DivineMomentofTruth
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omg people here are so full of shit... "blah blah blah I get shots like that all the time blah bah... you'd have to suck not to pull off that fence shot". All I gotta say to you is... GET OFF YOUR FUCKN HIGH HORSE... YOUR NOT THAT GOOD. I'm sorry but as far as 64 player pub skills go, I've played with and seen the best. Some of the shots this guy attempts and even succeeds in are only feasible with a scoped sniper rifle or the L85. I wouldnt doubt it if the AK101 pulled it off either due to sheer power... the point is that in burst the g36e is GARBAGE at range. Your ability to focus the burst goes to hell at long range combat and you all know its true. When I'm talking about long range shots I'm not talking about the shots in any of the videos. Its the ones he does in the demo.  He attempts to hit a guy and unbelievably extreme range at the very beginning that I'm willing to bet is beyond his fog range. Second, he nails a full health medic from the karkand street entrance all the way down the street to the back of the hotel it self. He gets one burst on the guy and he's dead. That accuracy with the 36e is doubtful, either that or hes really lucky. The thing is you cant be lucky that many times in a round.

As far as my "best evidence" video ... no one so far has come up with a rational explanation for why pickle chooses to stand inside the building and stare through the ground when he could camp the staircase and kill spawners and people across the square. Footsteps argument fails since he spazzes out like he won the fucking lottery before the newly spawned player even moves. The sound argument also fails due to the obvious backround noise of constant nade spam going off at all times. If you had your sound loud enough to hear footsteps from a pretty far distance away, you would be DEAF from all the other loud shit that you hear on a regular basis. This isn't CS. As far as pro players checking spawns every few seconds I agree since I do this too, but the strangeness in the video wasn't that he was checking. It was the fact that he was obviously looking down and looking through walls, as well as REACTING immediately to things he could have no way of seeing. A pro player merely checking spots woudn't stare at concrete walls he would be walking straight out and straight in watching the doorway.

Last edited by DivineMomentofTruth (2006-12-23 11:16:13)

PlaneWhore
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DivineMomentofTruth wrote:

omg people here are so full of shit... "blah blah blah I get shots like that all the time blah bah... you'd have to suck not to pull off that fence shot". All I gotta say to you is... GET OFF YOUR FUCKN HIGH HORSE... YOUR NOT THAT GOOD. I'm sorry but as far as 64 player pub skills go, I've played with and seen the best. Some of the shots this guy attempts and even succeeds in are only feasible with a scoped sniper rifle or the L85. I wouldnt doubt it if the AK101 pulled it off either due to sheer power... the point is that in burst the g36e is GARBAGE at range. Your ability to focus the burst goes to hell at long range combat and you all know its true. When I'm talking about long range shots I'm not talking about the shots in any of the videos. Its the ones he does in the demo.  He attempts to hit a guy and unbelievably extreme range at the very beginning that I'm willing to bet is beyond his fog range. Second, he nails a full health medic from the karkand street entrance all the way down the street to the back of the hotel it self. He gets one burst on the guy and he's dead. That accuracy with the 36e is doubtful, either that or hes really lucky. The thing is you cant be lucky that many times in a round.

As far as my "best evidence" video ... no one so far has come up with a rational explanation for why pickle chooses to stand inside the building and stare through the ground when he could camp the staircase and kill spawners and people across the square. Footsteps argument fails since he spazzes out like he won the fucking lottery before the newly spawned player even moves. The sound argument also fails due to the obvious backround noise of constant nade spam going off at all times. If you had your sound loud enough to hear footsteps from a pretty far distance away, you would be DEAF from all the other loud shit that you hear on a regular basis. This isn't CS. As far as pro players checking spawns every few seconds I agree since I do this too, but the strangeness in the video wasn't that he was checking. It was the fact that he was obviously looking down and looking through walls, as well as REACTING immediately to things he could have no way of seeing. A pro player merely checking spots woudn't stare at concrete walls he would be walking straight out and straight in watching the doorway.
You're just hurting your argument DMT. The G36E is extremely accurate at range. I play on a 24" monitor and I can hit people with the G36E on triple burst at ranges where they only appear to be a handful of pixels on my screen. Ranges at which snipers even hav a small target.

Focus on basic facts. Tracking players perfectly in three dimensions through walls is not possible and yet pickles does that. Normal players do not automatically "snap to" a new enemy target they cannot see after killing their current target and yet pickles does that. I could go on and on but don't start hammering on the G36E accuracy because it makes you seem desperate. That gun is amazing and I know from plenty of experience that you can smoke players with that gun easily at even the most extreme ranges.

