
Im sorry thats rubbish - having an application that uses over ~3Gb is about the only reason to switch to x64 right now.kilgoretrout wrote:
If you have a 64 bit processor, you need the 64 bit operating system. as far as will it work or not, microsoft.com probably has an easy way to test your hardware to see if you're vista ready.
The drivers are not mature, the platform is not in general use and if you intend to play games and have any pieces of older hardware then I would wait till you take the x64 step.
There will be a time coming where it makes sense to switch to the 64 bit path....just thats not yet for the average pc user.
So, newer apps will take advantage of "the additional 64-bit instructions", but "it's still all just IA-32 instructions" - make your mind up!Bertster7 wrote:
I don't agree. Newer applications and games take advantage of the additional 64-bit instructions on x86_64 chips, I am sure Crysis will for example (Farcry does already and has done since XP x64 was released). The only reason not to go for the 64-bit edition is drivers, which will be released in due course. It's not even like they're proper 64-bit CPUs anyway, it's still all just IA-32 instructions.Mad Ad wrote:
Im sorry thats rubbish - having an application that uses over ~3Gb is about the only reason to switch to x64 right now.kilgoretrout wrote:
If you have a 64 bit processor, you need the 64 bit operating system. as far as will it work or not, microsoft.com probably has an easy way to test your hardware to see if you're vista ready.
The drivers are not mature, the platform is not in general use and if you intend to play games and have any pieces of older hardware then I would wait till you take the x64 step.
There will be a time coming where it makes sense to switch to the 64 bit path....just thats not yet for the average pc user.
but also 32bit applications benefitted from the extended register design of 64 bit, the difference today is very little...not worth the hassle imo. When crysis comes out? thats a long time yet - and driver support is growing, its getting better - change soon? maybe, just not now.
IA-32 instructions with a few extra 64-bit instructions and cleaner operation in 64-bit mode. IA-32e. It's good stuff.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
So, newer apps will take advantage of "the additional 64-bit instructions", but "it's still all just IA-32 instructions" - make your mind up!Bertster7 wrote:
I don't agree. Newer applications and games take advantage of the additional 64-bit instructions on x86_64 chips, I am sure Crysis will for example (Farcry does already and has done since XP x64 was released). The only reason not to go for the 64-bit edition is drivers, which will be released in due course. It's not even like they're proper 64-bit CPUs anyway, it's still all just IA-32 instructions.Mad Ad wrote:
Im sorry thats rubbish - having an application that uses over ~3Gb is about the only reason to switch to x64 right now.
The drivers are not mature, the platform is not in general use and if you intend to play games and have any pieces of older hardware then I would wait till you take the x64 step.
There will be a time coming where it makes sense to switch to the 64 bit path....just thats not yet for the average pc user.
Are you kidding? Everybody is getting ripped off by Vista....
Everyone always gets ripped off by Microsoft. That's what they do. C'est la vie...
Don't buy vista till about a year later. Driver support fails. I ran it and it sucks.
How would I know if my processor supports the 64 bits ?
What type (make/model) of processor is it?
Intel P4(3 GHz) with HT 531Scorpion0x17 wrote:
What type (make/model) of processor is it?
Package LGA755 ?
If I read this correctly, yes it does have 64bit extensions.rabee2789b wrote:
Intel P4(3 GHz) with HT 531Scorpion0x17 wrote:
What type (make/model) of processor is it?
Package LGA755 ?
thanx 4 the help