unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7195|PNW

I came across this somewhat wrinkled but relatively recent article just now, as I was headed out.

http://living.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1168192006

Now I have come across multiple accusations against the US (not necessarily from these forums) about its horrific education system and its untamed, undisciplined students. I've known all the time that it is a false assumption that the US is the only nation afflicted by this, but having encountered the article brought my mind back to it again, and back to similar incidences at one of the high schools I went to.

Question for discussion: what should be done about excessive tolerance for the disruptive and/or violent antics of some underage students?
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7086|USA
Call the parents and send them a packet on how exactly to raise thier children rather than let the tv and playstation do it for them.

I hear more and more that when a school admin does try to diffuse situations by going to the parental units, the parents of the little shithead will never admit thier kid is the rotten apple.

So overall, we go back to ATG's pussification of America. Both kids getting suspended for a fight etc etc. All because parents can't admit they fucked up raising the little terds.

Discipline. Leather Belt. Done.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7181|Argentina

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I came across this somewhat wrinkled but relatively recent article just now, as I was headed out.

http://living.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1168192006

Now I have come across multiple accusations against the US (not necessarily from these forums) about its horrific education system and its untamed, undisciplined students. I've known all the time that it is a false assumption that the US is the only nation afflicted by this, but having encountered the article brought my mind back to it again, and back to similar incidences at one of the high schools I went to.

Question for discussion: what should be done about excessive tolerance for the disruptive and/or violent antics of some underage students?
The parents should be punished along with the students.  If a kid of 10 is making troubles all the time, the parents are guilty too.
TeamZephyr
Maintaining My Rage Since 1975
+124|6953|Hillside, Melbourne, Australia
My mum recently did some substitute teaching at the Anglesea Primary School down on the coast. She hadn't done teaching for at least 10 years because she had a full time job at the university that she just lost.

She said she was amazed about how much punishment and discipline in schools has changed over the past 10 years. The main method of discipline at that school was to send them to the principal's office where the principal would simple question them about things like "how were you feeling when you did that" or "why do you think you did that". This sort of pussy system created a bunch of students that were (for want of a better term) cunts. One kid was even cutting himself for attention, and he's in Grade 4.

In the 2 weeks she tought there she changed the students because she actually punished them. Yelling, to keeping them in at lunch time to parent contact. And because she acted a bit tougher on the students they changed for the better.

When I went to primary school whenever we did something wrong we'd get a yelling from the principal, and by fuck did it get to us, we didn't stuff around again.

The moral of the story is you need to be tough to kids at a younger age to make them model citizens, not the stage of it becoming child abuse but to the point where the kids learn some values and not act like cunts to their teachers.

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