Ultimately though the only concrete proof you'll ever have is if you can get in touch with the admin who runs the lame ass server you like to play on and get him to drop a PB screenshot. I've heard they aren't 100% reliable but the 13 pages of this back and forth could've been easily avoided with one simple screenshot.
DivineMomentofTruth
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no I think my point is pretty valid... i'm not arguing you can't hit someone at extreme ranges I'm saying your odds of getting a headshot plus an additional body shot in the same burst is pretty low. I admit I havent used the 36e as extensively as most other people, but from my experience I can almost NEVER kill a person thats at extreme range with a single burst. The demos even show how spread out his bullets were at that range yet he nails him the second his aim adjusts. Maybe I just don't know how to use it and I guess I'm willing to accept that.    I guess I've just never ran into anyone that could do me out at range w/ that gun when I have an L85.

Af far as PB shots go, I'm confident that this guy probably hacks on occasion since alot of people have seen score and play like your average joe, which could mean he backed off the hacks. If he is indeed a fulltime cheater then I'm guessing hes got access to the newest most sophisticated anti PB hack. If I'm to believe his clan leader, who seems like a reasonable guy, then pickle gets PB shots on a regular basis over at their server. I'm pretty sure he gets PB shots for matches or scrims too so he can still be hiding it in some way.

Last edited by DivineMomentofTruth (2006-12-23 12:04:46)

PlaneWhore
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DivineMomentofTruth wrote:

no I think my point is pretty valid... i'm not arguing you can't hit someone at extreme ranges I'm saying your odds of getting a headshot plus an additional body shot in the same burst is pretty low. I admit I havent used the 36e as extensively as most other people, but from my experience I can almost NEVER kill a person thats at extreme range with a single burst. The demos even show how spread out his bullets were at that range yet he nails him the second his aim adjusts. Maybe I just don't know how to use it and I guess I'm willing to accept that.    I guess I've just never ran into anyone that could do me out at range w/ that gun when I have an L85.
So what exactly are you implying?

From what I've seen aimbots in Battlefield 2 aim no more accurately than a highly skilled player (unlike the aimbots in say a game like Counter-Strike). In fact if anything besides the "snap to" speed they're inferior to a real skilled player aiming because aimbots cannot compensate for the horrible hit detection in Battlefield 2.

The G36E is the best gun in the game and seeing as you're something of an assault rifle nut I'm surprised you don't know that by now. Go to an extreme range and fire off a triple burst. The spread on those rounds is extremely small and if aimed correctly that single burst is more than enough to kill. It's all a matter of luck really and it doesn't matter if it's an aimbot doing the shooting or a real player.
DivineMomentofTruth
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I guess I'm too biased towards the L85, since I believe that its the best assault rifle among unlocks and stock weapons, but your probably right. For me the L85 hits as close to the consistency of a UT or CS hitscan weapon. It takes skill to know how to use it, but its the closest thing to the classic UT sniper rifle for me.

Last edited by DivineMomentofTruth (2006-12-23 12:09:25)

gene_pool
Banned
+519|6838|Gold coast, Aus.
I'll be honest....I can do them shots (not being cocky but there not hard - nor are aimbots any good in BF2) But the fact he reacts to people he shouldn't be able to see is sort of obvious he has a wall or ESP.
DivineMomentofTruth
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+88|6658
fair enough I drop the 36e argument but we all agree the the tracking people through walls is BS
gene_pool
Banned
+519|6838|Gold coast, Aus.

DivineMomentofTruth wrote:

fair enough I drop the 36e argument but we all agree the the tracking people through walls is BS
Indeed.
reefl3x
Member
+72|6619|United States
Alright Divine, seriously end this little parade of yours, you've had the spotlight for a few days, and probably ruined pickle's reputation, now leave him alone.

I have yet to figure out why your trying so hard to get pickle's stats erased, but I still stick by my previous statment, that he owned you a couple dozen times in a pub & you got pissed off. But thats just my opinion.

And if you ever do suceed at getting his stats erased, what do you think people will think of you?
As being  the cool guy who busted a "suspected" cheater? or a snitch that nobody likes?

You've yet to present any real evidence, only a video showing nothing, so you might as well give up.

ADMIN CLOSE THIS THREAD SERIOUSLY...
Zimmer
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+1,688|6972|Scotland

14 pages of crap?
It really went on for THAT long? Wow! Congratulations, you officially took cheating one step too far.
No.
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